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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:03 pm

Yesterday streamers just happened to be added to the list of banned items inside Toyota Stadium for the NC game. Houston was just asked what his thoughts were on the streamer ban during his press conference today. He responded with "I think the NCAA just ensured that there will be more streamers than ever in Frisco, TX this year." :nod:

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:56 pm

I see the only tickets to sell on ebay so far, went for $450.00 for 2 tickets.

Sec 102
Row 2
Seats 9 & 10

These are NCAA Experience tickets so the hospitality package is included!

Enhance your game day with the NCAA Experience. The NCAA Experience is an official hospitality package of the NCAA offering comfort and convenience within the Winners Club at Toyota Stadium. This hospitality area offers a great opportunity to entertain clients, mingle with friends or simply hang out with your family. Enjoy the NCAA Division I Football Championship Game in style with the NCAA Experience. Space is limited; purchase your hospitality ticket package today!

Hit me up if you are interested

- Early access to the stadium before other fans
- Food and beverage options featuring local favorites
- Premium cash bar
- Access to the Club featuring a temperature controlled environment and separate restrooms

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:17 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:I see the only tickets to sell on ebay so far, went for $450.00 for 2 tickets.

Sec 102
Row 2
Seats 9 & 10

These are NCAA Experience tickets so the hospitality package is included!

Enhance your game day with the NCAA Experience. The NCAA Experience is an official hospitality package of the NCAA offering comfort and convenience within the Winners Club at Toyota Stadium. This hospitality area offers a great opportunity to entertain clients, mingle with friends or simply hang out with your family. Enjoy the NCAA Division I Football Championship Game in style with the NCAA Experience. Space is limited; purchase your hospitality ticket package today!

Hit me up if you are interested

- Early access to the stadium before other fans
- Food and beverage options featuring local favorites
- Premium cash bar
- Access to the Club featuring a temperature controlled environment and separate restrooms

FYI
Food and beverage served within the vender area must stay within the Club


Got my 2 I ordered through JMU..

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:08 pm

Common Opponent:
NDSU lost @ SDSU 33-20
JMU beat SDSU 51-16. _______________________________________________________________________

Scoring Offense:
NDSU - 2nd, 40.3 ppg
JMU - 8th, 35.9 ppg

Total Offense:
NDSU - 8th, 462.1 ypg
JMU - 21st, 431.7 ypg

Passing Offense:
JMU - 41st, 230.2 ypg
NDSU - 88th, 180.0 ypg

Rushing Offense:
NDSU - 4th, 282.1 ypg
JMU - 19th, 201.5 ypg_______________________________________________________________________

Scoring Defense:
JMU - 1st, 10.7 ppg
NDSU - 2nd, 11.5 ppg

Total Defense:
NDSU - 1st, 237.1 ypg
JMU - 3rd, 251.1 ypg

Passing Defense:
NDSU - 3rd, 147.9 ypg
JMU - 12th, 163.8 ypg

Rushing Defense:
JMU - 6th, 87.4 ypg
NDSU - 7th, 89.2 ypg________________________________________________________________________

Turnover Margin:
JMU - 43 gained, 19 lost. +24 TO.
NDSU - 33 gained, 16 lost. +17 TO.

Starting QB Passing Efficiency:
RANK NAME CL POSITION G PASS ATT PASS COM INT PASS YDS PASS TD PASS EFF
NDSU - 2nd Easton Stick Jr. QB 14 242 151 8 2336 27 173.7
JMU - 17th Bryan Schor Sr. QB 14 385 257 12 3074 26 149.9

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:04 pm

Opposing QB's vs JMU: 194/437 (44%) for 2,293 yards, 9 TD, 31 INT.

JMU secondary has 29 of JMU's nation leading 31 interceptions.
-rSr safety Jordan Brown: 2nd team All CAA, 1st team AP All American, 1st in nation with 9 interceptions.
-rJr corner Jimmy Moreland: 1st team All CAA, 2nd in nation with 8 Interceptions/1 TD.
-Jr corner Rashad Robinson: 1st team All CAA, 2nd team AP All American, 3rd team Stats All American, tied 3rd in nation with 7 interceptions/1 TD.
-rSr safety Raven Greene: 1st team All CAA, 2nd team Stats All American, tied 11th in nation with 5 interceptions/1 TD.
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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:32 am

BDKJMU wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:I see the only tickets to sell on ebay so far, went for $450.00 for 2 tickets.



Got my 2 I ordered through JMU..


We don't find out until Friday.
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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:06 am

Haven't found anything yet that would change my mind on a 7-14 point JMU advantage.

