White guilt and the refugee issue.

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Chizzang wrote:Here's the most level headed Liberal... Sam on the "press"

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Perhaps, but he’s not the only liberal criticizing the NYT and establishment media for their sensationalism and getting things wrong. You hear it from Jimmy Dore, Rogan, etc.


Harris, Jordan Peterson, and to a lesser extent Brett Weinstein are the current darlings of the podcast circuit and I enjoy listening to them all. They’re especially popular with the alt right/libertarian crowd in their crusade against SJW’s.

I’m just waiting for some of Sam’s liberal ideas to come out. :geek:
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Now ask yourselves, could you see yourself living in Western Europe? Or perhaps Canada? How about China if there's some serious money to be made?
I can't even see myself leaving Louisiana because that's where I like living. MAYBE I could be convinced to move to St. Simons Island Georgia because I like it there. But I have NO desire to move to another country.

Of course I am not in economic distress. I'm not rich but I make a six figure salary and could retire right now if necessary. Louisiana is a low cost of living State too so no issue there. The fishing in Louisiana is as good as it gets. It's got the culture I grew up in and am comfortable in. I've got my grandkids a couple of miles down the road. There is no reason for me to want to move anywhere.
Those are all great reasons to stay in Louisiana - seriously.


Have you ever been to another country? Aside from Mexico and Canada, I don't see you driving to the Central America.
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93henfan wrote:Time magazine keeping the journalistic integrity high:


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Libtard TIMES peddling more FAKE NEWs. Turns out the girl in the picture was never separated from her mother..
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BDKJMU wrote:Turns out the girl in the picture was never separated from her mother..
You don't say.
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kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Here's the most level headed Liberal... Sam on the "press"

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Perhaps, but he’s not the only liberal criticizing the NYT and establishment media for their sensationalism and getting things wrong. You hear it from Jimmy Dore, Rogan, etc.


Harris, Jordan Peterson, and to a lesser extent Brett Weinstein are the current darlings of the podcast circuit and I enjoy listening to them all. They’re especially popular with the alt right/libertarian crowd in their crusade against SJW’s.

I’m just waiting for some of Sam’s liberal ideas to come out. :geek:
waiting..? for what, Sam to personally invite you..?

How about last weeks podcast on universal basic income..?
It's a topic that sends Conservatives into a bile spitting rage

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BDKJMU wrote: Libtard TIMES peddling more FAKE NEWs. Turns out the girl in the picture was never separated from her mother..
Hey: BDKJMU - Do you ever comment on Fox News fake news..?
or its it just "The Libtards"

and to your knowledge does trump ever create any "fake News"..?
just asking, I don't expect an answer
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Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
Perhaps, but he’s not the only liberal criticizing the NYT and establishment media for their sensationalism and getting things wrong. You hear it from Jimmy Dore, Rogan, etc.


Harris, Jordan Peterson, and to a lesser extent Brett Weinstein are the current darlings of the podcast circuit and I enjoy listening to them all. They’re especially popular with the alt right/libertarian crowd in their crusade against SJW’s.

I’m just waiting for some of Sam’s liberal ideas to come out. :geek:
waiting..? for what, Sam to personally invite you..?

How about last weeks podcast on universal basic income..?
It's a topic that sends Conservatives into a bile spitting rage

:ohno:
I’ve just listened to him as a guest on other podcasts and what you’ve posted which all tend toward this topic.

Guess I’ll have to give him a try. :thumb:
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kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
waiting..? for what, Sam to personally invite you..?

How about last weeks podcast on universal basic income..?
It's a topic that sends Conservatives into a bile spitting rage

:ohno:
I’ve just listened to him as a guest on other podcasts and what you’ve posted which all tend toward this topic.

Guess I’ll have to give him a try. :thumb:

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Chizzang wrote:
waiting..? for what, Sam to personally invite you..?

How about last weeks podcast on universal basic income..?
It's a topic that sends Conservatives into a bile spitting rage

:ohno:
And climate change and God and the minimum wage. Only in these nutty-ass times could he be one of my favorite commentators. :ohno: But with him you've got a guy that goes to great lengths to be honest and malleable to changing his mind when given good evidence.
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Ibanez wrote:Have you ever been to another country? Aside from Mexico and Canada, I don't see you driving to the Central America.
No I have not. It's interesting because I've had plenty of opportunity to. There are 14 people in the country who do the job I do and each of us is responsible for covering a number of States. But, typically, someone in my position also does international work. Everyone else has done it but I haven't.

I almost went to do work in Canada once. Got my passport and everything. Then I decided not to go. That was no problem because there is always someone else who wants to do it. As soon as I opted out someone else opted in. The only assignment I think about that maybe I might have wanted to do is New Zealand.

Many years ago I asked if I absolutely HAD to do international work. I was basically told that it might hurt my career some if I didn't but, no, I didn't have to if I really didn't want to.

It's interesting because I am the one who has done what I do the longest. I'm also the best by far at certain things like analytical design and data analysis. But I made a decision that I'm not going to do international work so it is what it is. And I'm comfortable with the decision.
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BDKJMU wrote: Libtard TIMES peddling more FAKE NEWs. Turns out the girl in the picture was never separated from her mother..
Yes I heard people on conservative talk radio today thinking they REALLY have something there.

