Roy Moore

[GannonFan]

The Sessions hearing is on right now.

Serious question...allegations notwithstanding, who's creepier, Sessions or Moore?

Jeff Sessions is one strange dude.

[GannonFan]

During the 1980s when Moore was a democrat DA: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

During the 1990s when Moore was a republican Circuit judge: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

During the 2000s (01'-04' and 12'-16') when Moore was a Chief Justice of the Bama Supreme Court: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

It's only now, when Moore has won the republican nomination to run for an open Senate seat, 35-40 years after this behavior allegedly occurred, these allegations just coincidentally happen to surface when Moore is poised to make it to the big time. Definitely doesn't pass the smell test.

This is a well orchestrated attempt by the left to gain a Senate seat. Probably going to work, too.

So you're saying this is a 40 year old long con put on by the Democrats, just knowing they could win a Senate seat in 2017? That's mighty prescient of them. Heck, if I was a conspiracy nut, I wouldn't dismiss this as a Republican smear campaign to get Moore off the ticket. If Jeff Sessions abruptly resigns as AG and comes back to Alabama to run as a write-in candidate just to "save" the seat you'll see even more conspiracy nuts come out of the woodwork.

[kalm]

This latest allegation creates a huge credibility problem for him. That story that one woman told about Moore forcing sexual contact with her now has corroboration. It is no longer an outlier and that really damages his credibility.

As I said in my first post, if Moore did it once, that means he did it more than once.

Now I suspect more accounts are going to become public.

It's this accusation that creates problems? Not the first 4?

It's a total stretch to go from a 32 year old making out with 16 year olds to the same 32 year old feeling up a 14 year old. Zero corroboration.

[BDKJMU]

During the 1980s when Moore was a democrat DA: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

During the 1990s when Moore was a republican Circuit judge: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

During the 2000s (01'-04' and 12'-16') when Moore was a Chief Justice of the Bama Supreme Court: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

It's only now, when Moore has won the republican nomination to run for an open Senate seat, 35-40 years after this behavior allegedly occurred, these allegations just coincidentally happen to surface when Moore is poised to make it to the big time. Definitely doesn't pass the smell test.

This is a well orchestrated attempt by the left to gain a Senate seat. Probably going to work, too.

So you're saying this is a 40 year old long con put on by the Democrats, just knowing they could win a Senate seat in 2017? That's mighty prescient of them. Heck, if I was a conspiracy nut, I wouldn't dismiss this as a Republican smear campaign to get Moore off the ticket. If Jeff Sessions abruptly resigns as AG and comes back to Alabama to run as a write-in candidate just to "save" the seat you'll see even more conspiracy nuts come out of the woodwork.

Why wasn't anything said during the 1980s then?
Why wasn't anything said during the 1990s then?
Why wasn't anything said during the 2000s then?

Why just happen to wait until now, right when Moore is poised to win a Senate seat?

[Ibanez]

During the 1980s when Moore was a democrat DA: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

During the 1990s when Moore was a republican Circuit judge: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

During the 2000s (01'-04' and 12'-16') when Moore was a Chief Justice of the Bama Supreme Court: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

It's only now, when Moore has won the republican nomination to run for an open Senate seat, 35-40 years after this behavior allegedly occurred, these allegations just coincidentally happen to surface when Moore is poised to make it to the big time. Definitely doesn't pass the smell test.

This is a well orchestrated attempt by the left to gain a Senate seat. Probably going to work, too.

That's a long con. You'd think you'd want to thwart his efforts earlier.

[Ibanez]

So you're saying this is a 40 year old long con put on by the Democrats, just knowing they could win a Senate seat in 2017? That's mighty prescient of them. Heck, if I was a conspiracy nut, I wouldn't dismiss this as a Republican smear campaign to get Moore off the ticket. If Jeff Sessions abruptly resigns as AG and comes back to Alabama to run as a write-in candidate just to "save" the seat you'll see even more conspiracy nuts come out of the woodwork.

Why wasn't anything said during the 1980s then?
Why wasn't anything said during the 1990s then?
Why wasn't anything said during the 2000s then?

Why just happen to wait until now, right when Moore is poised to win a Senate seat?

Weinstien made it possible. Thanks Harv!

[BDKJMU]

Just bolsters my belief about how wrong I was all those years when I defended Republican base voters in general and especially white Evangelical Christian voters in particular. The Republican Party has a problem with a base that is rotten at its core.

Huh? Moore's alleged 1970s/1980s behavior is right up your alley..Hell, I thought you'd come out saying no big deal if true..

[GannonFan]

Why wasn't anything said during the 1980s then?
Why wasn't anything said during the 1990s then?
Why wasn't anything said during the 2000s then?

