How will Donald Trump change politics and the presidency?

[CID1990]

Spend it or lose it is definitely a problem but procurement is where we get 200 dollar hammers -

Our consular systems are a hodge podge of terrible platforms, all designed by different vendors (the system I use was designed by a company that had never done anything remotely related to software design... they made the low bid and THEN they started a subsidiary to actually code the system

We could have gone to Microsoft or Apple for a comprehensive platform for 1/4th the overall price and it would last for 30 years with only small tweaks

but there are rules preventing us from going to just one vendor for all our systems

so we get the Chinese fire drill version


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DoS procurement is notoriously bad. Even worse than us. You guys could **** up a wet dream. I just read an IG report on one of your construction projects in Afghanistan and it was flabbergasting. Like, I know your construction contracting officers aren’t engineers, but c’mon. No smoke detectors in a prison. That was just the first finding I saw that made me say OMFG.

Lol State.

Also, State is trying to partner with us on IT reform and our guys are like, not only no, but hell no.

We are all Microsoft for OS and all Google for mail. It works well.

BTW

WTH is DoS building a prison in Afghanistan? Is that an INL project?


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[CAA Flagship]

It might also be enlightening for the public to see the black dollars spent.

[kalm]

Gannon is solidly to the right on economics. He's further right than you are in the category.

I'm certainly to the right on economics, but not anywhere close to the libertarian extreme right. And on most social issues, I'm decidedly to the left. Tell me again how I'm not a centrist overall.

So you're conservative who's ok with gay marriage.

Thanks, Dick Cheney.

[UNI88]

I'm certainly to the right on economics, but not anywhere close to the libertarian extreme right. And on most social issues, I'm decidedly to the left. Tell me again how I'm not a centrist overall.

So you're conservative who's ok with gay marriage.

Thanks, Dick Cheney.

You might need to go back and review Ganny's body of work. He's right of me on some things and left of me on others. I'm not sure how I could be a centrist and he isn't. No less authority than IvyTalk placed Ganny squarely in the mushy middle with me.

[kalm]

So you're conservative who's ok with gay marriage.

Thanks, Dick Cheney.

You might need to go back and review Ganny's body of work. He's right of me on some things and left of me on others. I'm not sure how I could be a centrist and he isn't. No less authority than IvyTalk placed Ganny squarely in the mushy middle with me.

1) The Cheney comment was just me taking a little shot. Truth be told, I respect Ganny and look forward to his posts. I just happen to think he's illiberal when it comes trade, campaign finance, monopolistic practices, and corporatism.

2) I think competition is THE major economic driver (and agree with Ganny's thoughts regarding innovation as it goes hand in hand with competition).

3) It think government is too big and needs to be more limited.

4) I think government is the ultimate monopoly.

5) Political centrism is less meaningful than independent thought. I think many of the posters on this board are better described as independents than centrists including you and Ganny.

[93henfan]

DoS procurement is notoriously bad. Even worse than us. You guys could **** up a wet dream. I just read an IG report on one of your construction projects in Afghanistan and it was flabbergasting. Like, I know your construction contracting officers aren’t engineers, but c’mon. No smoke detectors in a prison. That was just the first finding I saw that made me say OMFG.

Lol State.

Also, State is trying to partner with us on IT reform and our guys are like, not only no, but hell no.

We are all Microsoft for OS and all Google for mail. It works well.

BTW

WTH is DoS building a prison in Afghanistan? Is that an INL project?


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Yep. Shooting you a PM.

[UNI88]

You might need to go back and review Ganny's body of work. He's right of me on some things and left of me on others. I'm not sure how I could be a centrist and he isn't. No less authority than IvyTalk placed Ganny squarely in the mushy middle with me.

1) The Cheney comment was just me taking a little shot. Truth be told, I respect Ganny and look forward to his posts. I just happen to think he's illiberal when it comes trade, campaign finance, monopolistic practices, and corporatism.

2) I think competition is THE major economic driver (and agree with Ganny's thoughts regarding innovation as it goes hand in hand with competition).

3) It think government is too big and needs to be more limited.

4) I think government is the ultimate monopoly.

5) Political centrism is less meaningful than independent thought. I think many of the posters on this board are better described as independents than centrists including you and Ganny.

fyi - Ganny was the 2nd poster to mention innovation ...

