Migrant Caravan

[CID1990]

That is at a port of entry. US-bound means not yet in the US.

Think like a lawyer when you read this stuff.

[∞∞∞]

That is at a port of entry. US-bound means not yet in the US.

Think like a lawyer when you read this stuff.

Of course this will be at a port-of-entry. The entire thread is about asylum-seekers that declare asylum at a port-of-entry, not someone who's crossing illegally and declares it when caught (although they have that right too). Anyways, I have to go to work...

[CID1990]

And who do you think this asylum officer is?

Unless they come from a country that has a UNHCR refugee declaration, they are denied. Honduras and El Salvador aren't on that list. People CAN get granted asylum from those countries, but not by showing up at the border and presenting themselves to a CBP officer. And every single person in this caravan has already been shown to not be in any imminent danger in Mexico, so the first question is going to be, "Why didn't you ask Mexico for asylum?"

They are economic migrants.

[Ivytalk]

Miss Chiquita is the only Central American immigrant that I’d let in.

[Ibanez]

Have they? Is that anecdotal or do you have factual information to base that on?

I'm not saying you're wrong - I'm interested in your sources.

If he gives you the details, backs up what he says, etc., you might accuse him of making his post too long and detailed.

If it's shorter than your usual diatribes, then no. Besides, DBJ responded with two links.

[CAA Flagship]

If you bring in a boatload of people to work high paying jobs, you better keep them employed because when the economy tanks, it will cost the government more in unemployment benefits.

Cid can correct me if I'm wrong - but, visas for high paying jobs like H1B are tied to your job. If you lose your job, you don't collect unemployment. And, you'd have to find another employer to hire you and reapply for H1B.

This is where the Obama Admin completely fucked up in it's slow reaction to the recession

Obama's slow reaction? I think you misspelled Bush.

We were 13 months into the recession when Obama was sworn in. It ended 4 months after he was sworn in.

Who's talking about visas? I'm talking about immigrants that become citizens.

Bush? What's wrong with you? Look at unemployment charts.
I give Obama a two year pass because of how severe the recession was. After that, he owned the recovery. And it was waaaaaaay toooooo sloooooow.

[CID1990]

Cid can correct me if I'm wrong - but, visas for high paying jobs like H1B are tied to your job. If you lose your job, you don't collect unemployment. And, you'd have to find another employer to hire you and reapply for H1B.



Obama's slow reaction? I think you misspelled Bush.

We were 13 months into the recession when Obama was sworn in. It ended 4 months after he was sworn in.

Who's talking about visas? I'm talking about immigrants that become citizens.

Bush? What's wrong with you? Look at unemployment charts.
I give Obama a two year pass because of how severe the recession was. After that, he owned the recovery. And it was waaaaaaay toooooo sloooooow.

Jelly's correct on the H1B - they are tied to specific jobs, though companies can make blanket petitions for groups of jobs without having specific people in mind

but there are many, many employment based visa classes that get less attention because they arent geared towards highly skilled jobs

there are also employment based immigrant visas .... dont get me started on those... the EW immigrant visa is one of the most asinine classes


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[CAA Flagship]

No you are replying to the people in this thread who want to turn bogus asylum-seekers away at the border simply because they don't like ILLEGAL immigrants and those who would like to exploit loopholes to gain easy, permanent entry into the country.

Yeah but nary a peep from you folks regarding those who employ them.

I don’t want illegals either and I’m not even opposed to building that stupid wall...whatever. But until the right also acknowledges illegal employers they are 100% full of shit on the issue.

Agree. But that won't help in the deportation of the illegal employees. They'll likely find another way to survive, and maybe that activity would be illegal.

If the basement is flooding, you stop the flow of water first. You don't replace the carpet that is soaking up the water first.

[kalm]

Yeah but nary a peep from you folks regarding those who employ them.

I don’t want illegals either and I’m not even opposed to building that stupid wall...whatever. But until the right also acknowledges illegal employers they are 100% full of shit on the issue.

Agree. But that won't help in the deportation of the illegal employees. They'll likely find another way to survive, and maybe that activity would be illegal.

If the basement is flooding, you stop the flow of water first. You don't replace the carpet that is soaking up the water first.

That almost made sense for a second but then I quickly realized it also supports what I'm saying. The thread is about immigration. No jobs for illegal workers, no illegal workers.

If you want to talk about denial of government assistance/enforcement once they are here, ok. But as you say, stop the flow of water first.

[89Hen]

Trump signs order to send National Guard, Mexico breaks up the caravan. Trump wins again.

BTW, loved how none of the national news sources yesterday evening ever mentioned that both Obama and Bush sent the Guard to the border during their tenure.

[Ibanez]

Trump signs order to send National Guard, Mexico breaks up the caravan. Trump wins again.

BTW, loved how none of the national news sources yesterday evening ever mentioned that both Obama and Bush sent the Guard to the border during their tenure.

CNN did.

[Skjellyfetti]

Trump signs order to send National Guard, Mexico breaks up the caravan. Trump wins again.

