2018 NFL Season Thread

[GannonFan]

Yes, the cowboys having all of 2 playoff wins (and not even in the same year) since 1996 (that's 21 years, or 1 playoff win for every 10.5 years) were flukes as well.

[Chizzang]

Yes, the cowboys having all of 2 playoff wins (and not even in the same year) since 1996 (that's 21 years, or 1 playoff win for every 10.5 years) were flukes as well.

Well it sure looks like the Cowboys are going to win the NFC East
The Eagles put up a good fight - but it looks like the Cowboys are back

the Amari Cooper trade is looking like a good deal
Zeke is still in his bargain years
Dak is still in his bargain years

and the Cowboys will have $48 million in cap space after winning the division
The Eagles are projected to be -$13 Mil (over cap)



I don't think the Cowboys would trade their position with any of their NFC East competitors right now

[Chizzang]

Division leaders projected Cap Space 2019

Texans $70 Mil 2019
Dallas $48 Mil 2019
KC $42 Mil 2019
Rams $37 Mil 2019
NE $25 Mil 2019
Chicago $19 Mil 2019
Steelers $18 Mil 2019
Saints $15 Mil 2019


Jacksonville and Philadelphia are the only two teams projected to be "over cap" in 2019

[GannonFan]

Yes, the cowboys having all of 2 playoff wins (and not even in the same year) since 1996 (that's 21 years, or 1 playoff win for every 10.5 years) were flukes as well.

Well it sure looks like the Cowboys are going to win the NFC East
The Eagles put up a good fight - but it looks like the Cowboys are back

the Amari Cooper trade is looking like a good deal for both parties
Zeke is still in his bargain years
Dak is still in his bargain years

and the Cowboys will have $48 million in cap space after winning the division
The Eagles are projected to be -$13 Mil (over cap)



I don't think the Cowboys would trade their position with any of their NFC East competitors right now

Back to what exactly? Are you saying they are Super Bowl contenders this year? Playoffs is nice, winning something in the playoffs is something the cowboys haven't done a lot of for more than two decades now. Considering they'll be playing in the wild card round this time around, the odds of them even reaching an NFC title game (i.e. win at home against Seattle and then win on the road in either LA or New Orleans), again, a game they haven't played in since 1996, look pretty dim.

As for the contracts, Zeke will be on the last year of his contract in 2019 (club option in 2020 but we've seen how RB's love being underpaid in the last year of the contract)- how much of a bargain will that be and are they willing to not re-sign him early and let him test the market? Dak will always be in his bargain years because he's a bargain QB, but he's in a contract year next year so when do they re-up him? And Amari Cooper is coming up on the end of his contract as well after the 2019 season (same time that Zeke is due) - both those guys will be renegotiating off of rookie contracts and into "franchise savior" contracts. Oh, and a good third of that cap room is due to Lawrence being a free agent next year after making $17M this year - are the Cowboys letting him go free or are they going to resign him? Is he taking a pay cut? Oh, and Beasley is a FA after this year so there's more money to resign. $48M, when you have tons of your own players to resign, especially younger players (at RB, QB, and WR) all coming off of rookie deals, goes away really quickly in the NFL.

[GannonFan]

Division leaders projected Cap Space 2019

Texans $70 Mil 2019
Dallas $48 Mil 2019
KC $42 Mil 2019
Rams $37 Mil 2019
NE $25 Mil 2019
Chicago $19 Mil 2019
Steelers $18 Mil 2019
Saints $15 Mil 2019


Jacksonville and Philadelphia are the only two teams projected to be "over cap" in 2019

Eagles drop $14M from their salary when and if they cut Jason Peters and Nick Foles. I'm not sure Peters will be able to walk next year anyway and Foles was a luxury to have around this year considering Wentz was rehabbing all off-season.

[GannonFan]

Btw, general rule of thumb in the NFL is that no team can pay everybody. Projected cap space just means you haven't filled your roster out yet (i.e. haven't paid your own pending free agents nor have signed new guys to replace them).

[CAA Flagship]

Division leaders projected Cap Space 2019

Texans $70 Mil 2019
Dallas $48 Mil 2019
KC $42 Mil 2019
Rams $37 Mil 2019
NE $25 Mil 2019
Chicago $19 Mil 2019
Steelers $18 Mil 2019
Saints $15 Mil 2019


Jacksonville and Philadelphia are the only two teams projected to be "over cap" in 2019

Eagles drop $14M from their salary when and if they cut Jason Peters and Nick Foles. I'm not sure Peters will be able to walk next year anyway and Foles was a luxury to have around this year considering Wentz was rehabbing all off-season.

"Having a worthy backup QB, or three, is valuable."
- Washington Redskins 2018

[GannonFan]

Eagles drop $14M from their salary when and if they cut Jason Peters and Nick Foles. I'm not sure Peters will be able to walk next year anyway and Foles was a luxury to have around this year considering Wentz was rehabbing all off-season.

