The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

[Ivytalk]

Ruh roh, Team Brown digging the Trump Train:

President Trump's approval rating has ticked up to 47 percent in the new Harvard CAPS/Harris poll released exclusively to The Hill, a 2 point hike from last month.

Trump's approval rating was lifted in part by a 10 point climb among Hispanic voters. His approval rating rose by 6 points among Republicans and by 4 points among Democrats compared to last month’s poll. According to the same poll, Trump's approval rating reached its highest point last year, at 49 percent.

Fifty-nine percent of Americans approve of the way the government is handling its relationship with North Korea, and three-quarters backed Trump’s decision to take a meeting with Kim.
“[I’m] surprised that given the misstep on immigration that the president’s approval is holding steady or even increasing on the strength of the economy and the success of North Korea," said Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll co-director Mark Penn. "He is holding his base and doing particularly well with men."

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/39 ... 47-percent

So JSO, what were you saying about those demographics trending towards the donks?

Oh and it's the economy stupid.

The World Cup bubble?

[CAA Flagship]

That's not to say I like the lies, but I'm not worried about what hat I'm wearing while watching flames spread throughout my house.

There were no flames spreading through the House before Trump got elected.

[CAA Flagship]

Ruh roh, Team Brown digging the Trump Train:

President Trump's approval rating has ticked up to 47 percent in the new Harvard CAPS/Harris poll released exclusively to The Hill, a 2 point hike from last month.

Trump's approval rating was lifted in part by a 10 point climb among Hispanic voters. His approval rating rose by 6 points among Republicans and by 4 points among Democrats compared to last month’s poll. According to the same poll, Trump's approval rating reached its highest point last year, at 49 percent.

Fifty-nine percent of Americans approve of the way the government is handling its relationship with North Korea, and three-quarters backed Trump’s decision to take a meeting with Kim.
“[I’m] surprised that given the misstep on immigration that the president’s approval is holding steady or even increasing on the strength of the economy and the success of North Korea," said Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll co-director Mark Penn. "He is holding his base and doing particularly well with men."

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/39 ... 47-percent

So JSO, what were you saying about those demographics trending towards the donks?

Oh and it's the economy stupid.

[93henfan]

“Stuttering John” Melendez (of Howard Stern pranking fame) was able to get through to Trump on Air Force One, posing as Sen Menendez of NJ, and picked Trump’s brain on immigration and his Kennedy-replacement SCOTUS pick. He also spoke to Jared Kushner.

JFC.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... e-One.html

[kalm]

Republican operative: JSO is right.

(And yes, you COULD write a similar article about the Democratic party right now too. But this is the MAGA thread)

From CID and Baldy's "go-to" rag....

This cancer has always been there. This dormant cancer. But it has become fully embraced in this moment. We’re seeing at this moment a president of the United States do five things. He is using mass rallies that are fueled by constant lying to incite fervor and devotion in his political base. The second thing we see him do is to affix blame for every problem in the world. Many of them are complex, not so different from the issues faced at the end of Agrarian age and the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. We see him attack minority populations with words like “invade” and “infest.” The third thing he does is a create a shared sense of victimization caused by the scapegoated populations. This is the high act of Trumpism: From Trump to Sean Hannity to Laura Ingraham, everyone is a victim. The fourth thing he does is he alleges conspiracy by nefarious and unseen hidden forces – the “deep state.” And the fifth thing is the assertion that “I am the law, that I am above it.” He just said immigrants don’t get a hearing; they don’t get a court representation..............


The two parties for a long time were not homogeneous ideologically. There were plenty of conservatives in the Democratic Party, and there were no small number of liberals in the Republican Party. Now, culturally, we’re in thrall to theocratic crackpots like Mike Huckabee and Franklin Graham and Jerry Falwell, where you’re able to justify the candidacy of a Roy Moore because you want to keep the Senate seat. The theocracy and crackpot sewer conservatism has taken over.

What you’ve seen is this rapid devolution over the last 18 months of the Republican Party becoming a white ethno-nationalist party, a blood-and-soil party that is protectionist, isolationist, that is rooted in resentment and grievance.


The Republican Party isn’t going to die because of Trump. It’s going to die because of Ryan and McConnell. You’re now left with one political party in support of liberal democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... ed-667008/

[JohnStOnge]

The polling results described at https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 747954002/ suggest that there isn't a consensus among Americans that America is great right now. The overall response to the question of whether or not one is proud of America right now was 42% yes and 39% no. That's basically a "can't tell which is higher" as the poll has a "credibility interval of 3.5 percentage points so what you're talking about is yes at 38.5% to 45.5% and no at 35.5% to 42.5%.

