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Ivytalk wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/infl ... on-policy/

Of the top ten nations with foreigners immigrating to China, five are from historically white nations (US, Canada, France, Germany, Australia).
Yeah, but the numbers are pretty small, and the article states that China is restrictionist on immigration. Not any detail on the 70,000 US residents. Probably associated with commercial ventures, multinational law firms, etc. You don’t see waves of US citizens lining up for scarce visas to emigrate to that beacon of liberty and human rights.
They are all official Americans, workers with exceptional skills (working for American companies), and businesspeople. All of whom maintain permanent residence outside of China. This is a very odd angle Brookings is taking.
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Ivytalk wrote: Yeah, but the numbers are pretty small, and the article states that China is restrictionist on immigration. Not any detail on the 70,000 US residents. Probably associated with commercial ventures, multinational law firms, etc. You don’t see waves of US citizens lining up for scarce visas to emigrate to that beacon of liberty and human rights.
They are all official Americans, workers with exceptional skills (working for American companies), and businesspeople. All of whom maintain permanent residence outside of China. This is a very odd angle Brookings is taking.
Brookings leans Donk, even though it claims neutrality. Kind of an interregnum home for (Bill) Clintonista social scientists. What’s the angle? Are they trying to portray China as slouching toward the new normal of one-world international capitalism?
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∞∞∞ wrote:America is the most special case in the history of humanity. It's literally an ongoing experiment of an immigrant-heavy population and to be frank, it's clearly been successful as all hell.

As Reagan said, America is the "shining city on a hill." And I LOVE this country for it; the people it attracts are amazing. Whether poor or rich, black or white, smart or stupid, everyone here cares about liberty. We might be assholes to each other and disagree 99% of the time, but at the end of the day, you can usually share a beer with anyone, even if you can't share a language with them. Except Muslins...**** those people.
Hope you had a good night out, Trips. Did you share a beer with a bunch of folks from diverse backgrounds? :dance:

The Muslins I know from my grad cohort don’t drink much, although I have enjoyed pork-free meals with them. One young woman gave me some interesting beef-jerky-type snack with an Arabic name that I can’t remember.
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Pwns wrote:There's a lot wrong with white nationalist tenets and ideology, but there's one maxim they have that has truth to it: "Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, white countries for everyone."
Africa wouldn't be for Africans if people actually wanted to immigrate there. Asia, mostly Eastern China, has seen quite the uptick of immigrant populations. And there are certainly white nations.

Human migration patterns isn't a particularly complex thing. It boils down to people immigrating to places which offer opportunity, with geography playing a role (whether because of destitution or bordering conflicts).

Western Europe is successful. Geographically, it makes sense for Africans and Arabs to migrate there.

Eastern China is becoming successful. It's certainly attracting immigrants from all over the world right now, including white Europeans and Americans.

America is successful. Geographically, it makes sense for Latin Americans to migrate here. And even within the United States, immigrants tend to move to successful areas.

Would any of you want to immigrate to Africa? Would any of you want to immigrate to the Middle East? I certainly wouldn't. Could you see yourself living in Eastern Europe (which are white nations)? I'd say most of you would answer no.

Now ask yourselves, could you see yourself living in Western Europe? Or perhaps Canada? How about China if there's some serious money to be made?
Maybe Canada as soon as they legalize weed. :notworthy:

Canada has been giving us a taste of our own medicine: a friend of mine was denied entry two years ago because he had a warrant from the mid-70s when he was in college for "dog off of leash" which had supposedly been cleared up decades ago. If you've ever had a DUI they consider you a felon and no entry for you. I had a DUI back in the day and successfully crossed at Niagra falls many years ago so Kyle's incident could have been a fluke. He says that when the old warrant came up the boys at the border became decidedly unfriendly...
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∞∞∞ wrote: Africa wouldn't be for Africans if people actually wanted to immigrate there. Asia, mostly Eastern China, has seen quite the uptick of immigrant populations. And there are certainly white nations.

Human migration patterns isn't a particularly complex thing. It boils down to people immigrating to places which offer opportunity, with geography playing a role (whether because of destitution or bordering conflicts).

Western Europe is successful. Geographically, it makes sense for Africans and Arabs to migrate there.

Eastern China is becoming successful. It's certainly attracting immigrants from all over the world right now, including white Europeans and Americans.

America is successful. Geographically, it makes sense for Latin Americans to migrate here. And even within the United States, immigrants tend to move to successful areas.

Would any of you want to immigrate to Africa? Would any of you want to immigrate to the Middle East? I certainly wouldn't. Could you see yourself living in Eastern Europe (which are white nations)? I'd say most of you would answer no.

