116th Congress

[GannonFan]

There was a stalemate, both countries send dignitaries to negotiate a peace in Ghent.

But yes, The Battle of New Orleans didn't do anything to end the war. It occurred about 2-3 weeks after the Treaty of Ghent was signed.

Get GannonFan in here. We have a history dispute.

In my stead, Ibanez is more than qualified to let people like Jelly and SD know when they've completely erred in their memory of history, as they both so memorably have done in this thread.

[GannonFan]

So just keep everything in standard units then for sports? What are we talking about changing then? Most of the stuff in industry is already metric anyway. What has to go metric that's really not metric now?

You're serious?

Do you drive a car?

I get it. You're arguing just to argue. It's what you do.

I guess that's what was different in my family. I didn't have any brothers to argue with and my sister was young enough never be in the same school or school bus as me. As such. I never felt a need to constantly bicker and argue over everything. Meanwhile, my dad is one of four brothers, all very close in age. They argue about everything. It's stupid, but funny as hell.

Yikes, take some meds dude, you're on the angry side for some reason. Settle down, Beavis.

[GannonFan]

I agree, I like the choice of Tubman. You normally just think Underground Railroad with her but she was tremendously more than that. Jackson has been there long enough.

Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln & Franklin have been on their current denominations longer than Jackson has been on the $20, and Hamilton and Grant have been on their respective denominations as long.

Washington 1869 went onto the $1
Jefferson 1869 went onto the $2
Lincoln 1914 went onto the $5
Franklin 1914 went onto the $100
Hamilton: 1929 went onto the $10
Jackson 1929 went onto the $20
Grant 1929 went onto the $50

Wow, I think it's fantastic that you looked all that up. Awesome research. I simply meant that Jackson's time as a revered enough figure to be on money has passed. The Democrats did a great job of carrying him in glowing regard this far as part of the J&J dinners, and I'll give Jackson credit where it's due - I'm not sure there has been any President more committed (some have been equal) to Jackson in terms of his love for America and the desire to keep it together as he was (still should've just gone and hanged Calhoun). But he was an appalling racist (and not just in thought but very much in deed, and to horrible effect) and a Trump-like President before there was a Trump. He stands out as a sore thumb in the company of the others who are on the money (at least the list you have).

[93henfan]

You're serious?

Do you drive a car?

I get it. You're arguing just to argue. It's what you do.

I guess that's what was different in my family. I didn't have any brothers to argue with and my sister was young enough never be in the same school or school bus as me. As such. I never felt a need to constantly bicker and argue over everything. Meanwhile, my dad is one of four brothers, all very close in age. They argue about everything. It's stupid, but funny as hell.

Yikes, take some meds dude, you're on the angry side for some reason. Settle down, Beavis.

Angry how? What specifically was "angry" in my post, beside nothing at all?

Again, you have nothing, as usual.

Validating my "arguing just to argue" observation. That's all you have really.

[GannonFan]

Yikes, take some meds dude, you're on the angry side for some reason. Settle down, Beavis.

Angry how? What specifically was "angry" in my post, beside nothing at all?

Again, you have nothing, as usual.

Validating my "arguing just to argue" observation. That's all you have really.

[SDHornet]

And you’re calling someone else a dumbass here..

I think what Junior Jelly meant to say was that the battle occurred before the news of the signing of the Treaty of Ghent reached the US.

But Old Hickory certainly did kick their asses up over their shoulders in New Orleans.


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Not to mention that the treaty had language in it that basically meant whoever had control of what at the time of the treaty would retain that land. So if the brits would have taken NO, they would have kept it and all of its commerce flowing through it.

jellybelly with another fail. How surprising.

[Skjellyfetti]

Not to mention that the treaty had language in it that basically meant whoever had control of what at the time of the treaty would retain that land. So if the brits would have taken NO, they would have kept it and all of its commerce flowing through it.

jellybelly with another fail. How surprising.

You still haven't wrapped your head around the fact that the Battle of New Orleans was AFTER the treaty?

[SDHornet]

Not to mention that the treaty had language in it that basically meant whoever had control of what at the time of the treaty would retain that land. So if the brits would have taken NO, they would have kept it and all of its commerce flowing through it.

jellybelly with another fail. How surprising.