And I will say that as soon as you see "credibility interval" that means the poll doesn't involve a probability sample and is therefore a little suspect (see https://www.aapor.org/Communications/Pr ... -it-d.aspx).

I thought about how I would've answered the question of whether I am proud of America right now. Honestly I'd have to think about it. Bottom line is that I am extremely embarrassed by the fact that America has enough people in its population who would vote for somebody like Trump to create a situation in which somebody like Trump could be President.

So I guess I'd probably have to answer the question "no" if I was asked right now. It's hard to be proud of America when something so embarrassing is going on.

[Ivytalk]

The polling results described at https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 747954002/ suggest that there isn't a consensus among Americans that America is great right now. The overall response to the question of whether or not one is proud of America right now was 42% yes and 39% no. That's basically a "can't tell which is higher" as the poll has a "credibility interval of 3.5 percentage points so what you're talking about is yes at 38.5% to 45.5% and no at 35.5% to 42.5%.

And I will say that as soon as you see "credibility interval" that means the poll doesn't involve a probability sample and is therefore a little suspect (see https://www.aapor.org/Communications/Pr ... -it-d.aspx).

I thought about how I would've answered the question of whether I am proud of America right now. Honestly I'd have to think about it. Bottom line is that I am extremely embarrassed by the fact that America has enough people in its population who would vote for somebody like Trump to create a situation in which somebody like Trump could be President.

So I guess I'd probably have to answer the question "no" if I was asked right now. It's hard to be proud of America when something so embarrassing is going on.

Why don’t you start your own fucking poll, Mr. Probability Sample? You’re as proud of America as the Obamas.

[JohnStOnge]

The polling results described at https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 747954002/ suggest that there isn't a consensus among Americans that America is great right now. The overall response to the question of whether or not one is proud of America right now was 42% yes and 39% no. That's basically a "can't tell which is higher" as the poll has a "credibility interval of 3.5 percentage points so what you're talking about is yes at 38.5% to 45.5% and no at 35.5% to 42.5%.

And I will say that as soon as you see "credibility interval" that means the poll doesn't involve a probability sample and is therefore a little suspect (see https://www.aapor.org/Communications/Pr ... -it-d.aspx).

I thought about how I would've answered the question of whether I am proud of America right now. Honestly I'd have to think about it. Bottom line is that I am extremely embarrassed by the fact that America has enough people in its population who would vote for somebody like Trump to create a situation in which somebody like Trump could be President.

So I guess I'd probably have to answer the question "no" if I was asked right now. It's hard to be proud of America when something so embarrassing is going on.

Why don’t you start your own **** poll, Mr. Probability Sample? You’re as proud of America as the Obamas.

I don't have the resources. Also, I have great respect for pollsters who actually do try to get probability samples in today's day and age.

I wouldn't want to live anywhere else country-wise than the United States. But it IS kind of tough to be proud of the country right when there were enough people in the population to create a situation where an embarrassment like that could end up as President. I mean, it really makes us look stupid.

[Ivytalk]

Why don’t you start your own **** poll, Mr. Probability Sample? You’re as proud of America as the Obamas.

I don't have the resources. Also, I have great respect for pollsters who actually do try to get probability samples in today's day and age.

I wouldn't want to live anywhere else country-wise than the United States. But it IS kind of tough to be proud of the country right when there were enough people in the population to create a situation where an embarrassment like that could end up as President. I mean, it really makes us look stupid.

Not hard empirically to do a probability sample if you have a reliable sample frame. The frames exist, but the surveys can be costly.

[JohnStOnge]

I don't have the resources. Also, I have great respect for pollsters who actually do try to get probability samples in today's day and age.

I wouldn't want to live anywhere else country-wise than the United States. But it IS kind of tough to be proud of the country right when there were enough people in the population to create a situation where an embarrassment like that could end up as President. I mean, it really makes us look stupid.

Not hard empirically to do a probability sample if you have a reliable sample frame. The frames exist, but the surveys can be costly.

The problem is access to the elements. For instance you could try to collect a probability sample of registered voters. And you could get a list of all the registered voters in the United States. Theoretically, at least. Then you could randomly select 1000 registered voters from that list. But then you would have to be able to contact then get an accurate response from every single person on that list or the probability sample would be compromised.

