Remington... if you can't sell guns now (when?)

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:34 pm

Remington files for bankruptcy amid hottest gun sales market in US History...

WTF:
If you can't sell guns right now
You truly are not making anything people want
the gun market is as hot as it's ever been in US History

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:42 pm

Chizzang wrote:Remington files for bankruptcy amid hottest gun sales market in US History...

WTF:
If you can't sell guns right now
You truly are not making anything people want
the gun market is as hot as it's ever been in US History

Brush up on the past 10-15 years of ownership under the Freedom Group. This is a surprise to nobody who knows the gun industry. Or who appreciates quality.

Whenever somebody mentions an issue with a Remington firearm on a gun forum, the obligatory response is, “is it post-2007?”

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:43 pm

93henfan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Remington files for bankruptcy amid hottest gun sales market in US History...

WTF:
If you can't sell guns right now
You truly are not making anything people want
the gun market is as hot as it's ever been in US History

Brush up on the past 10-15 years of ownership under the Freedom Group. This is a surprise to nobody who knows the gun industry. Or who appreciates quality.

How about you give me a cliffs notes update there Sparky

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:45 pm

Chizzang wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Brush up on the past 10-15 years of ownership under the Freedom Group. This is a surprise to nobody who knows the gun industry. Or who appreciates quality.
How about you give me a cliffs notes update there Sparky

Google that shit, homie. Basically, they were bought by people who counted beans above all else. Cheap parts. Bad finishes and fit. Bad reputation since 2007.

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:48 pm

93henfan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
How about you give me a cliffs notes update there Sparky

Google that shit, homie. Basically, they were bought by people who counted beans above all else. Cheap parts. Bad finishes and fit. Bad reputation since 2007.

That works (Thank you)

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:52 pm

That being said, I still bought an 870 last year. However, I paid a little extra for the Police Magnum, which still uses retro beefed-up parts (along with the Wingmaster models) and is made for duty use, instead of the cheaper bits used in the 870 Express series geared to the mass market.

One thing a firearm company should never do is compromise what made it great. Price be damned. People will pay more for quality. There’s Hi-Point for those who just ain’t care.

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:55 pm

93henfan wrote:That being said, I still bought an 870 last year. However, I paid a little extra for the Police Magnum, which still uses retro beefed-up parts (along with the Wingmaster models) and is made for duty use, instead of the cheaper bits used in the 870 Express series geared to the mass market.

One thing a firearm company should never do is compromise what made it great. Price be damned. People will pay more for quality.

Marketing 101
Ride the horse that got you to the race

Marketing 102
Don't try to be all things to all customers

Marketing 103
Treat all growth as though it were a seductive lie

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:59 pm

^Amen

Case studies: Remington, NASCAR, every women’s sport

Post by **93henfan** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:15 am

But what a bot D1B?

Post by **CAA Flagship** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:33 am

93henfan wrote:But what a bot D1B?

He was bought out in 2015.
Hasn't been the same since.

ALPHAGRIZ1 · Post by **ALPHAGRIZ1** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:34 am

CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:But what a bot D1B?
He was bought out in 2015.
Hasn't been the same since.

He does come across as something cheap made in China.........

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houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:04 am

Chizzang wrote:Remington files for bankruptcy amid hottest gun sales market in US History...

WTF:
If you can't sell guns right now
You truly are not making anything people want
the gun market is as hot as it's ever been in US History

in 2020 the D's plan to run a Biden/Obama ticket and their platform will be total and complete gun ban. The
fix is in already.

Post by **93henfan** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:41 am

houndawg wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Remington files for bankruptcy amid hottest gun sales market in US History...

WTF:
If you can't sell guns right now
You truly are not making anything people want
the gun market is as hot as it's ever been in US History

in 2020 the D's plan to run a Biden/Obama ticket and their platform will be total and complete gun ban. The
fix is in already.

I don't believe the Obama part.

houndawg · Post by **houndawg** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:58 am

93henfan wrote:
houndawg wrote: in 2020 the D's plan to run a Biden/Obama ticket and their platform will be total and complete gun ban. The
fix is in already.
I don't believe the Obama part.

yep. And when Biden croaks we get 8 more years of Obama. Masterfully planned...

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:34 am

houndawg wrote:
93henfan wrote:
I don't believe the Obama part.
yep. And when Biden croaks we get 8 more years of Obama. Masterfully planned...