Now ask yourselves, could you see yourself living in Western Europe? Or perhaps Canada? How about China if there's some serious money to be made?
Maybe Canada as soon as they legalize weed. :notworthy:

Canada has been giving us a taste of our own medicine: a friend of mine was denied entry two years ago because he had a warrant from the mid-70s when he was in college for "dog off of leash" which had supposedly been cleared up decades ago. If you've ever had a DUI they consider you a felon and no entry for you. I had a DUI back in the day and successfully crossed at Niagra falls many years ago so Kyle's incident could have been a fluke. He says that when the old warrant came up the boys at the border became decidedly unfriendly...
DUI isn’t a crime involving moral turpitude in ours or Canada’s immigration codes. If they’re turning someone away it is for something else they aren’t admitting to - and an outstanding warrant is always grounds for a turnaround regardless of the crime. None of this is new
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Maybe Canada as soon as they legalize weed. :notworthy:

Canada has been giving us a taste of our own medicine: a friend of mine was denied entry two years ago because he had a warrant from the mid-70s when he was in college for "dog off of leash" which had supposedly been cleared up decades ago. If you've ever had a DUI they consider you a felon and no entry for you. I had a DUI back in the day and successfully crossed at Niagra falls many years ago so Kyle's incident could have been a fluke. He says that when the old warrant came up the boys at the border became decidedly unfriendly...
DUI isn’t a crime involving moral turpitude in ours or Canada’s immigration codes. If they’re turning someone away it is for something else they aren’t admitting to - and an outstanding warrant is always grounds for a turnaround regardless of the crime. None of this is new
And its secondhand too, and I got across despite a DUI (two actually) in the 70s. Would they really be able to find what amounts to an unpaid traffic ticket from the 70s?
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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
DUI isn’t a crime involving moral turpitude in ours or Canada’s immigration codes. If they’re turning someone away it is for something else they aren’t admitting to - and an outstanding warrant is always grounds for a turnaround regardless of the crime. None of this is new
And its secondhand too, and I got across despite a DUI (two actually) in the 70s. Would they really be able to find what amounts to an unpaid traffic ticket from the 70s?
Without improperly revealing too much about what I know about our very good friends to the north...

Maybe
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Pwns wrote:So today Bing has an animated map showing the flow of refugees throughout the world. The striking thing is that aside from some movement within Africa it's pretty much exclusively people heading to either Europe or the US.

Why don't people care that even countries like Japan (whose birth rate has fallen through the floor) have stubbornly refused to take in refugees? I even saw where an anonymous Japanese government official made a remark that they didn't want their women raped by Arab refugees. Why don't people call them nazis or bigots or whatever?

The only answer I can come up with is white guilt. Liberals have it drilled in their heads that the white man is the source of all the problems in the world and built it's civilization and made all the scientific and medical advances at the expense on brown people and they feel they need to make it right by us taking on all of the burden of giving sanctuary. Is xenophobia only xenophobia when white people do it? Or are they a bunch of bigots who only want white countries to have the joys and enrichment of a diverse society?
You have an interesting mind. I must have been absent for this lesson in liberal indoctrination because I honestly don’t feel guilt...except for how we treat Muslims of course.

Still waiting for an apology from the Mongols, tho.
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Pwns wrote:So today Bing has an animated map showing the flow of refugees throughout the world. The striking thing is that aside from some movement within Africa it's pretty much exclusively people heading to either Europe or the US.

Why don't people care that even countries like Japan (whose birth rate has fallen through the floor) have stubbornly refused to take in refugees? I even saw where an anonymous Japanese government official made a remark that they didn't want their women raped by Arab refugees. Why don't people call them nazis or bigots or whatever?

The only answer I can come up with is white guilt. Liberals have it drilled in their heads that the white man is the source of all the problems in the world and built it's civilization and made all the scientific and medical advances at the expense on brown people and they feel they need to make it right by us taking on all of the burden of giving sanctuary. Is xenophobia only xenophobia when white people do it? Or are they a bunch of bigots who only want white countries to have the joys and enrichment of a diverse society?
You have an interesting mind. I must have been absent for this lesson in liberal indoctrination because I honestly don’t feel guilt...except for how we treat Muslims of course.

Still waiting for an apology from the Mongols, tho.
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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
And its secondhand too, and I got across despite a DUI (two actually) in the 70s. Would they really be able to find what amounts to an unpaid traffic ticket from the 70s?
Without improperly revealing too much about what I know about our very good friends to the north...

Maybe
I was thinking like you about what is he really hiding, but maybe its the truth. I'd suppose that if they can find an offense that petty that they'd probably know of anything that might have been expunged too.
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
You have an interesting mind. I must have been absent for this lesson in liberal indoctrination because I honestly don’t feel guilt...except for how we treat Muslims of course.

Still waiting for an apology from the Mongols, tho.
We treat the Muslims exponentially better than they treat each other

Perpetual war notwithstanding
Good to know.

