FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Who Wins the FCS Championship

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:16 pm

One of the biggest questions coming into the game for both teams is the status of some of the injured players- who plays & who doesn’t.

For the JMU offense:
-Does JMU’s starting RT #60 rSo Jahee Jackson, 2nd team All CAA & HERO Sophmore All American, return from his injury he suffered vs Weber in the quarterfinals. If he does, then #55, a rSr, can move from RT back to his RG spot, and JMU won’t be starting a true Fr at RG (3 star out HS in NJ with double digit I-A offers. He’s going to be a good one, but still a true Fr.)
Already have a rFr (also from NJ) at the LG spot, replacing the starter, a rSr who was injured in the round of 16 vs SBU, done for the season.

-Does starting WR #8 John Miller, CAA Special Teams Player of the Year, return from his ankle sprain he suffered in the round of 16 vs SBU. He was starting ahead of Riley Stapleton (who was banged up most of the regular season). Miller had the winning TD receptions vs SMU in 2015 and vs NDSU last year.

JMU under Houston is very close lipped about injuries, so might not know if these guys play until game time.

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Streamers banned in Frisco?

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:26 pm

BDKJMU wrote:Yesterday streamers just happened to be added to the list of banned items inside Toyota Stadium for the NC game. Houston was just asked what his thoughts were on the streamer ban during his press conference today. He responded with "I think the NCAA just ensured that there will be more streamers than ever in Frisco, TX this year." :nod:


Will the fans bring streamers or will they boycott the concessions?

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby dal4018 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:57 pm

BDKJMU wrote:One of the biggest questions coming into the game for both teams is the status of some of the injured players- who plays & who doesn’t.

For the JMU offense:
-Does JMU’s starting RT #60 rSo Jahee Jackson, 2nd team All CAA & HERO Sophmore All American, return from his injury he suffered vs Weber in the quarterfinals. If he does, then #55, a rSr, can move from RT back to his RG spot, and JMU won’t be starting a true Fr at RG (3 star out HS in NJ with double digit I-A offers. He’s going to be a good one, but still a true Fr.)
Already have a rFr (also from NJ) at the LG spot, replacing the starter, a rSr who was injured in the round of 16 vs SBU, done for the season.

-Does starting WR #8 John Miller, CAA Special Teams Player of the Year, return from his ankle sprain he suffered in the round of 16 vs SBU. He was starting ahead of Riley Stapleton (who was banged up most of the regular season). Miller had the winning TD receptions vs SMU in 2015 and vs NDSU last year.

JMU under Houston is very close lipped about injuries, so might not know if these guys play until game time.
Good to see talent from NJ my home state.

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Re: Streamers banned in Frisco?

Postby BDKJMU » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:17 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Yesterday streamers just happened to be added to the list of banned items inside Toyota Stadium for the NC game. Houston was just asked what his thoughts were on the streamer ban during his press conference today. He responded with "I think the NCAA just ensured that there will be more streamers than ever in Frisco, TX this year." :nod:


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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby Gil Dobie » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:38 am

Bison migration to Frisco

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby Gil Dobie » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:30 am

Per twitter...

Lance Dunn and Jaylen Wimbush in pads at practice.

Ty Brooks and Jalen Allison in street clothes.
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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:25 am

I thought I was bad when I do 3-4 posts in a row. 9 straight posts Gil is definitely JSO territory...

Anyway, HERO's staff predictions:
https://herosports.com/fcs-championship ... dison-byby

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby Gil Dobie » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:40 am

BDKJMU wrote:I thought I was bad when I do 3-4 posts in a row. 9 straight posts Gil is definitely JSO territory...

Anyway, HERO's staff predictions:
https://herosports.com/fcs-championship ... dison-byby


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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby JohnStOnge » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:58 pm

I have no real clue. Looks like a tossup to me. But I picked North Dakota State because that's who I'm pulling for. Not that it'll be that big a deal to me if they lose. But as I've said before I like North Dakota State's old school style.

Plus I think that thing the JMU coach does with the pre game yelling and rah rah rah is pretty hokie. There's something in me that likes to see people that act like that get smacked. The North Dakota State guy comes across as much more professional. Kind of makes me want to see him win even if I didn't like North Dakota State's old school style to begin with.
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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby Mvemjsunpx » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:26 am

JohnStOnge wrote:I have no real clue. Looks like a tossup to me.


I agree. NDSU has a knack for playing well in Frisco, but JMU has better special teams and that could be really important with two really good defenses involved. The recent Bison DB injuries could be a factor, too.

I'll take the Dukes 23-20.

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:34 am

JohnStOnge wrote:I have no real clue. Looks like a tossup to me. But I picked North Dakota State because that's who I'm pulling for. Not that it'll be that big a deal to me if they lose. But as I've said before I like North Dakota State's old school style.

Plus I think that thing the JMU coach does with the pre game yelling and rah rah rah is pretty hokie. There's something in me that likes to see people that act like that get smacked. The North Dakota State guy comes across as much more professional. Kind of makes me want to see him win even if I didn't like North Dakota State's old school style to begin with.

I like NDSU’s old school smash mouth style too. If it wasn’t JMU or another CAA team, and NDSU hadn’t won so many in the last 6 years, I’d be rooting for them.