I mean think about it. Imagine you could get a list of every registered voter in the United States. Now imagine trying to get in touch with 1000 of them you selected, get them to agree to answer questions, and get honest answers from all of them in a relatively short time frame like a week or so.

What they are able to do amazes me. I could design a probability survey of a geographical area to estimate the average square footage of houses there. I could design one of some defined area to estimate the number of trees at least 10 feet tall there. But I'd have to learn a lot about how opinion pollsters overcome some of the obstacles they are confronted with in order to do public opinion polling.

Frankly what they are able to do is amazing. Like if you look at the final RealClearPolitics polls for the 2016 Presidential election the various polls 11 polls they have listed have estimates ranging from Trump by 2 to Clinton by 6 with sample sizes ranging from 799 to 16,639. And the 16,639 is an outlier. The average was Clinton by 3.3 and the actual outcome was Clinton by 2.1.

Saying that is a "bad" performance by the pollsters is ridiculous.

[∞∞∞]

SAN ANTONIO (AP) — Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged, the Associated Press has learned.

The AP was unable to quantify how many men and women who enlisted through the special recruitment program have been booted from the Army, but immigration attorneys say they know of more than 40 who have been discharged or whose status has become questionable, jeopardizing their futures.

“It was my dream to serve in the military,” said reservist Lucas Calixto, a Brazilian immigrant who filed a lawsuit against the Army last week. “Since this country has been so good to me, I thought it was the least I could do to give back to my adopted country and serve in the United States military.”

Some of the service members say they were not told why they were being discharged. Others who pressed for answers said the Army informed them they’d been labeled as security risks because they have relatives abroad or because the Defense Department had not completed background checks on them.

https://apnews.com/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d

[93henfan]

SAN ANTONIO (AP) — Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged, the Associated Press has learned.

The AP was unable to quantify how many men and women who enlisted through the special recruitment program have been booted from the Army, but immigration attorneys say they know of more than 40 who have been discharged or whose status has become questionable, jeopardizing their futures.

“It was my dream to serve in the military,” said reservist Lucas Calixto, a Brazilian immigrant who filed a lawsuit against the Army last week. “Since this country has been so good to me, I thought it was the least I could do to give back to my adopted country and serve in the United States military.”

Some of the service members say they were not told why they were being discharged. Others who pressed for answers said the Army informed them they’d been labeled as security risks because they have relatives abroad or because the Defense Department had not completed background checks on them.

https://apnews.com/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d

That’s quite shitty if it’s being done under unpublicized directive. People do get discharged from time to time due to their background checks or foreign contacts. Need more info on this. We’re in a hypersensitive time on the brown-people issue, so they could easily start piping off to create another media frenzy.

I’m all in favor of the path to citizenship via the military. We had two brown people in my platoon at Parris Island who could barely speak Ingles, but they could hump a combat load and shoot the fuck out of an M-16. That’s good enough for the infantry.

[CID1990]

https://apnews.com/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d

That’s quite shitty if it’s being done under unpublicized directive. People do get discharged from time to time due to their background checks or foreign contacts. Need more info on this. We’re in a hypersensitive time on the brown-people issue, so they could easily start piping off to create another media frenzy.

I’m all in favor of the path to citizenship via the military. We had two brown people in my platoon at Parris Island who could barely speak Ingles, but they could hump a combat load and shoot the **** out of an M-16. That’s good enough for the infantry.

Neo Deep State?

[SDHornet]

Republican operative: JSO is right.

(And yes, you COULD write a similar article about the Democratic party right now too. But this is the MAGA thread)

From CID and Baldy's "go-to" rag....

This cancer has always been there. This dormant cancer. But it has become fully embraced in this moment. We’re seeing at this moment a president of the United States do five things. He is using mass rallies that are fueled by constant lying to incite fervor and devotion in his political base. The second thing we see him do is to affix blame for every problem in the world. Many of them are complex, not so different from the issues faced at the end of Agrarian age and the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. We see him attack minority populations with words like “invade” and “infest.” The third thing he does is a create a shared sense of victimization caused by the scapegoated populations. This is the high act of Trumpism: From Trump to Sean Hannity to Laura Ingraham, everyone is a victim. The fourth thing he does is he alleges conspiracy by nefarious and unseen hidden forces – the “deep state.” And the fifth thing is the assertion that “I am the law, that I am above it.” He just said immigrants don’t get a hearing; they don’t get a court representation..............