Best Team Defense faced
JMU
#15 Delaware
NDSU
#16 Illinois St

Best Scoring Defense faced
JMU
#9 Villanova
NDSU
#20 Youngstown St

Best Rushing Defense faced
JMU
#4 Villanova
NDSU
#14 Illinois St

Passing Yards Allowed defense faced
NDSU
#1 Youngstown St
JMU
#18 E Tennessee St
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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby dal4018 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:29 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:FWIW agreed. I'll take a stab at it. I know Soft Houston, JSU, and UCA were seeds and will finish top 10 in the STAS & Coaches', but no way they should
1. JMU/NDSU winner
2. JMU/NDSU loser
3. Weber 11-3
4. SDSU 11-3
5 Wofford 10-3.
6. WIU 8-4
7. SUU 9-3
8. SBU 10-3
9. NC A&T 12-0
10. Yale 9-1
11. SHSU 12-2
12. Kennesaw 12-2
13. JSU 10-2
14. UCA 10-2
15. UNI 8-5
16. UNH 9-5
17. S Dakota 8-5
18. Samford 8-4
19. Furman 8-5
20. Elon 8-4
21. San Diego 10-3
22. Nichols 8-4
23. EWU 7-4
24. Grambling 11-2
25. McNeese 9-2


Yale?
A&T only unbeaten squad

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby dal4018 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:30 pm

I enjoyed the FCS finale when it was televised on friday night on ESPN to me it was more exciting like Monday night football on a lower scale.

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:31 pm

dal4018 wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Yale?
A&T only unbeaten squad


Depending on if JMU wins or not.
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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:13 pm

dal4018 wrote:I enjoyed the FCS finale when it was televised on friday night on ESPN to me it was more exciting like Monday night football on a lower scale.


3 weeks is better than 1:
-Old system of 16 teams was 15 games in 16 weeks. Possibility of going on the road 4 straight weeks like JMU did in winning the NC in 04'. That is a GRIND. These are still student athletes. They aren't the pros like the P5.
-Current system (if the 2 that make the NC game are seeds), its 14 games in 16 weeks, 15 games in 19 weeks.

JMU entered this past weekend with double digit guys out. I'm pretty sure NDSU if they didn't have double digit guys out before SHSU, they did by the end of the game, losing 3 players. At least both teams have the opportunity to get some of their injured guys back.

Also better for the fans going, as with 3 weeks its easier to plan. Easier to get time off from work & get reasonable airfare on 3 weeks notice instead of 1.

My only grip is the noon on Sat (edit 11 AM local). Would be much better for Fri night 1/5, or Sat night 1/6, but because of the NFL & other bowls its stuck on noon ECB/11 AM local..
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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:16 pm

Wildcat Ryan wrote:
89Hen wrote:Teams (conferences) that refuse to play in the playoffs shouldn't be ranked.




I agree :nod:

I kind of do too, but the other polls/rankings all include them, so I did, too.

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Postby BDKJMU » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:32 pm

NDSU now at -4 on 5dimes..

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby Gil Dobie » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:07 am

BDKJMU wrote:NDSU now at -4 on 5dimes..


That's crazy, too much betting on past hype. If the Bison win, it would be by a FG or less.
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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:25 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:NDSU now at -4 on 5dimes..


That's crazy, too much betting on past hype. If the Bison win, it would be by a FG or less.

Someone posted this on the JMU board:
5dimes lines are not Vegas line, it’s offshore. The Vegas line is often very different from 5dimes when it comes out. If you remember the ECU v JMU line on 5dimes was around ECU-5, but when Vegas posted their line the week of the game JMU was -7.
The Vegas line may very well be in line with 5dimes, but I think it will close at pk.

We'll see..

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:28 pm

Looking at the NDSU game notes from vs SHSU, on their roster, I see A LOT of players from FL, more than I recall seeing in the past. Its like their roster is almost entirely the Dakotas & midwest, & then a big outlier in FL.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/ ... _State.pdf
-Count at least 11 players from FL.
-7 from FL on their 2 deep.
-4 from FL listed as starters (but one of them is one of the injured corners).

Among the 11 FL players I counted:
-9 RB/WR/DB
-1 OLB
-1 QB
No lineman. Its obvious they recruit FL for speed, which they obviously don't have enough of in the Dakotas...

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby dal4018 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:56 pm

89Hen wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:13. NC A&T 12-0
23. Yale 9-1
24. Grambling 11-2

Teams (conferences) that refuse to play in the playoffs shouldn't be ranked.
I wish that was not the case I want to see the MEAC&SWAC in the playoffs.

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby dal4018 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:58 pm

BDKJMU wrote:
dal4018 wrote:I enjoyed the FCS finale when it was televised on friday night on ESPN to me it was more exciting like Monday night football on a lower scale.


3 weeks is better than 1:
-Old system of 16 teams was 15 games in 16 weeks. Possibility of going on the road 4 straight weeks like JMU did in winning the NC in 04'. That is a GRIND. These are still student athletes. They aren't the pros like the P5.
-Current system (if the 2 that make the NC game are seeds), its 14 games in 16 weeks, 15 games in 19 weeks.

