Take The Guns First, Go Through Due Process Second

[andy7171]

Meh. He's unscripted. I'll go by his actions, not his words. He also mentioned merging Feinsteins bill into the current one.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

12 year olds should have rifles. Mine did

[93henfan]

Let’s just make it all 21. I’m OK with that:

1. Alcoholic beverages
2. Guns
3. Voting

Is that cool, Democrats?

[AZGrizFan]

12 year olds should have rifles. Mine did

Agreed. As did I. As did mine.

[93henfan]

Should I post vids of my 10 year old shooting his AR-15 at the range a few weeks ago?

[AZGrizFan]

Should I post vids of my 10 year old shooting his AR-15 at the range a few weeks ago?

[93henfan]

Should I post vids of my 10 year old shooting his AR-15 at the range a few weeks ago?

I’ll see what I can do tonight. I love that kid. He loves guns and the Philadelphia Eagles. He helps balance the universe against his older brother who worries about concussions in the NFL, dabbles in alternative diets, and thinks guns are the spawn of satan. This is what happens sometimes when the mother is from the SF Bay Area.

[CAA Flagship]

I’ll see what I can do tonight. I love that kid. He loves guns and the Philadelphia Eagles. He helps balance the universe against his older brother who worries about concussions in the NFL, dabbles in alternative diets, and thinks guns are the spawn of satan. This is what happens sometimes when the mother is from the SF Bay Area.

COONT!!!!!

[93henfan]

I’ll see what I can do tonight. I love that kid. He loves guns and the Philadelphia Eagles. He helps balance the universe against his older brother who worries about concussions in the NFL, dabbles in alternative diets, and thinks guns are the spawn of satan. This is what happens sometimes when the mother is from the SF Bay Area.

COONT!!!!!

Tooch me penis!

[dbackjon]

Two amendments with one stone. Impressive.

All this for your vote. Well done!!

[dbackjon]

Like I said all last year hes always been a liberal, they should love the guy.

There is nothing Liberal about Trump. He is yours. Embrace the horror.

[93henfan]

Two amendments with one stone. Impressive.

All this for your vote. Well done!!

My vote is meaningless. I’m in a deep blue state. We selected Hillary.

And you selected Trump.

Nice work.

[dbackjon]

Actually, this is blown WAY out of proportion by conservatives. I'll give you two examples. One - child custody/divorce proceedings - there is little to no due process involved there. I have a man that works for me, his "baby mama" makes one salacious, 100% untrue comment/accusation & boom - can't see his daughter for over 6 months & still about a year later can't have unsupervised visitation. The second is the no fly list - no process there either.

On the other hand you have to laugh at liberals. They applaud Dick's & Walmart's announcements yesterday on changing gun sales & herald their move. But a Christian bakery won't make a cake for a gay wedding & all hell breaks loose.

This country will never be great until we stop playing "sides".

On a side note, I thought yesterday was one of Trump's best days as a President & it's why I voted for him & had a lot of hope for him in the primaries. Telling Pat Toomey, who is a scum of the earth senator from my own home state that he's afraid of the NRA was one helluva grenade he threw in his lap. We elect people to get things done, yet they get very little done at all.

Child custody is a bit different from a specifically identified right guaranteed by the Constitution. But a family court injunction, as asinine as it is, is at least a fleeting whiff of due process

Using a no fly list is not - because as Ive said before - you get on the no fly list because somebody like me clicks a mouse - that is not due process... it is government fiat

As for Dicks and Walmart - if they choose not to sell "assault" weapons at all (whatever THAT is ... I can assault you with a .22) then thats fine- don't sell them

If they decide to only sell them to people 21 and over, they will lose that inevitable court battle... in fact I am sure the more savvy ambulance chasers already have 20 year olds lined up to be denied a gun at Wal Mart

You're right on this- When SCOTUS smacks that one down you had better believe the wedding cake mafia will cry foul


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One point I will agree with NRA on - I don't think the ban on adults of a certain age owning/buying weapons will fly, but then again, we limit what adults can buy alcohol (and for the record, I think both are wrong - once you are of legal age, and held responsible for your actions as an adult, you are an adult.

