Something we should all agree on: Right-to-try laws

[CAA Flagship]

Here's a good article on the drug approval process and "Right to Try" legislation.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/right-to-t ... 018-05-30/

More harm than good?
Ultimately, we believe right to try gives the Trump administration a political win on a popular public policy but will do little to change the status quo for terminally ill patients. Some opponents say, if anything, it could give terminally ill patients false hope for new access to drugs they already can obtain through existing FDA policy.

Even if right to try does simplify federal regulation, patients must still convince a reticent pharmaceutical industry to provide drugs outside of trials, and patients must still bear the costs for these experimental treatments, which is out of reach for almost all Americans.

The right to try legislation will score the president and members on both sides of the aisle in Congress points, but ultimately it will change little for terminally ill patients and their families.

In other words, nothing will really change, only benefits the wealthy, and Trump gets to act like he is doing something.

Correct. He should have never signed this.

[Chizzang]

In other words, nothing will really change, only benefits the wealthy, and Trump gets to act like he is doing something.

Correct. He should have never signed this.

Note:
Acting like they're doing something is kind of all that presidents actually do now days

[JohnStOnge]

What a couple of idiots.

You just can’t help yourself. 3 consecutive posts in 10 minutes. Go to the blackboard and write “Trump is the greatest President ever” 100 times. And get help for that OCD.

They're a couple of idiots. And you know it as well as I do.

[89Hen]

They're a couple of idiots. And you know it as well as I do.

You can tell that from a picture. Must be nice to be so all seeing.

[JohnStOnge]

They're a couple of idiots. And you know it as well as I do.

You can tell that from a picture. Must be nice to be so all seeing.

I don't think you have to be all seeing to see that someone who would stand outside with a sign like that is an idiot.

[CID1990]

I just said it up there ^^^^

No ACA. Full stop. That’s what the period means.

But with full control of the house and senate and the Presidents "Repeal Obama" Care chant
they didn't do it..? Why..?



Seriously... The Republicans have been talking repeal for 36 months
The opportunity arrived... and *crickets

I’m not sure - but I’m pretty sure it has something to do with dissent over bad ideas

But the acknowledgement that Republicans arent all in lockstep with each other is duly noted

Sure could have used some ‘o that on the other side of the aisle back when the ACA was actually shat into existence

[CID1990]

Big Pharma will love this - human guinea pigs that waive all liability!!

If the therapy works, $$$$$$$ for Big Pharma. If the patient dies, oh well, they were gonna kick the bucket anyway.

For someone who surely has a strong opinion over the government telling you what you can’t put inside your body

You sure do have a strong opinion about the government telling you what you can put in your body

[UNI88]

You can tell that from a picture. Must be nice to be so all seeing.

I don't think you have to be all seeing to see that someone who would stand outside with a sign like that is an idiot.

That's your opinion John. I'm sure there are quite a few people that think only an idiot would spend a day driving somewhere when they could fly there in a couple of hours. Their opinion is just as valid as yours.

[89Hen]

You can tell that from a picture. Must be nice to be so all seeing.

I don't think you have to be all seeing to see that someone who would stand outside with a sign like that is an idiot.

Yes, you actually do. I know plenty of extremely smart people who are devout in their faith.

[Ivytalk]

You just can’t help yourself. 3 consecutive posts in 10 minutes. Go to the blackboard and write “Trump is the greatest President ever” 100 times. And get help for that OCD.

They're a couple of idiots. And you know it as well as I do.

Not really. Why don’t you run a full regression analysis on the relative IQs of Trump voters vs. Hildafecklesscoont voters? That’ll keep you busy (and offline) awhile.

[kalm]

I don't think you have to be all seeing to see that someone who would stand outside with a sign like that is an idiot.

Yes, you actually do. I know plenty of extremely smart people who are devout in their faith.

You can be devout and smart, but thanking Jesus for Trump is not, especially if you’re a Christian.

[CAA Flagship]

Correct. He should have never signed this.

Note:
Acting like they're doing something is kind of all that presidents actually do now days

I see that Obama 2.0 is still fresh in your mind.

[Chizzang]

I don't think you have to be all seeing to see that someone who would stand outside with a sign like that is an idiot.

Yes, you actually do. I know plenty of extremely smart people who are devout in their faith.

Honestly now
thinking Jesus has anything to do with Donald Trump is actually alarmingly stupid



Attributing trump to the god of mischief Loki is actually more reasonable
just to put it all in perspective

[Chizzang]

But with full control of the house and senate and the Presidents "Repeal Obama" Care chant
they didn't do it..? Why..?



