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AZGrizFan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Read this carefully. Nobody here "likes" Trump. Any support you read is towards his policies.

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I cannot BELIEVE you have bought into that bullshit. As soon as “safety” and “security” become a priority, our civil rights start getting infringed. There’s nothing more important to ME than civil liberty. Fuck “safety & security”. That’s how we get shit like the Homeland Security Department debacle.
You may be underestimating the value. I'm talking about everything from local law enforcement to national defense. Without these being strong, we would be living in fear everyday. And how could businesses operate without strong safety and security. Organized crime would end up being the biggest "business".
I hear what you are saying about civil liberty, but it seems like you are throwing out the whole 5 course meal just because you don't like the vegetable.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :ohno: :ohno:

I cannot BELIEVE you have bought into that bullshit. As soon as “safety” and “security” become a priority, our civil rights start getting infringed. There’s nothing more important to ME than civil liberty. Fuck “safety & security”. That’s how we get shit like the Homeland Security Department debacle.
You may be underestimating the value. I'm talking about everything from local law enforcement to national defense. Without these being strong, we would be living in fear everyday. And how could businesses operate without strong safety and security. Organized crime would end up being the biggest "business".
I hear what you are saying about civil liberty, but it seems like you are throwing out the whole 5 course meal just because you don't like the vegetable.
Or...as AZ likes to say, “throw out the whole 5 Course meal with the bath water”.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

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kalm wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: You may be underestimating the value. I'm talking about everything from local law enforcement to national defense. Without these being strong, we would be living in fear everyday. And how could businesses operate without strong safety and security. Organized crime would end up being the biggest "business".
I hear what you are saying about civil liberty, but it seems like you are throwing out the whole 5 course meal just because you don't like the vegetable.
Or...as AZ likes to say, “throw out the whole 5 Course meal with the bath water”.
You can lead a horse to bath water........
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CAA Flagship wrote:
kalm wrote:
Or...as AZ likes to say, “throw out the whole 5 Course meal with the bath water”.
You can lead a horse to bath water........
You can lead a baby to water but you can’t look him in the mouth.
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kalm wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: You can lead a horse to bath water........
You can lead a baby to water but you can’t look him in the mouth.
And he's worth more in the bush than on the hand. Or something like that. :coffee: :coffee: :tothehand:
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-d ... d=56001469

GOP members of congress put forth bill to stop the breaking apart of families. The ball is in the donk's court. Will they go along or is the controversy of small kids being separated from their parents too valuable for them politically?
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Pwns wrote:https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-d ... d=56001469

GOP members of congress put forth bill to stop the breaking apart of families. The ball is in the donk's court. Will they go along or is the controversy of small kids being separated from their parents too valuable for them politically?

Of course Democrats won't vote for it. They'll obstruct and then say the GOP isn't doing anything.
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HI54UNI wrote:Pictures from inside a couple detention facilities

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Honestly - detain them as families. Let's have some fucking humanity. Trump is 100% wrong on this.
These are all pictures from 2014.
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Chuck Schumer is basically telling Trump "just ignore the law and then we can keep families together".

The GOP needs to be on the attack here that the Democrats don't want to make a simple change to Flores ruling to keep these families together.
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HI54UNI wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Honestly - detain them as families. Let's have some fucking humanity. Trump is 100% wrong on this.
These are all pictures from 2014.
I don't care about the pictures. It's still wrong.
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HI54UNI wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Honestly - detain them as families. Let's have some fucking humanity. Trump is 100% wrong on this.
These are all pictures from 2014.
2014? When there was a surge of unaccompanied minors?

Kinda hard to detain them with their family when they're unaccompanied.

Minors with a parent weren't separated from their families in 2014.
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Ibanez wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
These are all pictures from 2014.
I don't care about the pictures. It's still wrong.
Yeah, fake news unfortunately works..
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
These are all pictures from 2014.
2014? When there was a surge of unaccompanied minors?

Kinda hard to detain them with their family when they're unaccompanied.

Minors with a parent weren't separated from their families in 2014.
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Damn babies making a run for the border.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I don't care about the pictures. It's still wrong.
Yeah, fake news unfortunately works..
Nothing fake about the policy from Trump's administration. Nothing fake about the children being taken from their families. It's good to see the GOP is about family values - as long as those values are straight and white. No queers or brown people, right?
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89Hen wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
2014? When there was a surge of unaccompanied minors?

Kinda hard to detain them with their family when they're unaccompanied.

Minors with a parent weren't separated from their families in 2014.
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Damn babies making a run for the border.

