Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
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Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
Another day.....another red meat attack on our U.S. Constitution.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteent ... nstitution
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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
If we're going to view the constitution as a living, breathing document that needs to keep up with the times, we need to acknowledge birthright citizenship makes no sense in a time when oceans can be crossed in hours and not months.
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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
And if that is the view you are taking then the 2nd Ammendment is on deck.Pwns wrote:If we're going to view the constitution as a living, breathing document that needs to keep up with the times, we need to acknowledge birthright citizenship makes no sense in a time when oceans can be crossed in hours and not months.
I'm actually glad that Trump is changing the rules for future Democratic Presidents & Congresses.
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That's a slippery slope. I'm not sure what the duration of a trip has to do with the law.Pwns wrote:If we're going to view the constitution as a living, breathing document that needs to keep up with the times, we need to acknowledge birthright citizenship makes no sense in a time when oceans can be crossed in hours and not months.
And where are the Republicans that were bitching about Obama's use of the EO to get things accomplished? This is just a trick to fire up the base.
MJ is right...
God...that felt weird saying that.
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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
1) Trump has said he'd do stuff before through a EO and never followed through
2) I think this is something to fire up the "Republican" base
3) I would think the USSC would strike it down as unconstitutional if it ever did come to pass
2) I think this is something to fire up the "Republican" base
3) I would think the USSC would strike it down as unconstitutional if it ever did come to pass
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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
/ThreadPwns wrote:If we're going to view the constitution as a living, breathing document that needs to keep up with the times, we need to acknowledge birthright citizenship makes no sense in a time when oceans can be crossed in hours and not months.
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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
Have fun trying to take Americans' guns.mainejeff wrote:And if that is the view you are taking then the 2nd Ammendment is on deck.Pwns wrote:If we're going to view the constitution as a living, breathing document that needs to keep up with the times, we need to acknowledge birthright citizenship makes no sense in a time when oceans can be crossed in hours and not months.
I'm actually glad that Trump is changing the rules for future Democratic Presidents & Congresses.
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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
I'm not going to be the one taking them.93henfan wrote:Have fun trying to take Americans' guns.mainejeff wrote:
And if that is the view you are taking then the 2nd Ammendment is on deck.
I'm actually glad that Trump is changing the rules for future Democratic Presidents & Congresses.
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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
Pretty obvious distraction.
"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
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No doubt. It's pretty comical watching everyone else get worked up. At least your BS filter still works.Skjellyfetti wrote:Pretty obvious distraction.
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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
This ^ attitude is the single most dangerous attitude any citizen can have about that document...Pwns wrote:If we're going to view the constitution as a living, breathing document that needs to keep up with the times, we need to acknowledge birthright citizenship makes no sense in a time when oceans can be crossed in hours and not months.
Everything is in play with that kind of take - everything
You won't like the outcomes further down the line
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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
So I get to keep my ARs and AKs? I love you!Chizzang wrote:This ^ attitude is the single most dangerous attitude any citizen can have about that document...Pwns wrote:If we're going to view the constitution as a living, breathing document that needs to keep up with the times, we need to acknowledge birthright citizenship makes no sense in a time when oceans can be crossed in hours and not months.
Everything is in play with that kind of take - everything
You won't like the outcomes further down the line
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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship
Originalism means getting rid of the majority of federal government agencies (including those that actually are useful). Infinite constitutional malleability means the feds can do whatever the hell they want. Pick your poision. It's probably well past time to re-write the thing, but that might just make things worse and if passing a budget is an ordeal getting a new constitution is impossible.Chizzang wrote:This ^ attitude is the single most dangerous attitude any citizen can have about that document...Pwns wrote:If we're going to view the constitution as a living, breathing document that needs to keep up with the times, we need to acknowledge birthright citizenship makes no sense in a time when oceans can be crossed in hours and not months.
Everything is in play with that kind of take - everything
You won't like the outcomes further down the line
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They love to use Axios for this kind of "scoop."93henfan wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:Pretty obvious distraction.
Rosenstein resigning comes immediately to mind... But, there are plenty of others.
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All I know...Pwns wrote:Originalism means getting rid of the majority of federal government agencies (including those that actually are useful). Infinite constitutional malleability means the feds can do whatever the hell they want. Pick your poision. It's probably well past time to re-write the thing, but that might just make things worse and if passing a budget is an ordeal getting a new constitution is impossible.Chizzang wrote:
This ^ attitude is the single most dangerous attitude any citizen can have about that document...
Everything is in play with that kind of take - everything
You won't like the outcomes further down the line
is if at some point in the future
we get a Liberal in the white house you'd be unhappy with their suggestions regarding modifications
It's just an ugly can of maggots to open
And don't confuse me with somebody who cares about babies born here
if he takes that away it has zero effect on me
in fact I urge Trump to "go for it"
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mainejeff wrote:And if that is the view you are taking then the 2nd Ammendment is on deck.Pwns wrote:If we're going to view the constitution as a living, breathing document that needs to keep up with the times, we need to acknowledge birthright citizenship makes no sense in a time when oceans can be crossed in hours and not months.
I'm actually glad that Trump is changing the rules for future Democratic Presidents & Congresses.
Hes not doing one fucking thing Obama didnt do.
Do whatever you want with the 2nd amendment, I dont care because I will never follow any of the gun laws. In fact walking around the town I am in right now I am breaking several by my concealed carry.
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Said every pussy left winger in America..................mainejeff wrote:I'm not going to be the one taking them.93henfan wrote:
Have fun trying to take Americans' guns.
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Well La-dee-da.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:mainejeff wrote:
And if that is the view you are taking then the 2nd Ammendment is on deck.
I'm actually glad that Trump is changing the rules for future Democratic Presidents & Congresses.
Hes not doing one **** thing Obama didnt do.
Do whatever you want with the 2nd amendment, I dont care because I will never follow any of the gun laws. In fact walking around the town I am in right now I am breaking several by my concealed carry.
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I obey laws. It's not my job.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Said every pussy left winger in America..................mainejeff wrote:
I'm not going to be the one taking them.
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It’s obviously unconstitutional. If you want to repeal the portion of the 14th Amendment that stands in the way, have at it.
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You're giving him too much credit. He's just an idiot. Unfortunately we have millions of idiots who are in his cult.93henfan wrote:No doubt. It's pretty comical watching everyone else get worked up. At least your BS filter still works.Skjellyfetti wrote:Pretty obvious distraction.
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Nobody is going to hear a word about this after the midterms-
Ivy is right - there’s no way a President can switch off the Constitution by fiat
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I support him and I'm not an idiot. The alternative was far worse.JohnStOnge wrote:You're giving him too much credit. He's just an idiot. Unfortunately we have millions of idiots who are in his cult.93henfan wrote:
No doubt. It's pretty comical watching everyone else get worked up. At least your BS filter still works.
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That's a fact. You're an idiot for a completely different reason.93henfan wrote:I support him and I'm not an idiot. The alternative was far worse.JohnStOnge wrote:
You're giving him too much credit. He's just an idiot. Unfortunately we have millions of idiots who are in his cult.
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Hey what happened to the TRUMP STOCK MARKET thread...
I just read that it's 300 points below where it was when he took office
I just read that it's 300 points below where it was when he took office
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