Why just happen to wait until now, right when Moore is poised to win a Senate seat?

Weinstien made it possible. Thanks Harv!

It's a whole new world of people actually holding pedophiles and sexual harrassers/assaulters responsible for their transgressions. Heck, even Corey Feldman is slowly rolling out the names of people who assaulted him when he was a kid.

[dbackjon]

LOL at BDKKKJMU's crying over the "persecution" of one of his fellow racists.

The girls/women didn't say anything because of fear. This is not uncommon. I hope you aren't married/have daughters.

[CAA Flagship]

LOL at BDKKKJMU's crying over the "persecution" of one of his fellow racists.

The girls/women didn't say anything because of fear. This is not uncommon. I hope you aren't married/have daughters.

[Ibanez]

LOL at BDKKKJMU's crying over the "persecution" of one of his fellow racists.

The girls/women didn't say anything because of fear. This is not uncommon. I hope you aren't married/have daughters.

Is Moore a racist? He's a pedophile (allegedly) but where does the racism come from?

[JoltinJoe]

It's this accusation that creates problems? Not the first 4?

It's a total stretch to go from a 32 year old making out with 16 year olds to the same 32 year old feeling up a 14 year old. Zero corroboration.

You do realize that, of the first four "accusers," only one alleged Moore tried to engage in forcible sexual contact? The others actually said that he did not try anything beyond a consensual kiss. You know that, right?

Now there are two accusers that claim he engaged in forcible sexual conduct. That's now corroboration of such behavior.

I know. You actually didn't read the WaPo story.

[Ibanez]

It's a total stretch to go from a 32 year old making out with 16 year olds to the same 32 year old feeling up a 14 year old. Zero corroboration.

You do realize that, of the first four "accusers," only one alleged Moore tried to engage in forcible sexual contact? The others actually said that he did not try anything beyond a consensual kiss?

Now there are two accusers that claim he engaged in forcible sexual conduct. That's now corroboration of such behavior.

I know. You actually didn't read the WaPo story.

I think I read a NYT story.

Oh...so kissing an underage child is ok as long as you to get to handsy? Give me a break. Kissing (like dancing) leads to heavy petting...which leads to sex. That's a bit tongue-in-cheek, but seriously, it's still an inappropriate relationship with a minor. Legal or not...it's got to make you question his judgement. He sought out underage girls.

[kalm]

It's a total stretch to go from a 32 year old making out with 16 year olds to the same 32 year old feeling up a 14 year old. Zero corroboration.

You do realize that, of the first four "accusers," only one alleged Moore tried to engage in forcible sexual contact? The others actually said that he did not try anything beyond a consensual kiss. You know that, right?

Now there are two accusers that claim he engaged in forcible sexual conduct. That's now corroboration of such behavior.

I know. You actually didn't read the WaPo story.

Ok, JSO.

[BDKJMU]

LOL at BDKKKJMU's crying over the "persecution" of one of his fellow racists.

The girls/women didn't say anything because of fear. This is not uncommon. I hope you aren't married/have daughters.

Moore is a racist ? According to whom? What has Moore done that is racist?

Yeah, and they waited 30-40 years and just happened by chance to come forth a month or so before Moore is about to be elected to the senate, no coincidence at all..

A I guarantee you weren't in the 90s calling for Clinton to resign after being accused by multiple women of rape, sexual assault and sexual harrassment..

The only reason you are outraged is because this guy is a conk...If it was a liberal donk you would be:

[kalm]

LOL at BDKKKJMU's crying over the "persecution" of one of his fellow racists.

The girls/women didn't say anything because of fear. This is not uncommon. I hope you aren't married/have daughters.

Moore is a racist ? According to whom? What has Moore done that is racist?

Yeah, and they waited 30-40 years and just happened by chance to come forth a month or so before Moore is about to be elected to the senate, no coincidence at all..

A I guarantee you weren't in the 90s calling for Clinton to resign after being accused by multiple women of rape, sexual assault and sexual harrassment..

The only reason you are outraged is because this guy is a conk...If it was a liberal donk you would be:

Ok, Hannity Joe.

[JoltinJoe]

You do realize that, of the first four "accusers," only one alleged Moore tried to engage in forcible sexual contact? The others actually said that he did not try anything beyond a consensual kiss?

Now there are two accusers that claim he engaged in forcible sexual conduct. That's now corroboration of such behavior.

I know. You actually didn't read the WaPo story.

I think I read a NYT story.

Oh...so kissing an underage child is ok as long as you to get to handsy? Give me a break. Kissing (like dancing) leads to heavy petting...which leads to sex. That's a bit tongue-in-cheek, but seriously, it's still an inappropriate relationship with a minor. Legal or not...it's got to make you question his judgement. He sought out underage girls.