BTW, loved how none of the national news sources yesterday evening ever mentioned that both Obama and Bush sent the Guard to the border during their tenure.

Obama and his Deep State minions were conducting a secret military mission to seize control of Texas, though.

REMEMBER JADE HELM 15!!!

[89Hen]

Trump signs order to send National Guard, Mexico breaks up the caravan. Trump wins again.

BTW, loved how none of the national news sources yesterday evening ever mentioned that both Obama and Bush sent the Guard to the border during their tenure.

CNN did.

Is that still a network?

[Ivytalk]

Trump signs order to send National Guard, Mexico breaks up the caravan. Trump wins again.

BTW, loved how none of the national news sources yesterday evening ever mentioned that both Obama and Bush sent the Guard to the border during their tenure.

Obama and his Deep State minions were conducting a secret military mission to seize control of Texas, though.

REMEMBER JADE HELM 15!!!

No, but I remember Jesse Helms.

[89Hen]

Trump signs order to send National Guard, Mexico breaks up the caravan. Trump wins again.

BTW, loved how none of the national news sources yesterday evening ever mentioned that both Obama and Bush sent the Guard to the border during their tenure.

Obama and his Deep State minions were conducting a secret military mission to seize control of Texas, though.

REMEMBER JADE HELM 15!!!

Please, that was about an asteroid.

[Ibanez]

CNN did.

Is that still a network?

I listen to them on my way in each morning. Chris Cuomo, for a gun toting liberal, is the first to give 1) give Trump credit; 2) separate fact from opinion and; 3) call out liberals/democrats for their BS.

[andy7171]

So what happens if one of these caravans of immigrants runs into one of our NG or military platoons? Will the derranged dumbasses make a break for it? And if so, what should our troops do? If their mission is to protect the border, do they shoot? And if they do, who is to blame? The caravan would and should be called invaders at that time. It would be a nightmare, but I would hope they would be shot on sight. That would repel a shitload of future illegals from considering doing the same.

[89Hen]

So what happens if one of these caravans of immigrants runs into one of our NG or military platoons? Will the derranged dumbasses make a break for it? And if so, what should our troops do? If their mission is to protect the border, do they shoot? And if they do, who is to blame? The caravan would and should be called invaders at that time. It would be a nightmare, but I would hope they would be shot on sight. That would repel a shitload of future illegals from considering doing the same.

No. The NG is not allowed to intervene like that. They are only able to be in a support role.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

So what happens if one of these caravans of immigrants runs into one of our NG or military platoons? Will the derranged dumbasses make a break for it? And if so, what should our troops do? If their mission is to protect the border, do they shoot? And if they do, who is to blame? The caravan would and should be called invaders at that time. It would be a nightmare, but I would hope they would be shot on sight. That would repel a shitload of future illegals from considering doing the same.

Shoot on sight, anything less is an attack on the USA

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[andy7171]

So what happens if one of these caravans of immigrants runs into one of our NG or military platoons? Will the derranged dumbasses make a break for it? And if so, what should our troops do? If their mission is to protect the border, do they shoot? And if they do, who is to blame? The caravan would and should be called invaders at that time. It would be a nightmare, but I would hope they would be shot on sight. That would repel a shitload of future illegals from considering doing the same.

No. The NG is not allowed to intervene like that. They are only able to be in a support role.

Well, in that case I hope the caravan rolls into a military platoon that is not NG.

[kalm]

So what happens if one of these caravans of immigrants runs into one of our NG or military platoons? Will the derranged dumbasses make a break for it? And if so, what should our troops do? If their mission is to protect the border, do they shoot? And if they do, who is to blame? The caravan would and should be called invaders at that time. It would be a nightmare, but I would hope they would be shot on sight. That would repel a shitload of future illegals from considering doing the same.

Shoot on sight, anything less is an attack on the USA

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Like I said before, until you guys are pushing for shoot on sight orders for illegal employers you are full of shit.

[Chizzang]

Shoot on sight, anything less is an attack on the USA

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Like I said before, until you guys are pushing for shoot on sight orders for illegal employers you are full of shit.

You're going to have to slow that way down for Alpha

[css75]

Shoot on sight, anything less is an attack on the USA

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Like I said before, until you guys are pushing for shoot on sight orders for illegal employers you are full of ****.

I agree with you on this. Fine the crap out of the employers first time, jail them for subsequent offenses. Between this and strict ICE enforcement the immigration problem would be fixed promptly.


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[CID1990]

Shoot on sight, anything less is an attack on the USA

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Like I said before, until you guys are pushing for shoot on sight orders for illegal employers you are full of ****.

I thought we were all pretty much in agreement that people hiring illegals should be jailed

[Chizzang]

Like I said before, until you guys are pushing for shoot on sight orders for illegal employers you are full of ****.

I thought we were all pretty much in agreement that people hiring illegals should be jailed

At that point the conversation is over...
So apparently we don't "all pretty much agree"

Put one Burger King or McDonalds VP of Operationsin jail for 3 years
and the "immigration problem" ends in 72 hours