[dbackjon]

All this for your vote. Well done!!

My vote is meaningless. I’m in a deep blue state. We selected Hillary.

And you selected Trump.

Nice work.

My state was hacked by russians, because we have an idiot SoS that can't even post voting information correctly.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Should I post vids of my 10 year old shooting his AR-15 at the range a few weeks ago?

I hope this is my daughter in 3 years.

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[GannonFan]

My vote is meaningless. I’m in a deep blue state. We selected Hillary.

And you selected Trump.

Nice work.

My state was hacked by russians, because we have an idiot SoS that can't even post voting information correctly.

Can't be - Skelly said it's impossible to hack actual votes in the US - there's never been significant fraud in US election history. Impossible.

[Skjellyfetti]

Can't be - Skelly said it's impossible to hack actual votes in the US - there's never been significant fraud in US election history. Impossible.

when did i say it's impossible to hack actual votes in the US? I probably have said there's no evidence of that occuring... but, i find it hard to imagine I said it's impossible.


and, regarding voter fraud... y'all do this all the time. in-person voter fraud is miniscule.

In-person voter fraud, numbnuts.

If you want to require photo IDs to vote in order to lessen all the rampant (lol) in-person voter fraud,[/size] great. Go ahead. But, it should then be the state's obligation to provide these IDs to all eligible citizens.

Voter fraud happens more often through absentee voting than in person voter fraud
(link already posted)

Texas's voter I.D. law doesn't address this at all.

Why?

[GannonFan]

Can't be - Skelly said it's impossible to hack actual votes in the US - there's never been significant fraud in US election history. Impossible.

when did i say it's impossible to hack actual votes in the US? I probably have said there's no evidence of that occuring... but, i find it hard to imagine I said it's impossible.


and, regarding voter fraud... y'all do this all the time. in-person voter fraud is miniscule.

In-person voter fraud, numbnuts.

If you want to require photo IDs to vote in order to lessen all the rampant (lol) in-person voter fraud,[/size] great. Go ahead. But, it should then be the state's obligation to provide these IDs to all eligible citizens.

Voter fraud happens more often through absentee voting than in person voter fraud
(link already posted)

Texas's voter I.D. law doesn't address this at all.

Why?

You said no evidence of it and no evidence of impact on elections. Elections in the US are clean as a whistle.

[AZGrizFan]

Like I said all last year hes always been a liberal, they should love the guy.

There is nothing Liberal about Trump. He is yours. Embrace the horror.

Denial isn't a river in Egypt, pal.

[dbackjon]

There is nothing Liberal about Trump. He is yours. Embrace the horror.

Denial isn't a river in Egypt, pal.

And you and the rest of the GOP are sailing down it.

[CID1990]

I'm starting to like this Trump fella

He's got the whole board agreeing with me on guns, trade, leaks... you name it

BTW he's a statist

like Hillary

There's all kinds of people of all stripes under that tent


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[ASUG8]

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Our priorities are wrong. Why aren't we doing anything about golden retrievers driving cars on public roads?

[93henfan]

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Our priorities are wrong. Why aren't we doing anything about golden retrievers driving cars on public roads?

Obviously a crisis actor. In fact, I think I saw FEMA training that dog to drive trucks a few weeks ago.

[Gil Dobie]

The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjugated races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjugated races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police. -Adolph Hitler

[BDKJMU]

they'll be wrong this time too.

Every store I walked into as a kid had a sign that said "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"

But it's a good point - you can't refuse to sell to people because they're Black, so no matter what the sign says you don't have that right (heck, dawg, you're starting to sound like JSO).

It is interesting, I'm sure both Walmart and Dick's could be sued if all they do is set an age limit that's not tied to an actual law. Of course, they could just decide not to sell guns altogether, and that would be fine. Restricting ages, however noble, does seem to run afoul of the law.

With that said, I'm all in favor of making the ages for long guns and handguns the same anyway. Let's make it 21 across the board at the federal level and then the question of retailers being sued goes away.

How would that be constitutional, denying a constitutional right to an entire section of legal adults?