Matthis resigning as Defense Secretary over Syrian Pullout

[Silenoz]

Right on cue:

WASHINGTON—A day after a contested decision to pull American military forces from Syria, officials said Thursday that President Trump has ordered the start of a reduction of American forces in Afghanistan.

More than 7,000 American troops will begin to return home from Afghanistan in the coming weeks, a U.S. official said.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-admi ... 1545341452

Thank Christ. My brother was already over there, for no reason.

[HI54UNI]

Seeing reports on twitter that French troops will replace our troops in Syria. I hope it's true. Let somebody else play World Police.

[CID1990]

I'm waiting for the "Trump's withdrawal from Syria is racist" from Vox, Salon, or Slate. Should be a riot.

Vox has already published an epic exercise in mental gymnastics on this


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[dbackjon]

It is absofuckinglutely hilarious to watch donks defend the need to stay at war. If this were Obama making this decision you’d be standing in line to suck his cock.

I swear, there is literally nothing Trump could do that would satisfy some folks.

Actually no. But way to deflect from the horrid decisions you helped occur.

[∞∞∞]

I'm particularly worried about the Kurds.

They help us and get fucked over time and time again.

[93henfan]

I'm particularly worried about the Kurds.

They help us and get fucked over time and time again.

That's true.

Probably because they called themselves something that rhymes with terd, nobody takes them seriously.

They should rename themselves The Fuckuban, or Neo-Huns, or something that sounds bad-ass.

[CID1990]

Honestly getting out of Afghanistan is what I've been begging for for years...
We can't save the world from itself

and My guess is "all the fuss" is just exactly what 93 pointed out - standard political hypocrisy

The Taliban is still chopping heads and hands off in the vast swaths we don't control, as their various iterations have done for centuries between the distractions of the occasional foreign crusader or profiteer.

Speaking of profiteers, I still don't regret turning down the $271K/year job offer I got back in 2011 to go to that cesspool as a private contractor. I might he headless myself by now.

Whenever I think about this it reminds me of Sean Connery's character in The Untouchables - when he's asking Kevin Costner what he's prepared to do to get Capone...

15 years of war and the Taliban still exists -

I was in Iraq and saw it firsthand - our unwillingness to do what needs to be done to accomplish our objectives

If we aren't prepared to do wholesale murder - down to the very last man of fighting age - then we shouldnt be there at all. And we should have Congressional approval when we are


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[Chizzang]

Honestly, I didn't even know we had troops in Syria. I bet there's tons of places we have troops that people don't know. Whether pulling out of Syria is the right thing or not (and I've heard very good arguments on either side of the question) I think it is a good thing to at least question why we have troops in harms way wherever they are. If we're asking for people to die for something we should at least be cognizant of why we're doing it.

That’s what the fvcking War Powers Resolution is for, Ganny. And guess how many times its procedures have been invoked since its passage in 1973. Hint: it’s a very small number.

Oh Oh..!!! I know I know

[Chizzang]

Whenever I think about this it reminds me of Sean Connery's character in The Untouchables - when he's asking Kevin Costner what he's prepared to do to get Capone...

15 years of war and the Taliban still exists -

I was in Iraq and saw it firsthand - our unwillingness to do what needs to be done to accomplish our objectives

If we aren't prepared to do wholesale murder - down to the very last man of fighting age - then we shouldnt be there at all. And we should have Congressional approval when we are

Ask any Russian Military expert sill alive that was in the Afghan/Russian war of 1979 to 1989
The Mujahideen or Islamic guerrilla Forces won a war against a Major World Military

The Mujahhideen guerrilla mentality
It's now part of Islamic Afghan culture - alive and well still to this day
and there ain't one damn thing (shy of atomic bombs) that we can do about it



and this below:
Was sent this with quote / Liberal reaction if Trump successfully pulls US out of Syria and Afghanistan

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[89Hen]

our unwillingness to do what needs to be done to accomplish our objectives

If we aren't prepared to do wholesale murder - down to the very last man of fighting age - then we shouldnt be there at all.