But as far as I can tell they don't. As far as I can tell the entity that broke the story that the girl was never separated from her mother is the Washington Post. Then a bunch of other mainstream media entities picked it up. The mainstream media checked each other.

The mainstream media do strive for truth. They check things out. They check each other. They have rules and standards. That's why you know that the girl in the photo was not separated from her parents.

The basic story remains. The Trump Administration established a zero tolerance policy that resulted in an increase in the rate of children being separated from their parents. Then instead of owning it and doing something like making arguments for why it is necessary even if there are some unpleasant consequences, they lied to everyone and said they had no choice in the matter. They said they were required by law to do exactly what they were doing. Finally, when the optics became just too bad, Trump demonstrated that he was lying when he said that he had no other option. But we already knew, or should have already known, that they were lying when they were trying to sell the idea that the law required them to do what they were doing.
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BTW, I don't even necessarily disagree with the policy. But it's another instance in which Trump lied repeatedly.
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JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, I don't even necessarily disagree with the policy. But it's another instance in which Trump lied repeatedly.
^^^^^^^

Another pathetic effort to resuscitate conservative street cred by a Huey P. Long liberal.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
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The problem with that for me is that, while I don't know about the New York Times, I watched CNN and know that they did put Trump's "Animals" comment into the context of his reference to MS-13. So to me he's kind of setting up a false premise at least with respect to CNN.
CNN didn't correct the narrative until two days after it happened. Initially, Don Lemon, the silver-haired fag and their guests promoted the false narrative that Trump referred to all brown folks as animals.
Well, typically when I'm able to, I watch CNN from 5 am through 6 am CDT. And I don't recall ever not knowing through watching that the comment was made in the context of a question about MS-13.

Obviously the guy we're talking about is not a conservative so I don't know what's going on with him. But one thing I've noticed in listening to conservative radio talk show hosts and such is that they frequently say that mainstream media "don't tell you" things when I know that's false because I've been actually watching, reading, and listening to mainstream media. Rush Limbaugh is particularly bad about that.
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BDKJMU wrote:
93henfan wrote:Time magazine keeping the journalistic integrity high:


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Libtard TIMES peddling more FAKE NEWs. Turns out the girl in the picture was never separated from her mother..
Not only was she not separated from her mother, but they Photoshopped her mother out of the picture for the Time cover. Trump should sue them for defamation.

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93henfan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Libtard TIMES peddling more FAKE NEWs. Turns out the girl in the picture was never separated from her mother..
Not only was she not separated from her mother, but they Photoshopped her mother out of the picture for the Time cover. Trump should sue them for defamation.

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JohnStOnge wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
But one thing I've noticed in listening to conservative radio talk show hosts and such is that they frequently say that mainstream media "don't tell you" things when I know that's false because I've been actually watching, reading, and listening to mainstream media. Rush Limbaugh is particularly bad about that.
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Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, I don't even necessarily disagree with the policy. But it's another instance in which Trump lied repeatedly.
^^^^^^^

Another pathetic effort to resuscitate conservative street cred by a Huey P. Long liberal.

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93henfan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Libtard TIMES peddling more FAKE NEWs. Turns out the girl in the picture was never separated from her mother..
Not only was she not separated from her mother, but they Photoshopped her mother out of the picture for the Time cover. Trump should sue them for defamation.

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houndawg wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Not only was she not separated from her mother, but they Photoshopped her mother out of the picture for the Time cover. Trump should sue them for defamation.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06 ... ished.html

:lol: :lol:

Here comes the parade of celebrity know-nothing political candidates. She probably won't win, but it's just a matter of time before donks have a candidate that will get some resonance with voters.
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Pwns wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06 ... ished.html

:lol: :lol:

Here comes the parade of celebrity know-nothing political candidates. She probably won't win, but it's just a matter of time before donks have a candidate that will get some resonance with voters.
I’m all for abolishing ICE as well. Just set up a sentry post every half mile along the southern border, give one audible warning to illegal crossers, then shoot them on sight. It would save a shit-ton of taxpayer funds and send an unmistakable message.
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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:

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That idiot from Sex and the City who’s running for NY gov was on that morning hag show and said we need to abolish ICE

The host asked her what should we replace it with and she said “nothing” because we didn’t have it before 9-11

technically true - but good lord what a moron - we’re inventing new words for being pro-open borders .... like the abortion debate

I’m not pro-open borders , I’m anti-fascism
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Ivytalk wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
That idiot from Sex and the City who’s running for NY gov was on that morning hag show and said we need to abolish ICE

The host asked her what should we replace it with and she said “nothing” because we didn’t have it before 9-11

technically true - but good lord what a moron - we’re inventing new words for being pro-open borders .... like the abortion debate

I’m not pro-open borders , I’m anti-fascism
Cynthia Nixon — a whackjob lesbian with a tranny kid. The future of American politics? She almost makes me root for Cuomo. :roll:
But it’s her positions you don’t like, right? It’s not because The gay is scary?
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Cynthia Nixon — a whackjob lesbian with a tranny kid. The future of American politics? She almost makes me root for Cuomo. :roll:
But it’s her positions you don’t like, right? It’s not because The gay is scary?
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