Beating Guam Guy At His Own Game

[Pwns]

At some point the argument has to be as simple as "isn't it time we moved on anyway"
in regards to new energy and fuel sources

Agree with this. The debate over the science has gotten boring and hasn't gotten anywhere.

If nothing else we need to move on because running the economy on fossil fuels makes a completely immature and mercurial part of the world (The Middle East) dangerously important. Ideally you want to get where we care as little about what goes on there as we do about what goes on in sub-Saharan Africa.

[Chizzang]

At some point the argument has to be as simple as "isn't it time we moved on anyway"
in regards to new energy and fuel sources

Agree with this. The debate over the science has gotten boring and hasn't gotten anywhere.

If nothing else we need to move on because running the economy on fossil fuels makes a completely immature and mercurial part of the world (The Middle East) dangerously important. Ideally you want to get where we care as little about what goes on there as we do about what goes on in sub-Saharan Africa.

This ^ a thousand times this ^

In a world where everybody (every country) can manage their own energy resources internally
Through the use of the Sun and Wind and Water etc.

The world becomes more about "IDEAS" and less about controlling a limited finite widget



and in a world where ideas are power and not resources...
Islam will dissolve itself into a myopic hysteria induced implosion

[SeattleGriz]

"What do you say to people who theorize that the Earth as it continues to warm is returning to its normal temperature?" Posey asked.

"Look, if you want to characterize a temperature above today's temperature as normal, you're free to do that, but that doesn't mean that's a planet we want to live on," Duffy said.

I don't know if "normal" applies but we are indeed well below what the average of believed temperatures over the time since large vertebrates started to thrive on land. Here is a graphic:



One could disagree about what's meant by the time during which large vertebrates have lived on land but I would say for sure that was happening during the Permian period and arguably during the Carboniferous period. So you're talking about about 360 to 290 million years ago. And you can see that the global temperature now is believed to be lower than it's been during most of the time since then. And it'll be lower than it's been most of the time since then even if global temperatures rise by the upper limits of the uncertainty intervals associated with current projections by the climate science community.

So what the politician was saying was basically referring to an accurate point.

How do they know all those facts about temp and stuff from so long ago?

[houndawg]

At some point the argument has to be as simple as "isn't it time we moved on anyway"
in regards to new energy and fuel sources

If money wasn't the single most important "thing" on earth (it is and I get that)
We could allow ourselves to actually entertain scientific development and growth in earnest

The question:
Why every building below 40 degrees N doesn't have a solar panel on it to this day... is shameful
We could NOT build the 300 M1 tanks the Military already DOESN'T want
and pay for that in 3 months

We're our own worst problem - that cannot be argued - regardless of which side of "science" you debate
and all the other stuff aside - we are ultimately our biggest problem... Even Jesus knew that

well said and great smug prick ending.

[SeattleGriz]

At some point the argument has to be as simple as "isn't it time we moved on anyway"
in regards to new energy and fuel sources

If money wasn't the single most important "thing" on earth (it is and I get that)
We could allow ourselves to actually entertain scientific development and growth in earnest

The question:
Why every building below 40 degrees N doesn't have a solar panel on it to this day... is shameful
We could NOT build the 300 M1 tanks the Military already DOESN'T want
and pay for that in 3 months

We're our own worst problem - that cannot be argued - regardless of which side of "science" you debate
and all the other stuff aside - we are ultimately our biggest problem... Even Jesus knew that

well said and great smug prick ending.

weak...as always. Day late and dollar short analysis. My phone spits out better updates.

[JohnStOnge]

I don't know if "normal" applies but we are indeed well below what the average of believed temperatures over the time since large vertebrates started to thrive on land. Here is a graphic:



One could disagree about what's meant by the time during which large vertebrates have lived on land but I would say for sure that was happening during the Permian period and arguably during the Carboniferous period. So you're talking about about 360 to 290 million years ago. And you can see that the global temperature now is believed to be lower than it's been during most of the time since then. And it'll be lower than it's been most of the time since then even if global temperatures rise by the upper limits of the uncertainty intervals associated with current projections by the climate science community.

So what the politician was saying was basically referring to an accurate point.

How do they know all those facts about temp and stuff from so long ago?

There are various means but note that I used the terminology "believed to be." In my opinion there is no way they could possibly validate the beliefs.

[Ibanez]

At some point the argument has to be as simple as "isn't it time we moved on anyway"
in regards to new energy and fuel sources

If money wasn't the single most important "thing" on earth (it is and I get that)
We could allow ourselves to actually entertain scientific development and growth in earnest

The question:
Why every building below 40 degrees N doesn't have a solar panel on it to this day... is shameful
We could NOT build the 300 M1 tanks the Military already DOESN'T want
and pay for that in 3 months

We're our own worst problem - that cannot be argued - regardless of which side of "science" you debate
and all the other stuff aside - we are ultimately our biggest problem... Even Jesus knew that