A lot of coaches give rah rah speeches as a way to motivate (and a lot don’t). But Houston’s are obviously very motivating to his players- you can’t argue with his results as an HC:
Div 2 Lenoir Rhyne:
-2011 ties for conference title
-2012 2nd Round playoffs- 1st time that LH made the playoffs since the 1980s..
-2013 made Div 2 NC game.
Citadel:
-2014 5-7
-2015 2nd Round of playoffs- 1st time Citadel made the playoffs since I think 1992.
JMU.
-2016 won NC
-2017 14-0, made NC
Obviously those results aren’t all just X-Os, recruiting Jimmies & Joes & assembling a good staff. Motivation is also a factor. A # of commentators (former players) in Tv have commented after watching/hearing MH’s pregame speech how fired up they were and wished they could put the pads on. Some poster from another team said it last year after his speech that they were ready to jump through the TV set.

A HC doesn’t need to be a rah rah guy, but there should be someone on staff who is. If it’s one of the coordinators you’re likely never going to hear the locker room rah-rah..

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:38 am

kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Common Opponent:
NDSU lost @ SDSU 33-20
JMU beat SDSU 51-16. _______________________________________________________________________

Scoring Offense:
NDSU - 2nd, 40.3 ppg
JMU - 8th, 35.9 ppg

Total Offense:
NDSU - 8th, 462.1 ypg
JMU - 21st, 431.7 ypg

Passing Offense:
JMU - 41st, 230.2 ypg
NDSU - 88th, 180.0 ypg

Rushing Offense:
NDSU - 4th, 282.1 ypg
JMU - 19th, 201.5 ypg_______________________________________________________________________

Scoring Defense:
JMU - 1st, 10.7 ppg
NDSU - 2nd, 11.5 ppg

Total Defense:
NDSU - 1st, 237.1 ypg
JMU - 3rd, 251.1 ypg

Passing Defense:
NDSU - 3rd, 147.9 ypg
JMU - 12th, 163.8 ypg

Rushing Defense:
JMU - 6th, 87.4 ypg
NDSU - 7th, 89.2 ypg________________________________________________________________________

Turnover Margin:
JMU - 43 gained, 19 lost. +24 TO.
NDSU - 33 gained, 16 lost. +17 TO.

Starting QB Passing Efficiency:
RANK NAME CL POSITION G PASS ATT PASS COM INT PASS YDS PASS TD PASS EFF
NDSU - 2nd Easton Stick Jr. QB 14 242 151 8 2336 27 173.7
JMU - 17th Bryan Schor Sr. QB 14 385 257 12 3074 26 149.9


MVFC offenses have improved over the past couple of seasons while the CAA seems to struggle in that category so while the stats favor JMU you still have to consider SoS. Both teams took down really great offenses in the semi's and it's tough to tell which one is truly better.

I think JMU needs to continue it's takeaway feasting and Schor is going to have to make more plays through the air to beat the Bizon.


Agreed. I’m hoping, but not expecting, JMU to be able to effectively run the ball. I’m not expecting, but hoping Marcus Marshall can bust a long one.

As far as the JMU passing game, you have Schor throwing to at WR:
-#7 rSr Terrance Alls, Duke grad student transfer, 2nd team All CAA last year, 3rd team this year (suspended 1st 4 games).
-# Riley Stapleton (6’5”/218) who has been a monster the last 2 playoff games: 13 receptions, 259 yards, 3 TDs.
#8 Sr John Miller (CAA Special Teams POTY), caught winning TD pass last yr vs NDSU, IF he plays (sprained ankle vs SBU).
The other 3 JMU WR that play are pretty good. NDSU may be covering them with backup cornerbacks, including a true Fr, or banged up starters..

Plus JMU has a pretty good TE rSr #88 Johnathon Kloosterman. Was 1st team All CAA last year, (caught TD pass las year vs NDSU). Hasn’t done much this year (was suspended 2 games and missed a couple more with mono).

Like I said earlier, whether or not the starting RT #60 and #8 Miller can go and be effective could make a little difference.

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:42 am

Key for JMU on defense will be limiting NDSU’s powerful rushing attack. JMU defense didn’t look very good against the run vs SDSU, but that’s because they were playing stop the pass 1st due to the NFL TE and WR that SDSU have. Vs NDSU JMU will be playing stop the run 1st on defense. A great NDSU smash mouth running offense (#4 nationally in rushing offense at 282.1 ypg) vs the great JMU defense (#6 nationally vs the rush, 87.4 ypg) with 10 multi year starters, 9 of whom received All CAA honors, 5 of them All Americans.

If JMU doesn’t limit NDSU’s rushing game, then NDSU will likely also have success of the play action, & JMU is pretty much fucked. If JMU does limit NDSU’s rushing game, then they can limit the success of NDSU’s play action. If that happens & NDSU is forced to pass they are fucked (esp if NDSU falls behind). JMU’s de line (48 sacks) should then be able to pressure Stick. And I’ll take JMU’s DBs (31 INTs) against Stick & the NDSU WRs all day long.

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:45 am

I’ll go 17-16 JMU in a slugfest..

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Re: FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

Postby BDKJMU » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:56 am

Good news is apparently no one has pissed hot for this game..


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