How bout Korean immigrants? I have a good friend who came here as a child. Members of her community would see her fraternizing and going out with us round eyes and call her parents to rat her out. One time they actually called our house and chewed me out saying “we don’t like what you’re doing with our daughter, Mr. kalm.” (True story :shock: :nod: ).

Fairly certain there’s a non-assimilation/racist streak among them.

But being the open minded type of liberal that I am, I welcome the older, cute Korean lady who runs the the Asian market and flirts with me.. :thumb:
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Ivytalk wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:America is the most special case in the history of humanity. It's literally an ongoing experiment of an immigrant-heavy population and to be frank, it's clearly been successful as all hell.

As Reagan said, America is the "shining city on a hill." And I LOVE this country for it; the people it attracts are amazing. Whether poor or rich, black or white, smart or stupid, everyone here cares about liberty. We might be assholes to each other and disagree 99% of the time, but at the end of the day, you can usually share a beer with anyone, even if you can't share a language with them. Except Muslins...**** those people.
Hope you had a good night out, Trips. Did you share a beer with a bunch of folks from diverse backgrounds? :dance:

The Muslins I know from my grad cohort don’t drink much, although I have enjoyed pork-free meals with them. One young woman gave me some interesting beef-jerky-type snack with an Arabic name that I can’t remember.
I think it translates as "dried goat shit and rye straw"
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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Without improperly revealing too much about what I know about our very good friends to the north...

Maybe
I was thinking like you about what is he really hiding, but maybe its the truth. I'd suppose that if they can find an offense that petty that they'd probably know of anything that might have been expunged too.
I will divulge this...

Expungements have no effect on INA Section 212 (2)(A)(i) (crimes involving moral turpitude)

I am pretty sure our Canuck friends feel the same way

(BTW expungements aren’t really expunged)
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Pwns wrote:So today Bing has an animated map showing the flow of refugees throughout the world. The striking thing is that aside from some movement within Africa it's pretty much exclusively people heading to either Europe or the US.

Why don't people care that even countries like Japan (whose birth rate has fallen through the floor) have stubbornly refused to take in refugees? I even saw where an anonymous Japanese government official made a remark that they didn't want their women raped by Arab refugees. Why don't people call them nazis or bigots or whatever?

The only answer I can come up with is white guilt. Liberals have it drilled in their heads that the white man is the source of all the problems in the world and built it's civilization and made all the scientific and medical advances at the expense on brown people and they feel they need to make it right by us taking on all of the burden of giving sanctuary. Is xenophobia only xenophobia when white people do it? Or are they a bunch of bigots who only want white countries to have the joys and enrichment of a diverse society?
yeah, they said the same thing about the Marines in Okinawa. :coffee:


I don't think you're right about the guilt, at least not to the degree you think. I heard a black comedian doing a riff on something like this, about why white folk shouldn't get butthurt because black folk get to use the n word. Basically his take was that the Top Dog has everything else and its kind of petty for the Top Dog to begrudge the Underdog such a small thing...
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
We treat the Muslims exponentially better than they treat each other

Perpetual war notwithstanding
Good to know.

How bout Korean immigrants? I have a good friend who came here as a child. Members of her community would see her fraternizing and going out with us round eyes and call her parents to rat her out. One time they actually called our house and chewed me out saying “we don’t like what you’re doing with our daughter, Mr. kalm.” (True story :shock: :nod: ).

Fairly certain there’s a non-assimilation/racist streak among them.

But being the open minded type of liberal that I am, I welcome the older, cute Korean lady who runs the the Asian market and flirts with me.. :thumb:
I got into a discussion with a Korean girl on the balcony of a bar on Bourbon St. years ago talking about the "Asian hierarchy". Her words, "1. Japan 2. South Korea 3. Doesn't matter, it's a distant third."
Needless to say, the conversation was a buzzkill, and I got nowhere :lol:

But back to topic, I think the Japs and the SoKos are more elitist than the other Asians. And probably rightfully so based on education.
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There was some sort of Korean tour event going on in DC yesterday. There were senior citizen Asians all dressed in yellow baseball caps, yellow t-shirts, white pants and white shoes and I saw hundreds of them from Capitol Hill all the way to Foggy Bottom. I learned they were Korean when I saw the writing on the shirts.

When I stepped out for lunch, I got behind three of them on the sidewalk and (luckily, just as I was making the pass and was clearing them) the guy in the back let out a long, loud, wet fart like he was alone. He just didn’t give a fuck.
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
We treat the Muslims exponentially better than they treat each other

Perpetual war notwithstanding
Good to know.