JMU entered this past weekend with double digit guys out. I'm pretty sure NDSU if they didn't have double digit guys out before SHSU, they did by the end of the game, losing 3 players. At least both teams have the opportunity to get some of their injured guys back.

Also better for the fans going, as with 3 weeks its easier to plan. Easier to get time off from work & get reasonable airfare on 3 weeks notice instead of 1.

My only grip is the noon on Sat (edit 11 AM local). Would be much better for Fri night 1/5, or Sat night 1/6, but because of the NFL & other bowls its stuck on noon ECB/11 AM local..
What about college basketball and the grind on the players but the media never complains.

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby dal4018 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:00 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:
dal4018 wrote:A&T only unbeaten squad


Depending on if JMU wins or not.

I think NDSU will knock them from the unbeaten ranks.

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:29 pm

dal4018 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
3 weeks is better than 1:
-Old system of 16 teams was 15 games in 16 weeks. Possibility of going on the road 4 straight weeks like JMU did in winning the NC in 04'. That is a GRIND. These are still student athletes. They aren't the pros like the P5.
-Current system (if the 2 that make the NC game are seeds), its 14 games in 16 weeks, 15 games in 19 weeks.

JMU entered this past weekend with double digit guys out. I'm pretty sure NDSU if they didn't have double digit guys out before SHSU, they did by the end of the game, losing 3 players. At least both teams have the opportunity to get some of their injured guys back.

Also better for the fans going, as with 3 weeks its easier to plan. Easier to get time off from work & get reasonable airfare on 3 weeks notice instead of 1.

My only grip is the noon on Sat (edit 11 AM local). Would be much better for Fri night 1/5, or Sat night 1/6, but because of the NFL & other bowls its stuck on noon ECB/11 AM local..
What about college basketball and the grind on the players but the media never complains.

On the one hand you have point there. I don't follow basketball (other than to know JMU sucks) but I believe the season is 2-3 weeks, around 5 games longer than it was back in the 90s..$$$$ has been placed in front of the well being & interest of the student athletes.. course with big time college basketball the notion of "student athletes" is a joke..

On the other hand, basketball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. 15 games in 16 weeks is a little too much IMHOP. These guys aren't the pros..

With the P5 title game, it will be 15 games (or 14 if Bama) in I think about 20 weeks..

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Postby dal4018 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:08 pm

BDKJMU wrote:
dal4018 wrote:What about college basketball and the grind on the players but the media never complains.

On the one hand you have point there. I don't follow basketball (other than to know JMU sucks) but I believe the season is 2-3 weeks, around 5 games longer than it was back in the 90s..$$$$ has been placed in front of the well being & interest of the student athletes.. course with big time college basketball the notion of "student athletes" is a joke..

On the other hand, basketball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. 15 games in 16 weeks is a little too much IMHOP. These guys aren't the pros..

With the P5 title game, it will be 15 games (or 14 if Bama) in I think about 20 weeks..

Point taken football is far more dangerous than basketball

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Postby Gil Dobie » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:51 am

BDKJMU wrote:Looking at the NDSU game notes from vs SHSU, on their roster, I see A LOT of players from FL, more than I recall seeing in the past. Its like their roster is almost entirely the Dakotas & midwest, & then a big outlier in FL.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/ ... _State.pdf
-Count at least 11 players from FL.
-7 from FL on their 2 deep.
-4 from FL listed as starters (but one of them is one of the injured corners).

Among the 11 FL players I counted:
-9 RB/WR/DB
-1 OLB
-1 QB
No lineman. Its obvious they recruit FL for speed, which they obviously don't have enough of in the Dakotas...


Carson Wentz cousin, Conner is from Florida, is listed as a TE, but was listed as an all conference FB.
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Postby Gil Dobie » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:53 am

dal4018 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:On the one hand you have point there. I don't follow basketball (other than to know JMU sucks) but I believe the season is 2-3 weeks, around 5 games longer than it was back in the 90s..$$$$ has been placed in front of the well being & interest of the student athletes.. course with big time college basketball the notion of "student athletes" is a joke..

On the other hand, basketball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. 15 games in 16 weeks is a little too much IMHOP. These guys aren't the pros..

With the P5 title game, it will be 15 games (or 14 if Bama) in I think about 20 weeks..

Point taken football is far more dangerous than basketball


You do have more protection in Football, and football, you only have around 10-15 minutes of game action in a game. Basketball, there is action the entire game. The clock stops in basketball, when the action stops.
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Postby dal4018 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:59 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Point taken football is far more dangerous than basketball


You do have more protection in Football, and football, you only have around 10-15 minutes of game action in a game. Basketball, there is action the entire game. The clock stops in basketball, when the action stops.

Yes there is more protection in football than basketball.

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby dal4018 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:01 am

As stated before I think NDSU will gain a measure of revenge@ JMU.


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