Sounds familiar.

[CID1990]

our unwillingness to do what needs to be done to accomplish our objectives

If we aren't prepared to do wholesale murder - down to the very last man of fighting age - then we shouldnt be there at all.

Sounds familiar.

Vietnam is case study #1 in what happens when you are only half-committed to fighting a war


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[AZGrizFan]

Sounds familiar.

Vietnam is case study #1 in what happens when you are only half-committed to fighting a war


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Also a case study in what happens when the people in Washington are attempting to make the on-the-ground decisions in real time.

[SeattleGriz]

So Obama waited and hoped ISIS would force Assad to come and negotiate with America, but instead went to Russia and people are upset Trump wants out of Obama's mess?

[CID1990]

Remember all the left wing pearl clutching when John McCain said we’d have to be in Afghanistan and other places indefinitely?

Good times

[Ivytalk]

That’s what the fvcking War Powers Resolution is for, Ganny. And guess how many times its procedures have been invoked since its passage in 1973. Hint: it’s a very small number.

Oh Oh..!!! I know I know

Yes, Mr. Chizzang? ( playing role of law professor calling on student)

[Skjellyfetti]

Remember all the left wing pearl clutching when John McCain said we’d have to be in Afghanistan and other places indefinitely?

Good times

Remember all the right wing pearl clutching about how turrible a timeline for troop withdrawal is?

[Ibanez]

Remember all the left wing pearl clutching when John McCain said we’d have to be in Afghanistan and other places indefinitely?

Good times

Remember all the right wing pearl clutching about how turrible a timeline for troop withdrawal is?

Wasn’t that more of a lack of an exit strategy?


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[CID1990]

Remember all the left wing pearl clutching when John McCain said we’d have to be in Afghanistan and other places indefinitely?

Good times

Remember all the right wing pearl clutching about how turrible a timeline for troop withdrawal is?

I sure do -

And most of them are still doing it

What's your point, Mr. Pro-World Police Military Industrial Complex?


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[AZGrizFan]

Remember all the right wing pearl clutching about how turrible a timeline for troop withdrawal is?

I sure do -

And most of them are still doing it

What's your point, Mr. Pro-World Police Military Industrial Complex?


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[Skjellyfetti]

What's your point, Mr. Pro-World Police Military Industrial Complex?

What did I say to give you that impression?

[CID1990]

What's your point, Mr. Pro-World Police Military Industrial Complex?

What did I say to give you that impression?

So you agree with the decision to pull out of Syria?

Good for you

[Skjellyfetti]

With some nuance, yes.

I am glad we're getting out of Syria and Afghanistan.

I am not glad our foreign policy is being made at the latest whim of Trump... with no larger strategy. He could decide to intervene in Venezuela next week fo all we know.

[93henfan]

With some nuance, yes.

I am glad we're getting out of Syria and Afghanistan.

I am not glad our foreign policy is being made at the latest whim of Trump... with no larger strategy. He could decide to intervene in Venezuela next week fo all we know.

Week after next, after Monday, please. I have Maduro in the 2019 pool.

[Chizzang]

With some nuance, yes.

I am glad we're getting out of Syria and Afghanistan.

I am not glad our foreign policy is being made at the latest whim of Trump... with no larger strategy. He could decide to intervene in Venezuela next week fo all we know.

Meh...
Frankly I don't care how we get out of Afghanistan (and Syria) as long as we get out
Too many President beholden to our Defense contractors and not the American people

[CID1990]

With some nuance, yes.

I am glad we're getting out of Syria and Afghanistan.

I am not glad our foreign policy is being made at the latest whim of Trump... with no larger strategy. He could decide to intervene in Venezuela next week fo all we know.

Well boo fvcking hoo

Too bad we didn’t leave with a masterful rhetorical flourish to make you feel good about us doing something you supposedly want to do anyway

Nice diversion... “he’s so crazy he might invade somebody”

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