The two parties for a long time were not homogeneous ideologically. There were plenty of conservatives in the Democratic Party, and there were no small number of liberals in the Republican Party. Now, culturally, we’re in thrall to theocratic crackpots like Mike Huckabee and Franklin Graham and Jerry Falwell, where you’re able to justify the candidacy of a Roy Moore because you want to keep the Senate seat. The theocracy and crackpot sewer conservatism has taken over.

What you’ve seen is this rapid devolution over the last 18 months of the Republican Party becoming a white ethno-nationalist party, a blood-and-soil party that is protectionist, isolationist, that is rooted in resentment and grievance.


The Republican Party isn’t going to die because of Trump. It’s going to die because of Ryan and McConnell. You’re now left with one political party in support of liberal democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... ed-667008/

The problem with this (and JSO's views/ideas(?)) is that what is the alternative for the supposed "conservatives" suppose to be? The DNC is moving further left at breakneck speed (in case you missed it Perez claimed that socialism is the future of the party as demonstrated by the Ocasio Cortez win ). Right now the Repub tent is big...very big. So unless "conservatives" want to go 3rd party or start their own fringe right wing party then there is really no viable alternative for them.

[houndawg]

https://apnews.com/38334c4d061e493fb108bd975b5a1a5d

That’s quite shitty if it’s being done under unpublicized directive. People do get discharged from time to time due to their background checks or foreign contacts. Need more info on this. We’re in a hypersensitive time on the brown-people issue, so they could easily start piping off to create another media frenzy.

I’m all in favor of the path to citizenship via the military. We had two brown people in my platoon at Parris Island who could barely speak Ingles, but they could hump a combat load and shoot the **** out of an M-16. That’s good enough for the infantry.

We had a Puerto Rican who learned all his English in the Army - would have loved to put him in dress blues and turned him loose at some embassy -"...fucking poosy I keek yo azz.."

[houndawg]

Republican operative: JSO is right.

(And yes, you COULD write a similar article about the Democratic party right now too. But this is the MAGA thread)

From CID and Baldy's "go-to" rag....




https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... ed-667008/

The problem with this (and JSO's views/ideas(?)) is that what is the alternative for the supposed "conservatives" suppose to be? The DNC is moving further left at breakneck speed (in case you missed it Perez claimed that socialism is the future of the party as demonstrated by the Ocasio Cortez win ). Right now the Repub tent is big...very big. So unless "conservatives" want to go 3rd party or start their own fringe right wing party then there is really no viable alternative for them.

I tried to warn you about Bernie - you should probably keep an eye on this lady.

How the DNC receives and treats her is going to have a bigly effect on the number of third party and stay home voters on the left. It sounds like Perez recognizes that and is at least paying lip service until they can figure out a way to marginalize her.


And the "big" Republican tent...

[SDHornet]

The problem with this (and JSO's views/ideas(?)) is that what is the alternative for the supposed "conservatives" suppose to be? The DNC is moving further left at breakneck speed (in case you missed it Perez claimed that socialism is the future of the party as demonstrated by the Ocasio Cortez win ). Right now the Repub tent is big...very big. So unless "conservatives" want to go 3rd party or start their own fringe right wing party then there is really no viable alternative for them.

I tried to warn you about Bernie - you should probably keep an eye on this lady.

How the DNC receives and treats her is going to have a bigly effect on the number of third party and stay home voters on the left. It sounds like Perez recognizes that and is at least paying lip service until they can figure out a way to marginalize her.

Keep an eye on her as far as what? How many more D's go the #walkaway route as they move more left? Ok.

The leftists don't have to worry about how the DNC will handle her, they have to worry about how to keep the high roller donors on board with the neo-Marxist agenda. Good luck with that.

Cortez (attractive Brown chic) won a district that is now Brown, and Crowley (old white guy) completely ignored her thinking he had it in the bag because he always won. However I will say that I like the win because this will only hasten the DNC's pending schism between moderates/centrist D's and neo-Marxists/leftists. So maybe a moderate D like myself might actually have a reason to vote D again once the revamped DNC stops moving left and actually develops a platform other than promising free give aways (at the expense at those who actually work) and calling everyone a Nazi/fascist/xxx-ist.

As far as big tent, apparently you haven't kept an eye on the polls. My fellow Brown folk are buying into the Trump Train and that should scare the shit out of the DNC. Hint: just like anyone else, we like keeping our hard earned money in our pocket. It's the economy stupid.

[houndawg]

I tried to warn you about Bernie - you should probably keep an eye on this lady.

