The Democratic Party...

[JohnStOnge]

If the GOP is only 30% of population, how is that they have over 30 governors, and sole control of over 30 statehouse? Give this nonsense up,

I've written before that, because of our system, gerrymandering, etc., we have a situation in which a minority controls government. You can look at the routine Gallup poll on party affiliation at https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/part ... ation.aspx and see that 27% of respondents considered themselves Republican in the latest poll. Democrats aren't much better off at 29%.

Independents are at 43%; which is why it's not good news for Trump that Independents, who did for some unfathomable reason favor him by a narrow margin on 2016 election day, do not favor him now.

You can also look at other polls to get an idea. Like for instance the latest one up at RealClearPolitics for Trump Job Approval is the NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. It has 24% identifying as Republican, 31% identifying as Democrat, and 35% identifying as Independent.

Both polls have higher percentages of people who are Democrat or lean Democrat than people who are Republican or lean Republican. 47% to 42% in the Gallup poll and 40% to 36% in the NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. Not large margins. But this is a very consistent result among many polls.

Republicans control the government. But overall public sentiment is on the side of the Democrats. It's an artifact of the system we have. You can say it's good or you can say it's bad. But we are witnessing a time in US history where our system is allowing minority overall sentiment to control the government.

[Ivytalk]

Constitutional conservative. Not.

Do you ever bother to think about the underlying idiocy of this line of thinking? If you disenfranchise the Trump voters, we’d get statist, anti-Liberty social policies out the wazoo from the low information voters of the left. But that’s OK with you, because you’re one of them.

I SAID "we can't."

Yeah, but you wish you could. The wish is father to the thought. Dumbazz.

[CAA Flagship]

In all your analysis, you forget one thing: Donks have to find a reasonable candidate to put up. And they need to stop stepping on their dicks calling half the country "deplorables", etc., etc. Donks just can't help themselves from poking the bear. They need to stop moving more and more left--which they're doubling down on, by the way. They need to stop with the violent, rigid "you're either 100% with us, or you're against us" mentality. Americans (of ALL colors, outside of the strongholds like CA, NY, WA, OR & Northeast) are waking up to the facts regarding where the donk vision would take the country...and they're not liking what they're seeing. And comparing what McCain and Bush got from the Hispanic vote is comical. Both come from border states and are highly visible with the Hispanic population. Bush is fluent in Spanish (well, as fluent as he can be in any language). Romney came from Utah. Trump came from....wherever Trumps come from.

The violence and rigidity from the Democratic Party is truly frightening!!!!!!!!!




Why...if we’re not careful, we we could run head long into the second wave of a mixed economy with adequate military spending, reasonable banking regulation, and a social safety net!!!!!

[SDHornet]

Just felt this thread needed a little comic relief:

[AZGrizFan]

In all your analysis, you forget one thing: Donks have to find a reasonable candidate to put up. And they need to stop stepping on their dicks calling half the country "deplorables", etc., etc. Donks just can't help themselves from poking the bear. They need to stop moving more and more left--which they're doubling down on, by the way. They need to stop with the violent, rigid "you're either 100% with us, or you're against us" mentality. Americans (of ALL colors, outside of the strongholds like CA, NY, WA, OR & Northeast) are waking up to the facts regarding where the donk vision would take the country...and they're not liking what they're seeing. And comparing what McCain and Bush got from the Hispanic vote is comical. Both come from border states and are highly visible with the Hispanic population. Bush is fluent in Spanish (well, as fluent as he can be in any language). Romney came from Utah. Trump came from....wherever Trumps come from.

The violence and rigidity from the Democratic Party is truly frightening!!!!!!!!!




Why...if we’re not careful, we we could run head long into the second wave of a mixed economy with adequate military spending, reasonable banking regulation, and a social safety net!!!!!

There’s no danger of reasonableness from current donk leadership. It’s so far left it’s gone off a cliff.

[SDHornet]

The violence and rigidity from the Democratic Party is truly frightening!!!!!!!!!




Why...if we’re not careful, we we could run head long into the second wave of a mixed economy with adequate military spending, reasonable banking regulation, and a social safety net!!!!!

There’s no danger of reasonableness from current donk leadership. It’s so far left it’s gone off a cliff.

This. Any donk politico that takes a "moderate" stance will get vilified and lumped in with the rest of the "deplorables". The leftist train wreck is well on its way to terminal velocity (which I don't think will hit until after Trump wins re-election in 2020).

