Law abiding citizens want it. It's why they elected Trump.dbackjon wrote:Only scared snowflakes want a wall. Fragile masculinity. That's Trump's base.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Nope just straight up cocksucking. We are men and we don't do any of that millennial fagottry.
Fund the wall or STFU
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No, John, neither a former nor an active CIA officer would be better versed on physical border security than a former head of the agency in charge of physical border security.JohnStOnge wrote:I have two lines of thought on that. First I think there have been different takes by different Border Patrol people. Like for instance until early January the Border Patrol Union website had a statement up indicating that a wall would be a waste of money. The previous Union Leadership had that opinion. The new Union Leadership does not.BDKJMU wrote: I would think we need to ask ourselves if we think a former head of the Border Patrol knows more about what is needed at the border than a Congressman.
Jan 9:
Obama Border Patrol chief to Trump: ‘Stay the course’ on the border wall
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 5d4c68ab23
The other thought is that Border Patrol people are looking at a given situation as it is and thinking about how to address it. Hurd is thinking in more strategic terms. He is thinking that money would be better spent at the source of the problem. He thinks that there are better ways to end up with fewer people coming into the United States illegally than focusing on barriers to stop them once they've made the decision to come here.
It's hard to say. But I would say that I think a former CIA officer could very well be better equipped by experience to think in those terms than a former head of the Border Patrol is.
Incorrect. Majority of law abiding Americans don't They understand the wall will be worthless, a boondoggle that will cost hundreds of billonsALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Law abiding citizens want it. It's why they elected Trump.dbackjon wrote:
Only scared snowflakes want a wall. Fragile masculinity. That's Trump's base.
I don't care either way I'm not one of those people, I will do what I want when I want and there is only one thing you can do to stop that
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Wannabe.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:But you guys say he's a dictator....... And a Nazi...... And a fascist and a...... Make up your mind.Grizalltheway wrote: That's not how it works, Trump isn't a dictator.
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The Coast Guard not being a part of DoD has always been a head scratcher, but I know the history93henfan wrote:
For Russia.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I love that nobody can fuck with Trump he's a real leader
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To the extent that he's a leader it's in the sense of being a cult leader. It's self evident that he's a leader because a large number of people follow him in worshipful fashion. It's a minority but a large minority. And it's a cult. The people who follow him demonstrate that they are totally divorced from reality. Up is down, right is left, and black is white because the Dear Leader says so. So far it's been very difficult to get them to snap out of it. Hopefully it'll change some day. But we all know it's hard to bring someone who has bought into a cult back to their senses.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I love that nobody can **** with Trump he's a real leader
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Ah... yesCID1990 wrote:Tomorrow I find out if I’ve been working without pay for the last week!
The excitement is almost too much to bear
That's what's going through the head of the guy dangling on a rope and winch under an orange helicopter as your capsized boat is floundering in rough seas.Chizzang wrote:Ah... yesCID1990 wrote:Tomorrow I find out if I’ve been working without pay for the last week!
The excitement is almost too much to bear
Trade my life for money roulette
I give you a week of my life - you give me money
(Or do you?)
Spin the wheel and find out
There are a lot of us at State who are excepted but unpaid. There's a big conference that SecState is organizing for the newly confirmed ambassadors in DC. Many officers are having to organize it and they aren't being paid-Chizzang wrote:Ah... yesCID1990 wrote:Tomorrow I find out if I’ve been working without pay for the last week!
The excitement is almost too much to bear
Trade my life for money roulette
I give you a week of my life - you give me money
(Or do you?)
Spin the wheel and find out
Boaters who do out without checking the weather and the seaworthiness of their craft should probably drown93henfan wrote:That's what's going through the head of the guy dangling on a rope and winch under an orange helicopter as your capsized boat is floundering in rough seas.Chizzang wrote:
Ah... yes
Trade my life for money roulette
I give you a week of my life - you give me money
(Or do you?)
Spin the wheel and find out
Better hope he's feeling heroic that day!
It's not necessarily a matter of physical border security. That's what I was trying to get at but apparently I didn't get the point across. It's a matter of spending the money in a way that achieves the greatest reduction of illegals crossing the border.CID1990 wrote:No, John, neither a former nor an active CIA officer would be better versed on physical border security than a former head of the agency in charge of physical border security.JohnStOnge wrote:
I have two lines of thought on that. First I think there have been different takes by different Border Patrol people. Like for instance until early January the Border Patrol Union website had a statement up indicating that a wall would be a waste of money. The previous Union Leadership had that opinion. The new Union Leadership does not.
The other thought is that Border Patrol people are looking at a given situation as it is and thinking about how to address it. Hurd is thinking in more strategic terms. He is thinking that money would be better spent at the source of the problem. He thinks that there are better ways to end up with fewer people coming into the United States illegally than focusing on barriers to stop them once they've made the decision to come here.
It's hard to say. But I would say that I think a former CIA officer could very well be better equipped by experience to think in those terms than a former head of the Border Patrol is.
Your “expert” has an opinion like everybody else, and nothing he has done in his career had anything to do with whether or not Trumps “wall” would play an effective role in border security.
What I do know is that Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall. He provided media with a specific plan for how he would do that. He has made no effort to implement that plan and instead is now trying to use some kind of crock about the adjusted trade deal that hasn't been approved yet doing it while trying to get US taxpayers to do it. I also know that the majority of Americans oppose building a wall along the border and, by an overwhelming margin, support what the Democrats want to do to end the partial shutdown.Benjamin Webb, who until last week was the executive director of the policy and planning office for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said money would be better spent on more technology and incentives to recruit new agents.
“The whole idea of building this big wall is preposterous. We already have fencing where we need it most,” he said. “It would be an incredible waste of taxpayer money.”
Shit happens on the bays (and ocean) around here frequently in the summer. Weekend warriors get caught in pop up t-storms. But you already knew that.CID1990 wrote:Boaters who do out without checking the weather and the seaworthiness of their craft should probably drown93henfan wrote:
That's what's going through the head of the guy dangling on a rope and winch under an orange helicopter as your capsized boat is floundering in rough seas.
Better hope he's feeling heroic that day!
they probably drive slow in the left lane too
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Hillary lost, get over your severe case of TDSJohnStOnge wrote:To the extent that he's a leader it's in the sense of being a cult leader. It's self evident that he's a leader because a large number of people follow him in worshipful fashion. It's a minority but a large minority. And it's a cult. The people who follow him demonstrate that they are totally divorced from reality. Up is down, right is left, and black is white because the Dear Leader says so. So far it's been very difficult to get them to snap out of it. Hopefully it'll change some day. But we all know it's hard to bring someone who has bought into a cult back to their senses.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I love that nobody can **** with Trump he's a real leader
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Most Americans voted for somebody else.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:It's why America elected himmainejeff wrote:You guys are such **** wads. Trump is proud of you!
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Chizzang wrote:Here... this is for CID and 93
Just a reminder that Lord trump may or may not (at his whim)
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/15/opinions ... index.htmlCongress has a golden opportunity to seize control of events, reopen the government, reclaim its authority, check a wildly flailing president and reassure the American people in this time of governmental chaos and instability. This could, and should, include overriding a presidential veto, if necessary.
Pretty sure we had armed forces go unpaid in some of those old timey wars that literally determined the survival of this country.93henfan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
We'd be living like the Jetsons right now if the world listened to (civil) engineers.houndawg wrote:..and Civil Engineers..Chizzang wrote:
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