I'd argue we'd only get 4 more years (or less depending on when Biden would pass away). I think you could argue that Obama could be on the ticket as VP and could serve out the rest of Biden's elected term as the President, but that he couldn't run for his own term as President after that as that runs afoul of the 22nd amendment. Constitutionally speaking of course.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:07 pm

GannonFan wrote:
houndawg wrote: yep. And when Biden croaks we get 8 more years of Obama. Masterfully planned...
I'd argue we'd only get 4 more years (or less depending on when Biden would pass away). I think you could argue that Obama could be on the ticket as VP and could serve out the rest of Biden's elected term as the President, but that he couldn't run for his own term as President after that as that runs afoul of the 22nd amendment. Constitutionally speaking of course.

Oh, they're not just working on the SECOND amendment....

Post by **SeattleGriz** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:27 pm

Chizzang wrote:Remington files for bankruptcy amid hottest gun sales market in US History...

WTF:
If you can't sell guns right now
You truly are not making anything people want
the gun market is as hot as it's ever been in US History

While you got the cliff notes version earlier in the thread, gun sales have been down under Trump.

Post by **93henfan** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:03 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Remington files for bankruptcy amid hottest gun sales market in US History...

WTF:
If you can't sell guns right now
You truly are not making anything people want
the gun market is as hot as it's ever been in US History

While you got the cliff notes version earlier in the thread, gun sales have been down under Trump.

True over his whole term, but they certainly ticked up after Vegas and went bonkers after Stoneman Douglas and the scripted crying kids.

The past five weeks of sales are higher than any other period since the few months after Sandy Hook. The only difference between now and then is that the warehouses had such a glut of weaponry this time that the prices didn't spike much. Same deal with ammo. There's plenty of it at the moment.

That being said, this is the most turnover they've seen in six years, so if one more school gets shot up this year, expect serious shortages and price spikes.

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:45 pm

93henfan wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:While you got the cliff notes version earlier in the thread, gun sales have been down under Trump.
True over his whole term, but they certainly ticked up after Vegas and went bonkers after Stoneman Douglas and the scripted crying kids.

The past five weeks of sales are higher than any other period since the few months after Sandy Hook. The only difference between now and then is that the warehouses had such a glut of weaponry this time that the prices didn't spike much. Same deal with ammo. There's plenty of it at the moment.

That being said, this is the most turnover they've seen in six years, so if one more school gets shot up this year, expect serious shortages and price spikes.

True dat!
My 410 shells are holding steady (damned things are so over priced already it's crazy)

45 ammo is easy with a fantastic variety of choices

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:26 pm

Chizzang wrote:
93henfan wrote:
True over his whole term, but they certainly ticked up after Vegas and went bonkers after Stoneman Douglas and the scripted crying kids.

The past five weeks of sales are higher than any other period since the few months after Sandy Hook. The only difference between now and then is that the warehouses had such a glut of weaponry this time that the prices didn't spike much. Same deal with ammo. There's plenty of it at the moment.

That being said, this is the most turnover they've seen in six years, so if one more school gets shot up this year, expect serious shortages and price spikes.
True dat!
My 410 shells are holding steady (damned things are so over priced already it's crazy)

45 ammo is easy with a fantastic variety of choices

Um..

I wouldn’t consider the wadcutter or ball to be “choices”

Well, maybe they are I guess

Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:28 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
True dat!
My 410 shells are holding steady (damned things are so over priced already it's crazy)

45 ammo is easy with a fantastic variety of choices

Um..

I wouldn’t consider the wadcutter or ball to be “choices”

Well, maybe they are I guess

I just buy the cheapest sh!t on the shelf

Post by **93henfan** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:34 pm

Chizzang wrote:
I just buy the cheapest sh!t on the shelf

If it's for plinking, you're doing it right. Why it hell would you waste defense loads on paper or steel?

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:36 pm

Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Um..

I wouldn’t consider the wadcutter or ball to be “choices”

Well, maybe they are I guess
I just buy the cheapest sh!t on the shelf

Buy the cheapest hollow points on the shelf

Unless youre just plink plinking at targets, then get the wadcutters

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Post by **93henfan** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:36 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I just buy the cheapest sh!t on the shelf

Buy the cheapest hollow points on the shelf

Unless youre just plink plinking at targets, then get the wadcutters

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Hah. Beat you.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:38 pm

93henfan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Buy the cheapest hollow points on the shelf

Unless youre just plink plinking at targets, then get the wadcutters

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Hah. Beat you.

Damn

you caught me not reading your posts

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