Seriously... The Republicans have been talking repeal for 36 months
The opportunity arrived... and *crickets

I’m not sure - but I’m pretty sure it has something to do with dissent over bad ideas

But the acknowledgement that Republicans arent all in lockstep with each other is duly noted

Sure could have used some ‘o that on the other side of the aisle back when the ACA was actually shat into existence

So you're telling me the president didn't really have a better plan than the evil and stupid Obama Care..?
Even though he announced it several times..?
and you're telling me the Republicans that ran on the promise of a repeal were lying..?

CID I'm shocked !!!

I didn't get to keep my doctor dammit

[CID1990]

I’m not sure - but I’m pretty sure it has something to do with dissent over bad ideas

But the acknowledgement that Republicans arent all in lockstep with each other is duly noted

Sure could have used some ‘o that on the other side of the aisle back when the ACA was actually shat into existence

So you're telling me the president didn't really have a better plan than the evil and stupid Obama Care..?
Even though he announced it several times..?
and you're telling me the Republicans that ran on the promise of a repeal were lying..?

CID I'm shocked !!!

I didn't get to keep my doctor dammit

No, Clitz - I'm not saying any of that

You're over-analyzing

I'm saying the ACA never should have passed in the first place

everything that was predicted to be wrong with it has <FLASH> turned out to be correct

its too bad the Democrats don't tolerate dissent in their own caucus - maybe if they had been willing to disagree with their President the way the GOP has, we wouldnt be trying to fix a system that is more broken now than it was before

so basically - I'm opposed to the ACA. Try not to hurt anything reading mire into it than that

oh and Democrats own it


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[Chizzang]

So you're telling me the president didn't really have a better plan than the evil and stupid Obama Care..?
Even though he announced it several times..?
and you're telling me the Republicans that ran on the promise of a repeal were lying..?

CID I'm shocked !!!

I didn't get to keep my doctor dammit

No, Clitz - I'm not saying any of that

You're over-analyzing

I'm saying the ACA never should have passed in the first place

everything that was predicted to be wrong with it has <FLASH> turned out to be correct

its too bad the Democrats don't tolerate dissent in their own caucus - maybe if they had been willing to disagree with their President the way the GOP has, we wouldnt be trying to fix a system that is more broken now than it was before

so basically - I'm opposed to the ACA. Try not to hurt anything reading mire into it than that

oh and Democrats own it

America owns it...
Trump has already announced (continually) he's got a better plan (somewhere) lying around
and every congress person running on "Repeal and Replace" owns it too



The dumb guys passed it...
The Smart guys came along and said if we get into office we'll fix it
The smart guys are in office now - we're waiting for the fix

[css75]

No, Clitz - I'm not saying any of that

You're over-analyzing

I'm saying the ACA never should have passed in the first place

everything that was predicted to be wrong with it has <FLASH> turned out to be correct

its too bad the Democrats don't tolerate dissent in their own caucus - maybe if they had been willing to disagree with their President the way the GOP has, we wouldnt be trying to fix a system that is more broken now than it was before

so basically - I'm opposed to the ACA. Try not to hurt anything reading mire into it than that

oh and Democrats own it

America owns it...
Trump has already announced (continually) he's got a better plan (somewhere) lying around
and every congress person running on "Repeal and Replace" owns it too



The dumb guys passed it...
The Smart guys came along and said if we get into office we'll fix it
The smart guys are in office now - we're waiting for the fix

I think both own it for the reasons mentioned above. Also, if you want to attach more blame, Supreme Court judge Roberts is a great candidate


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[JohnStOnge]

They're a couple of idiots. And you know it as well as I do.

Not really. Why don’t you run a full regression analysis on the relative IQs of Trump voters vs. Hildafecklesscoont voters? That’ll keep you busy (and offline) awhile.

I think such an analysis would probably end up pretty inconclusive because the exit polls suggest that both very low IQ voters and very high IQ voters tended to vote for Clinton.

But I don't think there's any doubt that the overwhelming majority of highly intelligent people voted for Clinton.

And if you say something like "Thank you Jesus" for Trump you are an idiot. I don't think there's any need for a sophisticated analysis to reach that conclusion. And, again, I think you know that.