[Chizzang]

5) Political centrism is less meaningful than independent thought. I think many of the posters on this board are better described as independents than centrists including you and Ganny.

JSO made this observation many years ago...
He was bemoaning how Centrists were congratulating themselves around here a bit too frequently
and pointed out (accurately) that actually "Thinking" was more important than appearing to be centrist



We could all learn a few things from JSO...

[css75]

5) Political centrism is less meaningful than independent thought. I think many of the posters on this board are better described as independents than centrists including you and Ganny.

JSO made this observation many years ago...
He was bemoaning how Centrists were congratulating themselves around here a bit too frequently
and pointed out (accurately) that actually "Thinking" was more important than appearing to be centrist



We could all learn a few things from JSO...

That is scary.


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[UNI88]

5) Political centrism is less meaningful than independent thought. I think many of the posters on this board are better described as independents than centrists including you and Ganny.

JSO made this observation many years ago...
He was bemoaning how Centrists were congratulating themselves around here a bit too frequently
and pointed out (accurately) that actually "Thinking" was more important than appearing to be centrist



We could all learn a few things from JSO...

He was and still is right. Ironically he stopped thinking.

[93henfan]

Ironically he stopped thinking.

Primary symptom of TDS.

[kalm]

5) Political centrism is less meaningful than independent thought. I think many of the posters on this board are better described as independents than centrists including you and Ganny.

JSO made this observation many years ago...
He was bemoaning how Centrists were congratulating themselves around here a bit too frequently
and pointed out (accurately) that actually "Thinking" was more important than appearing to be centrist



We could all learn a few things from JSO...

[CID1990]

He's got Dems threatening ICE over passport seizures in fraud cases



Which is ignorant on several levels

Not the least of which is that ICE does not adjudicate citizenship, nor do they revoke passports


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[93henfan]

Come on over to my house "when the worm turns", Ruben. You'll make good target practice. For one shot anyway.

[UNI88]

JSO made this observation many years ago...
He was bemoaning how Centrists were congratulating themselves around here a bit too frequently
and pointed out (accurately) that actually "Thinking" was more important than appearing to be centrist



We could all learn a few things from JSO...

I don't get the JSO love and admiration fest from you two. I agree with most of the negative stuff he writes about Trump but he is unable to acknowledge any positives attributable to Trump and he rationalizes and minimizes the negatives related to Trump's past and current nemeses. His emotions cloud his judgement regarding Trump and the bias is obvious.

[CID1990]

Come on over to my house "when the worm turns", Ruben. You'll make good target practice. For one shot anyway.

The easy response is to ask him what illegal acts USCIS and Consular officials are committing, and then give him as much time as he needs to answer the question.

BTW he has already walked this back with a big ol straw man tweet... saying Federal public servants are not above the law (well duh... unless they are of exalted rank, of course)


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[AZGrizFan]

-When a manager makes 150K and gets 2% of his projects' profits, and instead of paying that extra $5000 an employee could really do with, he pockets the savings. This hurts America.
-When a locality agrees to a time & material NTE contract, the contractors work slowly to get as close to the limit instead of saving the community money to invest elsewhere. This hurts America.
-When someone does a good job but gets stiffed because they can't afford lawyers. This hurts America.
-And the examples go on and on and on.
.

STILL waiting, trip. How much of your salary have you donated to those below you in the pecking order of your company? Why won’t you stop hurting America? Put your fucking money where your mouth is.

...and the stupidity goes on and on and on....

[Chizzang]

I don't get the JSO love and admiration fest from you two. I agree with most of the negative stuff he writes about Trump but he is unable to acknowledge any positives attributable to Trump and he rationalizes and minimizes the negatives related to Trump's past and current nemeses. His emotions cloud his judgement regarding Trump and the bias is obvious.

At no point have I ever been confused about JSO's inability to recognize positive aspects of Trump...
But he is principled - even when I disagree with about 75% of his opinions

My love and admiration for JSO is simple

In the face of his party winning at any cost (and they did)
he is remorseful at the Conservative Right surrendering the moral high ground
for 4 years of chaos and insanity...