"Having a worthy backup QB, or three, is valuable."
- Washington Redskins 2018

No doubt, if the money is there then by all means. I don't think the Eagles will have that luxury, though. They like Sudfeld, and he hasn't looked horrible when he has played (pre-season). I wouldn't imagine that Foles is still here next year.

[Grizalltheway]

So the Giants two Super Bowl wins over NE were flukes too? Roger that.

Ten games on a neutral field, how many do you think the 2007 Giants win against the 2007 Pats? How about last year's Eagles vs last year's Patriots?

[dbackjon]

I would imagine, given the shortness of NFL careers, that Zeke will demand a new contract this offseason. Cooper as well.

[Chizzang]

So the Giants two Super Bowl wins over NE were flukes too? Roger that.

Ten games on a neutral field, how many do you think the 2007 Giants win against the 2007 Pats? How about last year's Eagles vs last year's Patriots?

Meh... I don't know man
That 2017 Eagles team was pretty f*cking good

Now as far as the 2007 Giants v 2007 Patriots
I'd take that money all day - that patriots team was better in all three phases of the game than the Giants
They just lost that game...

[GannonFan]

So the Giants two Super Bowl wins over NE were flukes too? Roger that.

Ten games on a neutral field, how many do you think the 2007 Giants win against the 2007 Pats? How about last year's Eagles vs last year's Patriots?

Can't answer until we know if the Pats will have videotape of the Giants sideline after the first game or not.

[Gil Dobie]

John DeFilippo has been relieved from his duties as offensive coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings.

[GannonFan]

John DeFilippo has been relieved from his duties as offensive coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings.

Eagles would probably take him back.

[93henfan]

John DeFilippo has been relieved from his duties as offensive coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings.

Eagles would probably take him back.

Absodamnlutely. Dougie misses him and Frank this year.

[Vidav]

So the Giants two Super Bowl wins over NE were flukes too? Roger that.

The idea that the Eagles had one good year and fell off is impossible. Roger that.

[93henfan]

So the Giants two Super Bowl wins over NE were flukes too? Roger that.

The idea that the Eagles had one good year and fell off is impossible. Roger that.

That's not an idea. That's fact. They've been decimated by injury this season. They'll be back healthy and winning the NFC East again next year. Hell, they played the Cowboys within a score twice, as banged up as they got this year. (Plus very one-sided officiating in Dallas as always, negating two Eagles scores on clearly incorrect calls.)

[Vidav]

Wentz is not expected to play this week. Which of course means the Eagles are going on a run with Foles and will win it all.

[GannonFan]

Wentz is not expected to play this week. Which of course means the Eagles are going on a run with Foles and will win it all.

Well, the Eagles win out and get a little help with the Vikes losing and they could make the playoffs. However, last year Foles had the luxury of a real NFL secondary on the defensive side of the ball when he wasn't on the field so I wouldn't hold out hope for Foles to replicate last year's run. But the word is they might shut him down for the rest of the year - I wouldn't argue with that.

[Gil Dobie]

Wentz is not expected to play this week. Which of course means the Eagles are going on a run with Foles and will win it all.

Might be worse than we know.

[GannonFan]

Wentz is not expected to play this week. Which of course means the Eagles are going on a run with Foles and will win it all.

Might be worse than we know.

All the more reason to sit now and get to have an offseason where he can actually participate and throw rather than one where's he just rehabbing.

[Grizalltheway]

GF as per usual...

[GannonFan]

GF as per usual...

What's the drama on your end? If the Eagles were still really alive and likely to make the playoffs Wentz would be playing this week. Word is it's a cracked vertebrae but nothing that won't heal on it's own. If the Eagles had won in Dallas last week he'd be playing against the Rams this week. Once the playoffs have become a dim possibility why risk him? We've seen the difference between a healthy Wentz and a non-healthy Wentz and I'd rather have the former next year than go through a year like this again.

[Grizalltheway]

GF as per usual...

What's the drama on your end? If the Eagles were still really alive and likely to make the playoffs Wentz would be playing this week. Word is it's a cracked vertebrae but nothing that won't heal on it's own. If the Eagles had won in Dallas last week he'd be playing against the Rams this week. Once the playoffs have become a dim possibility why risk him? We've seen the difference between a healthy Wentz and a non-healthy Wentz and I'd rather have the former next year than go through a year like this again.

Messing with Philly fans, mostly. You guys are just so...what's the word...obstinate.

[93henfan]

What's the drama on your end? If the Eagles were still really alive and likely to make the playoffs Wentz would be playing this week. Word is it's a cracked vertebrae but nothing that won't heal on it's own. If the Eagles had won in Dallas last week he'd be playing against the Rams this week. Once the playoffs have become a dim possibility why risk him? We've seen the difference between a healthy Wentz and a non-healthy Wentz and I'd rather have the former next year than go through a year like this again.

Messing with Philly fans, mostly. You guys are just so...what's the word...obstinate.

Go fuck yourself, Weetag!