How bout Korean immigrants? I have a good friend who came here as a child. Members of her community would see her fraternizing and going out with us round eyes and call her parents to rat her out. One time they actually called our house and chewed me out saying “we don’t like what you’re doing with our daughter, Mr. kalm.” (True story :shock: :nod: ).

Fairly certain there’s a non-assimilation/racist streak among them.

But being the open minded type of liberal that I am, I welcome the older, cute Korean lady who runs the the Asian market and flirts with me.. :thumb:
Well in defense of the Koreans...

If I moved to your area I’d probably chew your ass too if I caught my daughter running with you degenerate sandpeople
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
We treat the Muslims exponentially better than they treat each other

Perpetual war notwithstanding
Good to know.

How bout Korean immigrants? I have a good friend who came here as a child. Members of her community would see her fraternizing and going out with us round eyes and call her parents to rat her out. One time they actually called our house and chewed me out saying “we don’t like what you’re doing with our daughter, Mr. kalm.” (True story :shock: :nod: ).

Fairly certain there’s a non-assimilation/racist streak among them.

But being the open minded type of liberal that I am, I welcome the older, cute Korean lady who runs the the Asian market and flirts with me.. :thumb:

...we may be looking at a case of Yellow Fever here, boys...
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93henfan wrote:There was some sort of Korean tour event going on in DC yesterday. There were senior citizen Asians all dressed in yellow baseball caps, yellow t-shirts, white pants and white shoes and I saw hundreds of them from Capitol Hill all the way to Foggy Bottom. I learned they were Korean when I saw the writing on the shirts.

When I stepped out for lunch, I got behind three of them on the sidewalk and (luckily, just as I was making the pass and was clearing them) the guy in the back let out a long, loud, wet fart like he was alone. He just didn’t give a ****.

..but he did try...
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kalm wrote:
Good to know.

How bout Korean immigrants? I have a good friend who came here as a child. Members of her community would see her fraternizing and going out with us round eyes and call her parents to rat her out. One time they actually called our house and chewed me out saying “we don’t like what you’re doing with our daughter, Mr. kalm.” (True story :shock: :nod: ).

Fairly certain there’s a non-assimilation/racist streak among them.

But being the open minded type of liberal that I am, I welcome the older, cute Korean lady who runs the the Asian market and flirts with me.. :thumb:
I got into a discussion with a Korean girl on the balcony of a bar on Bourbon St. years ago talking about the "Asian hierarchy". Her words, "1. Japan 2. South Korea 3. Doesn't matter, it's a distant third."
Needless to say, the conversation was a buzzkill, and I got nowhere :lol:

But back to topic, I think the Japs and the SoKos are more elitist than the other Asians. And probably rightfully so based on education.
They also hate each others guts and I bet she'd include China if the conversation were held today
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CAA Flagship wrote:
kalm wrote:
Good to know.

How bout Korean immigrants? I have a good friend who came here as a child. Members of her community would see her fraternizing and going out with us round eyes and call her parents to rat her out. One time they actually called our house and chewed me out saying “we don’t like what you’re doing with our daughter, Mr. kalm.” (True story :shock: :nod: ).

Fairly certain there’s a non-assimilation/racist streak among them.

But being the open minded type of liberal that I am, I welcome the older, cute Korean lady who runs the the Asian market and flirts with me.. :thumb:
I got into a discussion with a Korean girl on the balcony of a bar on Bourbon St. years ago talking about the "Asian hierarchy". Her words, "1. Japan 2. South Korea 3. Doesn't matter, it's a distant third."
Needless to say, the conversation was a buzzkill, and I got nowhere :lol:

But back to topic, I think the Japs and the SoKos are more elitist than the other Asians. And probably rightfully so based on education.
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Ivytalk wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I got into a discussion with a Korean girl on the balcony of a bar on Bourbon St. years ago talking about the "Asian hierarchy". Her words, "1. Japan 2. South Korea 3. Doesn't matter, it's a distant third."
Needless to say, the conversation was a buzzkill, and I got nowhere :lol:

But back to topic, I think the Japs and the SoKos are more elitist than the other Asians. And probably rightfully so based on education.
So you didn’t get into her kimono, eh? 8-)
I stopped trying once I realized she was smarter than me. :lol:
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The Japs are definitely the prettiest of the gooks, but the SoKo’s are damn close and as a group have bigger tits. So it’s a push.

Chinese women all have greasy faces and Moe haircuts. Once they evolve to modern toiletries and makeup application and get some decent hair stylists, they may register on the list.
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93henfan wrote:The Japs are definitely the prettiest of the gooks, but the SoKo’s are damn close and as a group have bigger tits. So it’s a push.

Chinese women all have greasy faces and Moe haircuts. Once they evolve to modern toiletries and makeup application and get some decent hair stylists, they may register on the list.
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Time magazine keeping the journalistic integrity high:


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