[AZGrizFan]

There’s no danger of reasonableness from current donk leadership. It’s so far left it’s gone off a cliff.

This. Any donk politico that takes a "moderate" stance will get vilified and lumped in with the rest of the "deplorables". The leftist train wreck is well on its way to terminal velocity (which I don't think will hit until after Trump wins re-election in 2020).

Yep. And if they think he’s off the rails now, wait until he doesnt’ have to worry about reelection.

[Ivytalk]

In all your analysis, you forget one thing: Donks have to find a reasonable candidate to put up. And they need to stop stepping on their dicks calling half the country "deplorables", etc., etc. Donks just can't help themselves from poking the bear. They need to stop moving more and more left--which they're doubling down on, by the way. They need to stop with the violent, rigid "you're either 100% with us, or you're against us" mentality. Americans (of ALL colors, outside of the strongholds like CA, NY, WA, OR & Northeast) are waking up to the facts regarding where the donk vision would take the country...and they're not liking what they're seeing. And comparing what McCain and Bush got from the Hispanic vote is comical. Both come from border states and are highly visible with the Hispanic population. Bush is fluent in Spanish (well, as fluent as he can be in any language). Romney came from Utah. Trump came from....wherever Trumps come from.

The violence and rigidity from the Democratic Party is truly frightening!!!!!!!!!




Why...if we’re not careful, we we could run head long into the second wave of a mixed economy with adequate military spending, reasonable banking regulation, and a social safety net!!!!!

That may be your worst non sequitur ever.

[houndawg]

In all your analysis, you forget one thing: Donks have to find a reasonable candidate to put up. And they need to stop stepping on their dicks calling half the country "deplorables", etc., etc. Donks just can't help themselves from poking the bear. They need to stop moving more and more left--which they're doubling down on, by the way. They need to stop with the violent, rigid "you're either 100% with us, or you're against us" mentality. Americans (of ALL colors, outside of the strongholds like CA, NY, WA, OR & Northeast) are waking up to the facts regarding where the donk vision would take the country...and they're not liking what they're seeing. And comparing what McCain and Bush got from the Hispanic vote is comical. Both come from border states and are highly visible with the Hispanic population. Bush is fluent in Spanish (well, as fluent as he can be in any language). Romney came from Utah. Trump came from....wherever Trumps come from.

The violence and rigidity from the Democratic Party is truly frightening!!!!!!!!!




Why...if we’re not careful, we we could run head long into the second wave of a mixed economy with adequate military spending, reasonable banking regulation, and a social safety net!!!!!

Especially if the Democrats start nominating Democrats for office.

[CID1990]

The violence and rigidity from the Democratic Party is truly frightening!!!!!!!!!




Why...if we’re not careful, we we could run head long into the second wave of a mixed economy with adequate military spending, reasonable banking regulation, and a social safety net!!!!!

That may be your worst non sequitur ever.

I don’t know... he has quite the cryptic library of them

It’s hard to decide on the worst (best)

[kalm]

The violence and rigidity from the Democratic Party is truly frightening!!!!!!!!!




Why...if we’re not careful, we we could run head long into the second wave of a mixed economy with adequate military spending, reasonable banking regulation, and a social safety net!!!!!

That may be your worst non sequitur ever.

You should try reading the post I was replying to.

[AZGrizFan]

The violence and rigidity from the Democratic Party is truly frightening!!!!!!!!!




Why...if we’re not careful, we we could run head long into the second wave of a mixed economy with adequate military spending, reasonable banking regulation, and a social safety net!!!!!

Especially if the Democrats start nominating Democrats for office.

If you think THAT is the direction the Donk party is headed, you REALLY haven't been paying attention.

[Ibanez]

Especially if the Democrats start nominating Democrats for office.

If you think THAT is the direction the Donk party is headed, you REALLY haven't been paying attention.

Liberals, like Conservatives, are an endangered species. If you have a spine like Mark Sanford, you'll be voted out for someone that doesn't mind suckling on Trumps teets.

Same goes for any liberal that doesn't tote the traditional, party line.

[css75]

There’s no danger of reasonableness from current donk leadership. It’s so far left it’s gone off a cliff.