Only one of the four original sources was underage. The other three were legal, albeit too young for a 30-year-old.

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Only one of the four original sources was underage. The other three were legal, albeit too young for a 30-year-old.

So essentially, he tried to get with older teens that could at least resist his advances...

...and sexually assaulted the younger teens who were more vulnerable to his authority.

[dbackjon]

LOL at BDKKKJMU's crying over the "persecution" of one of his fellow racists.

The girls/women didn't say anything because of fear. This is not uncommon. I hope you aren't married/have daughters.

Moore is a racist ? According to whom? What has Moore done that is racist?

Yeah, and they waited 30-40 years and just happened by chance to come forth a month or so before Moore is about to be elected to the senate, no coincidence at all..

A I guarantee you weren't in the 90s calling for Clinton to resign after being accused by multiple women of rape, sexual assault and sexual harrassment..

The only reason you are outraged is because this guy is a conk...If it was a liberal donk you would be:

You mean like the jailed Anthony Weiner? No one defended him.

Listen to his speech, his reds and yellows, etc. He is a racist.

[JoltinJoe]

Only one of the four original sources was underage. The other three were legal, albeit too young for a 30-year-old.

So essentially, he tried to get with older teens that could at least resist his advances...

...and sexually assaulted the younger teens who were more vulnerable to his authority.

Seems that way now, doesn't it?

[BDKJMU]

How many times have we seen it now when when someone is running for POTUS, Senate, House, Governor, that something that happened decades prior just happens to pop up a few weeks or months before the election? Instead of bring it up years or decades earlier, people wait until a couple of weeks or months before the election. I'm not talking something that is publicly known and new details emerge. I'm talking something majorly negative, out of the blue, a couple of weeks/months before the election. That's not a coincidence. Its smacks of political gotcha..

Why wasn't this brought up during the primary?

Its gotten to the point now if its something that happened decades prior, and its that big a deal, then bring it up during the primary campaign. If its brought up a couple weeks/months before the election, that smacks of politics, and I'm going to tend to discount it.

[dbackjon]

Defending pedophiles...


Does it matter WHEN it happened?

Does it matter WHEN it was brought up?

Think about what has been happening around the country - lots of men, liberal and conservative, are being "outed" so to speak for being perverts, pedos, sexual predators, etc.

Did you ask the same question about Harvey Weinstein? Kevin Spacey? Are you upset that in Arizona, female legislators and lobbyists are finally exposing the perverts in the Arizona State House?

[BDKJMU]

During the 1980s when Moore was a democrat DA: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

During the 1990s when Moore was a republican Circuit judge: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

During the 2000s (01'-04' and 12'-16') when Moore was a Chief Justice of the Bama Supreme Court: no one said anything about Moore's behavior or asked him to resign.

It's only now, when Moore has won the republican nomination to run for an open Senate seat, 35-40 years after this behavior allegedly occurred, these allegations just coincidentally happen to surface when Moore is poised to make it to the big time. Definitely doesn't pass the smell test.

This is a well orchestrated attempt by the left to gain a Senate seat. Probably going to work, too.

So you're saying this is a 40 year old long con put on by the Democrats, just knowing they could win a Senate seat in 2017? That's mighty prescient of them. Heck, if I was a conspiracy nut, I wouldn't dismiss this as a Republican smear campaign to get Moore off the ticket. If Jeff Sessions abruptly resigns as AG and comes back to Alabama to run as a write-in candidate just to "save" the seat you'll see even more conspiracy nuts come out of the woodwork.

If it was an establishment conk smear campaign, they would have simply brought it up during the primary so their guy Luther Strange would have won.

[BDKJMU]

Defending pedophiles...


Does it matter WHEN it happened?

Does it matter WHEN it was brought up?

Think about what has been happening around the country - lots of men, liberal and conservative, are being "outed" so to speak for being perverts, pedos, sexual predators, etc.

Did you ask the same question about Harvey Weinstein? Kevin Spacey? Are you upset that in Arizona, female legislators and lobbyists are finally exposing the perverts in the Arizona State House?

Yes. Waiting decades, and then springing it right before an election (and these women didn't do this by themselves), is playing political gotcha, and makes it seem less credible than if had been disclosed way earlier..

[houndawg]

I'm seeing a major double standard here between the left now and Clinton in the 90s. Should Moore step down? Probably. But no more so than Clinton should have in the 90s..

Ancient history. He should have stepped down. Today's left, if that's what you want to call the Democrat corporate wing, bounced Wiener after the first dick pic. Big difference.