[CID1990]

No, Clitz - I'm not saying any of that

You're over-analyzing

I'm saying the ACA never should have passed in the first place

everything that was predicted to be wrong with it has <FLASH> turned out to be correct

its too bad the Democrats don't tolerate dissent in their own caucus - maybe if they had been willing to disagree with their President the way the GOP has, we wouldnt be trying to fix a system that is more broken now than it was before

so basically - I'm opposed to the ACA. Try not to hurt anything reading mire into it than that

oh and Democrats own it

America owns it...
Trump has already announced (continually) he's got a better plan (somewhere) lying around
and every congress person running on "Repeal and Replace" owns it too



The dumb guys passed it...
The Smart guys came along and said if we get into office we'll fix it
The smart guys are in office now - we're waiting for the fix

I'm not as fixated on Trump's campaign promises as you and everybody else - and I'm not sure how Trump's better plans and broken promises are any different from any others... except that his are flamboyant while others are .. more "nuanced" when they break them

(even if i had been inclined to vote for Trump, campaign promises wouldnt have been my bar)

OR- Presidents actually do follow through on their promises - see the ACA... (we got thrown in that briar patch)






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[Chizzang]

America owns it...
Trump has already announced (continually) he's got a better plan (somewhere) lying around
and every congress person running on "Repeal and Replace" owns it too



The dumb guys passed it...
The Smart guys came along and said if we get into office we'll fix it
The smart guys are in office now - we're waiting for the fix

I'm not as fixated on Trump's campaign promises as you and everybody else - and I'm not sure how Trump's better plans and broken promises are any different from any others... except that his are flamboyant while others are .. more "nuanced" when they break them

(even if i had been inclined to vote for Trump, campaign promises wouldnt have been my bar)

OR- Presidents actually do follow through on their promises - see the ACA... (we got thrown in that briar patch)

Broken campaign promises:
1 Donald Trump and 25 Senators and 100 plus something House Representatives
No big deal - nobody will even notice

Trump just keeps throwing new monkey sh!t into the air every 12 hours - who can keep up

[CID1990]

I'm not as fixated on Trump's campaign promises as you and everybody else - and I'm not sure how Trump's better plans and broken promises are any different from any others... except that his are flamboyant while others are .. more "nuanced" when they break them

(even if i had been inclined to vote for Trump, campaign promises wouldnt have been my bar)

OR- Presidents actually do follow through on their promises - see the ACA... (we got thrown in that briar patch)

Broken campaign promises:
1 Donald Trump and 25 Senators and 100 plus something House Representatives
No big deal - nobody will even notice

Trump just keeps throwing new monkey sh!t into the air every 12 hours - who can keep up

I can't figure out how broken campaign promises are a thing - I thought they were the norm


I hoped Obama had broken his - we wouldn't have the ACA - but we do... which brings us back full circle to wondering why Right to Try laws are going allow us to do something we can't afford anyway... since the ACA took care of all that

[kalm]

Broken campaign promises:
1 Donald Trump and 25 Senators and 100 plus something House Representatives
No big deal - nobody will even notice

Trump just keeps throwing new monkey sh!t into the air every 12 hours - who can keep up

I can't figure out how broken campaign promises are a thing - I thought they were the norm


I hoped Obama had broken his - we wouldn't have the ACA - but we do... which brings us back full circle to wondering why Right to Try laws are going allow us to do something we can't afford anyway... since the ACA took care of all that

The ACA is also responsible for the price of experimental drugs?

This ACA thing is worse than George Soros and Saul Alinsky combined!

[Chizzang]

Broken campaign promises:
1 Donald Trump and 25 Senators and 100 plus something House Representatives
No big deal - nobody will even notice

Trump just keeps throwing new monkey sh!t into the air every 12 hours - who can keep up

I can't figure out how broken campaign promises are a thing - I thought they were the norm


I hoped Obama had broken his - we wouldn't have the ACA - but we do... which brings us back full circle to wondering why Right to Try laws are going allow us to do something we can't afford anyway... since the ACA took care of all that

Just so you're clear... understand this
When this country fully surrenders itself to socialism
Just remember the Republicans had every opportunity to lead the way out of the dark



Yet chose to "do nothing" and had no ideas

[css75]

I can't figure out how broken campaign promises are a thing - I thought they were the norm


I hoped Obama had broken his - we wouldn't have the ACA - but we do... which brings us back full circle to wondering why Right to Try laws are going allow us to do something we can't afford anyway... since the ACA took care of all that

Just so you're clear... understand this
When this country fully surrenders itself to socialism
Just remember the Republicans had every opportunity to lead the way out of the dark



Yet chose to "do nothing" and had no ideas

Regrettably I have to agree with this. Thank you John McCain.


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[GannonFan]

I can't figure out how broken campaign promises are a thing - I thought they were the norm


I hoped Obama had broken his - we wouldn't have the ACA - but we do... which brings us back full circle to wondering why Right to Try laws are going allow us to do something we can't afford anyway... since the ACA took care of all that

Just so you're clear... understand this
When this country fully surrenders itself to socialism
Just remember the Republicans had every opportunity to lead the way out of the dark



Yet chose to "do nothing" and had no ideas

No argument there - although both parties are pretty much devoid of ideas at this point. We'll drift towards socialism, not really be directed there.