This. Any donk politico that takes a "moderate" stance will get vilified and lumped in with the rest of the "deplorables". The leftist train wreck is well on its way to terminal velocity (which I don't think will hit until after Trump wins re-election in 2020).

What is the political climate in SAC these days? Have been gone a few years.


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[Col Hogan]

If you think THAT is the direction the Donk party is headed, you REALLY haven't been paying attention.

Liberals, like Conservatives, are an endangered species. If you have a spine like Mark Sanford, you'll be voted out for someone that doesn't mind suckling on Trumps teets.

Same goes for any liberal that doesn't tote the traditional, party line.

The traditional DEM party line isn’`t acceptable anymore...

No, the Democratic Socialists of America will be writing the planks for the DIMS in 2020...

[houndawg]

Especially if the Democrats start nominating Democrats for office.

If you think THAT is the direction the Donk party is headed, you REALLY haven't been paying attention.

I've only been squawking about the nazi-run DNC ever since Bernie announced.

Fvcking halfwit.

[houndawg]

If you think THAT is the direction the Donk party is headed, you REALLY haven't been paying attention.

Liberals, like Conservatives, are an endangered species. If you have a spine like Mark Sanford, you'll be voted out for someone that doesn't mind suckling on Trumps teets.

Same goes for any liberal that doesn't tote the traditional, party line.

That was a hard on, not a spine.

[houndawg]

This. Any donk politico that takes a "moderate" stance will get vilified and lumped in with the rest of the "deplorables". The leftist train wreck is well on its way to terminal velocity (which I don't think will hit until after Trump wins re-election in 2020).

What is the political climate in SAC these days? Have been gone a few years.


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About what you'd expect from the capital of the 6th largest economy in the world I'd guess. I haven't been there since the population was under 250,000 and Rocklin was 30 minutes away through open pasture..

[AZGrizFan]

What is the political climate in SAC these days? Have been gone a few years.


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About what you'd expect from the capital of the 6th largest economy in the world I'd guess. I haven't been there since the population was under 250,000 and Rocklin was 30 minutes away through open pasture..

But yet you've got your finger on the pulse of their political climate?

[JohnStOnge]

I SAID "we can't."

Yeah, but you wish you could. The wish is father to the thought. Dumbazz.

I think a wish is the offspring of thought. But that doesn't matter. When I say "we can't" I mean we can't because we have to stick to certain principles even when the idea of discarding them is very tempting. In principle, I don't think people should be excluded from voting just because they voted in a stupid way last time.

[Ivytalk]

Yeah, but you wish you could. The wish is father to the thought. Dumbazz.

I think a wish is the offspring of thought. But that doesn't matter. When I say "we can't" I mean we can't because we have to stick to certain principles even when the idea of discarding them is very tempting. In principle, I don't think people should be excluded from voting just because they voted in a stupid way last time.

You’re walking that back better than Trump did after Helsinki!

[css75]

Yeah, but you wish you could. The wish is father to the thought. Dumbazz.

I think a wish is the offspring of thought. But that doesn't matter. When I say "we can't" I mean we can't because we have to stick to certain principles even when the idea of discarding them is very tempting. In principle, I don't think people should be excluded from voting just because they voted in a stupid way last time.

They voted wisely last time, it was 2008 and 2012 when they were stupid,


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[CAA Flagship]

I think a wish is the offspring of thought. But that doesn't matter. When I say "we can't" I mean we can't because we have to stick to certain principles even when the idea of discarding them is very tempting. In principle, I don't think people should be excluded from voting just because they voted in a stupid way last time.

They voted wisely last time, it was 2008 and 2012 when they were stupid,


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Nah. In 2008, a voter had every right to want to go in a different direction.
2012 was a different story. That WAS stupid.

[Skjellyfetti]

They voted wisely last time, it was 2008 and 2012 when they were stupid,


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Nah. In 2008, a voter had every right to want to go in a different direction.
2012 was a different story. That WAS stupid.

You don't remember Sarah Palin?

Don't think you even see much difference between McCain and Obama now.

[∞∞∞]

Nah. In 2008, a voter had every right to want to go in a different direction.
2012 was a different story. That WAS stupid.

You don't remember Sarah Palin?

Don't think you even see much difference between McCain and Obama now.

Obama will go down as one of the greats; 100% guarantee there'll be a memorial for him on the Mall.

And Trump's casket will probably get spit on as it lies in repose.

History tends to be very unkind to people like Trump.