How the DNC receives and treats her is going to have a bigly effect on the number of third party and stay home voters on the left. It sounds like Perez recognizes that and is at least paying lip service until they can figure out a way to marginalize her.

Keep an eye on her as far as what?[ How many more D's go the #walkaway route as they move more left? Ok.

The leftists don't have to worry about how the DNC will handle her, they have to worry about how to keep the high roller donors on board with the neo-Marxist agenda. Good luck with that.

Cortez (attractive Brown chic) won a district that is now Brown, and Crowley (old white guy) completely ignored her thinking he had it in the bag because he always won. However I will say that I like the win because this will only hasten the DNC's pending schism between moderates/centrist D's and neo-Marxists/leftists. So maybe a moderate D like myself might actually have a reason to vote D again once the revamped DNC stops moving left and actually develops a platform other than promising free give aways (at the expense at those who actually work) and calling everyone a Nazi/fascist/xxx-ist.

As far as big tent, apparently you haven't kept an eye on the polls. My fellow Brown folk are buying into the Trump Train and that should scare the **** out of the DNC. Hint: just like anyone else, we like keeping our hard earned money in our pocket. It's the economy stupid.

They're going to have to come up with a way to distinguish them from the rest of the deportees. Until then its probably best to be seen as a very vocal supporter of Trump if you aren't white. Don't be afraid to lay it on thick. But you should probably stay way from the rallies because they may fuck you up nicely before you have a chance to prove that you're one of the good mud people.

[SDHornet]

Keep an eye on her as far as what?[ How many more D's go the #walkaway route as they move more left? Ok.

The leftists don't have to worry about how the DNC will handle her, they have to worry about how to keep the high roller donors on board with the neo-Marxist agenda. Good luck with that.

Cortez (attractive Brown chic) won a district that is now Brown, and Crowley (old white guy) completely ignored her thinking he had it in the bag because he always won. However I will say that I like the win because this will only hasten the DNC's pending schism between moderates/centrist D's and neo-Marxists/leftists. So maybe a moderate D like myself might actually have a reason to vote D again once the revamped DNC stops moving left and actually develops a platform other than promising free give aways (at the expense at those who actually work) and calling everyone a Nazi/fascist/xxx-ist.

As far as big tent, apparently you haven't kept an eye on the polls. My fellow Brown folk are buying into the Trump Train and that should scare the **** out of the DNC. Hint: just like anyone else, we like keeping our hard earned money in our pocket. It's the economy stupid.

They're going to have to come up with a way to distinguish them from the rest of the deportees. Until then its probably best to be seen as a very vocal supporter of Trump if you aren't white. Don't be afraid to lay it on thick. But you should probably stay way from the rallies because they may fuck you up nicely before you have a chance to prove that you're one of the good mud people.

You do realize that the open border protests have only backfired on the DNC right? You realize that illegal labor doesn't selectively take only jobs from white people right?

Again, good luck with the neo-Marxist agenda...oh look, Venezuela.

[93henfan]

SDHornet is my second favorite mud person!

[Baldy]

SDHornet is my second favorite mud person!

2nd?

[93henfan]

SDHornet is my second favorite mud person!

2nd?

Flaggy is my fave!

[CAA Flagship]

2nd?

Flaggy is my fave!

My people appreciate the recognition we deserve.

[93henfan]

Flaggy is my fave!

My people appreciate the recognition we deserve.

Just a side note: Delaware claimed a family of five from Jersey on Friday on Rt 1 coming back from the beach. It was a Maryland driver who caused it, but we still get credit.

Serious face: Terrible story. Dad and four daughters gone. Mom lived. I don’t think they were Eyetalian. Watching the news, they looked Hispanic or some version of Yellow maybe.

[kalm]

The problem with this (and JSO's views/ideas(?)) is that what is the alternative for the supposed "conservatives" suppose to be? The DNC is moving further left at breakneck speed (in case you missed it Perez claimed that socialism is the future of the party as demonstrated by the Ocasio Cortez win ). Right now the Repub tent is big...very big. So unless "conservatives" want to go 3rd party or start their own fringe right wing party then there is really no viable alternative for them.

I tried to warn you about Bernie - you should probably keep an eye on this lady.

How the DNC receives and treats her is going to have a bigly effect on the number of third party and stay home voters on the left. It sounds like Perez recognizes that and is at least paying lip service until they can figure out a way to marginalize her.


And the "big" Republican tent...