And the person they're gazing up towards? Bet it's a mami or papi and that baby isn't separated

Here's another shot if that helps

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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Yeah, fake news unfortunately works..
Nothing fake about the policy from Trump's administration. Nothing fake about the children being taken from their families. It's good to see the GOP is about family values - as long as those values are straight and white. No queers or brown people, right?
Using pictures from 2014 is fake. And it has nothing to do with race or being queer Dback.. :roll:

It sounds like you'd rather have the Bush/Obama catch and release/get out of jail free card where the OTMs would get caught entering illegally with kids in tow, get an NTA for weeks/months later, and 90% wouldn't show up. Mostly here to live forever illegally in the US and their kids become dreamers...These people know the kids in tow were their meal ticket..Screw enforcing the law.. :ohno:

Here's a novel idea. Don't get caught illegally entering the US, trying to use you're kids as a get out of jail free card, and you won't be separated from your kids. And word travels to Mexico & Central America fast. Notice how in the past when there was rumors of amnesty you'd see surges at the border.

Or better yet, pass Boob's bill for expedited removal proceedings, problem solved..
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Skjellyfetti wrote:And the person they're gazing up towards? Bet it's a mami or papi and that baby isn't separated

Here's another shot if that helps
Looks to be gazing at an INS agent. Not sure what you're seeing. Besides, I thought you were saying those photos were all of unaccompanied minors. You need to make up your mind you silly goose.
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Full retard.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... hiles.html
Actor Peter Fonda has a social media army and the Secret Service on his back after a twisted Twitter call to "rip Barron Trump from his mother's arms and put him in a cage with pedophiles."

The brother of Jane Fonda also called for violence against Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen and called White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders a "c---."
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Nothing fake about the policy from Trump's administration. Nothing fake about the children being taken from their families. It's good to see the GOP is about family values - as long as those values are straight and white. No queers or brown people, right?
Using pictures from 2014 is fake. And it has nothing to do with race or being queer Dback.. :roll:

It sounds like you'd rather have the Bush/Obama catch and release/get out of jail free card where the OTMs would get caught entering illegally with kids in tow, get an NTA for weeks/months later, and 90% wouldn't show up. Mostly here to live forever illegally in the US and their kids become dreamers...These people know the kids in tow were their meal ticket..Screw enforcing the law.. :ohno:

Here's a novel idea. Don't get caught illegally entering the US, trying to use you're kids as a get out of jail free card, and you won't be separated from your kids. And word travels to Mexico & Central America fast. Notice how in the past when there was rumors of amnesty you'd see surges at the border.

Or better yet, pass Boob's bill for expedited removal proceedings, problem solved..
I'd rather my government not separate families.I'd rather my gov't not use children as cannon fodder. I'd rather my government and President get their collective heads out of their asses and do something, especially when they have the votes and power.

I'm all for enforcing the law. If you took the time to read my exchange with 93 - me and him are on the same page. This is a fucking nightmare that was created by Trumps administration and can only be solved with him action (which I see on my phone he did by EO). Catch and Release is as stupid as this policy. Seriously, how can you defend it? You should stop choking on Trump's dick long enough to realize that he isn't the Messiah. He doesn't give a fuck about you.

Here's a novel idea - don't be heartless when dealing people that just risked their lives to make it to the USA. Legal or not - it's just wrong.
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So Trump signs an EO to stop the separation of families, after he created the crisis, and said the President has no power to fix it until Congress changes the law, and blamed the Dems for holding it up.

Whatever though; at least this bullshit policy is over. That's the important thing here.

edit: Opinion pending the actual text of the Executive Order. Haven't found it yet.
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∞∞∞ wrote:So Trump signs an EO to stop the separation of families, after he created the crisis, and said the President has no power to fix it until Congress changes the law, and blamed the Dems for holding it up.

Whatever though; at least this bullshit policy is over. That's the important thing here.

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∞∞∞ wrote:So Trump signs an EO to stop the separation of families
*seperation ;)
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89Hen wrote:Full retard.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... hiles.html
Actor Peter Fonda has a social media army and the Secret Service on his back after a twisted Twitter call to "rip Barron Trump from his mother's arms and put him in a cage with pedophiles."

The brother of Jane Fonda also called for violence against Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen and called White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders a "c---."
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There they are again...the Fonda family being the voice of reason in this country. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:So Trump signs an EO to stop the separation of families
*seperation ;)
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Ivytalk wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
*seperation ;)
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Questionable, but I'll take any compliment.

And don't worry skelly, I did actually get the joke. :thumb:
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