A point a scant few Conservatives seem to be just now grasping



Once your Party has launched a whore mongering mobster surrounded by felons bilking the system
You can never go back to chanting: "We're the right party for American values"

[UNI88]

I don't get the JSO love and admiration fest from you two. I agree with most of the negative stuff he writes about Trump but he is unable to acknowledge any positives attributable to Trump and he rationalizes and minimizes the negatives related to Trump's past and current nemeses. His emotions cloud his judgement regarding Trump and the bias is obvious.

At no point have I ever been confused about JSO's inability to recognize positive aspects of Trump...
But he is principled - even when I disagree with about 75% of his opinions

My love and admiration for JSO is simple

In the face of his party winning at any cost (and they did)
he is remorseful at the Conservative Right surrendering the moral high ground
for 4 years of chaos and insanity...

A point a scant few Conservatives seem to be just now grasping



Once your Party has launched a whore mongering mobster surrounded by felons bilking the system
You can never go back to chanting: "We're the right party for American values"

Biased and myopic ≠ principled.

I stopped buying the Republican "American values" pitch long before Trump so that hypocrisy didn't surprise me. It's about power plain and simple and unfortunately I don't think we've yet reached the depths of how much either party will overlook in the interest of gaining and holding power.

[Chizzang]

At no point have I ever been confused about JSO's inability to recognize positive aspects of Trump...
But he is principled - even when I disagree with about 75% of his opinions

My love and admiration for JSO is simple

In the face of his party winning at any cost (and they did)
he is remorseful at the Conservative Right surrendering the moral high ground
for 4 years of chaos and insanity...

A point a scant few Conservatives seem to be just now grasping



Once your Party has launched a whore mongering mobster surrounded by felons bilking the system
You can never go back to chanting: "We're the right party for American values"

Biased and myopic ≠ principled.

I stopped buying the Republican "American values" pitch long before Trump so that hypocrisy didn't surprise me. It's about power plain and simple and unfortunately I don't think we've yet reached the depths of how much either party will overlook in the interest of gaining and holding power.

Meh...
We're all biased and myopic

And the fact that YOU stopped buying the pitch is irrelevant
For one of the two National parties to just completely toss the high ground into the fire should be alarming
Particularly the party that affiliates itself with Faith and a higher moral standing

Anybody who's been watching the slow motion train wreck of this past few years
could not have predicted whore mongering and bank fraud would become "Nothing Burgers"

[AZGrizFan]

Was that before or after killing ambassadors and rigging elections became nothing burgers?

It’s hard to keep up....

[Chizzang]

Was that before or after killing ambassadors and rigging elections became nothing burgers?

It’s hard to keep up....

Rigging elections and killing ambassadors...
Please go on - using actual time line information and facts (not Alex Jones please)

Because me thinks you're trying a bit too hard

[css75]

-When a manager makes 150K and gets 2% of his projects' profits, and instead of paying that extra $5000 an employee could really do with, he pockets the savings. This hurts America.
-When a locality agrees to a time & material NTE contract, the contractors work slowly to get as close to the limit instead of saving the community money to invest elsewhere. This hurts America.
-When someone does a good job but gets stiffed because they can't afford lawyers. This hurts America.
-And the examples go on and on and on.
.

STILL waiting, trip. How much of your salary have you donated to those below you in the pecking order of your company? Why won’t you stop hurting America? Put your **** money where your mouth is.

...and the stupidity goes on and on and on....

I hope you don’t expect him to answer this. Libs flee when confronted with facts and truth.


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[Chizzang]

I hope you don’t expect him to answer this. Libs flee when confronted with facts and truth.

Said the Trump fan



That might be better than: Bad mouthing success limits wealth

This board is on fire lately !!!

[AZGrizFan]

Was that before or after killing ambassadors and rigging elections became nothing burgers?

It’s hard to keep up....

Rigging elections and killing ambassadors...
Please go on - using actual time line information and facts (not Alex Jones please)

Because me thinks you're trying a bit too hard

It’s been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt they sat there and let the ambassador and everyone else there get killed in Libya without sending available reinforcements, then knowingly lied about the circumstances for weeks in the press to ensure it didn’t fuck up Obama’s 2nd term election (timing is everything, right?)

It’s also a known, public fact that the DNC rigged their party’s election to ensure the nomination of Hildabeast over Sanders. You should really get out more...this is like shooting fish in a barrel.

But hey, to quote the bitch herself, “what difference, at this point, does it make?”