You still haven't wrapped your head around the fact that the Battle of New Orleans was AFTER the treaty?

And that if the brits had gained control of NO by the time it reached Congress for ratification, that they would have kept it.

Keep digging that hole jellybelly, keep digging that hole.

[Skjellyfetti]

No, they agreed to the terms of the treaty when the treaty was signed. If Britain would have tried to keep New Orleans... which was not one of the territories agreed upon... war would have broken out again.

Even including your hypothetical excercises... this isn't close to true.

Jackson played a huge role in ensuring America's win the War of 1812

[Winterborn]

One one hand I say go to all metric and be done with it. We have to be about half way or more there already and as someone mentioned most of manufacturing already use it.

On the other hand I like us being different than the rest of the world. Kinda of like giving the whole world the middle finger in a way.


As for the use of plastic money. I watched a NOVA special a number of years ago and they were talking about the different testing they put the bills through and the plastic ones will not past the "crumple" test. Which is they roll the bill in a cylinder the short way, and then place it in a device that smashes it to about half the width. The plastic bills tear and the security features end up being destroyed when they do that. It is another reason our bills do not have the flashy "holograms" that some of the other countries have.

[CID1990]

No, they agreed to the terms of the treaty when the treaty was signed. If Britain would have tried to keep New Orleans... which was not one of the territories agreed upon... war would have broken out again.

Even including your hypothetical excercises... this isn't close to true.

Jackson played a huge role in ensuring America's win the War of 1812

I see you’re all Wiki-ed up and ready to wade back into battle with your newfound knowledge


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[LeadBolt]

I agree on all 3. And that's similar to what they have with the euro & pound, too- Have the penny, but also a 2 cent piece, 5 cent, 10 cent, 20 cent, 50 cent. 1 and 2 euro/pound coins. Paper doesn't start until the $5 euro/pound bills.
We already have the $1 coin. Just start cranking out more of them and slowly phase out $1 bills. Also immediately introduce a $2 coin and get rid of the rarely used queer bill.

If the $1 bill goes away, I'm investing in strippers.

You mean you haven’t already invested in them?


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[SDHornet]

No, they agreed to the terms of the treaty when the treaty was signed. If Britain would have tried to keep New Orleans... which was not one of the territories agreed upon... war would have broken out again.

Even including your hypothetical excercises... this isn't close to true.

I see you’re all Wiki-ed up and ready to wade back into battle with your newfound knowledge


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No shit.

My statements are based on Brian Kilmeade and Don Yaeger's recent book on the matter. Quick easy read for those interested. Basically the last section of Chapter 10 lays out what I've posted. The treaty contained language stating that each side will keep land "as they possess" meaning the brits were playing for keeps. If the brits had no intention of keeping NO, they wouldn't have mobilized a fleet full of bureaucrats and commerce folks aimed at liquidating all the goods stuck in port in addition to their fighting forces invading NO.

The book lays out all the issues facing Jackson, how he anticipated the british attack, the preparation, and why the win was such a big deal. But you know, according to jellybelly it was no biggie or something; nevermind the fact that an out manned and out gunned American force whooped british ass yet again.

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[css75]

Reagan should go on the $20, put Tubmon on. a quarter


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[Grizalltheway]

Reagan should go on the $20, put Tubmon on. a quarter


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You are beyond help.

[mainejeff]

Reagan should go on the $20, put Tubmon on. a quarter


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Raygun should be be nowhere on any monetary denomination. But knowing how you racist celebrity loving Conks work....I'm sure there will be a movement to get him on something.

[houndawg]

And this is why the US lags the civilized world in mathematics.

I just bought a milrad scope (instead of MOA) last year, because I find the metric calculations easier to do in my head. Base ten ftw.

Sweet hijack, btw. I wish Bandle and Andy were involved with me on this one. Ah, the good old days.

So what's your suggestion on how to make football metric then? 100 yards is 91.44 meters. Are you going to make the field shorter? Or do we abandon football altogether because you think it is tied to our performance in math?

Oh, and I'm still against Celsius.

Make the field 100 meters. Duh. The original dimensions were more suited to the smaller, slower, players of back in the day.

Nobody runs the 100 yard dash any more.

[css75]

Reagan should go on the $20, put Tubmon on. a quarter


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Raygun should be be nowhere on any monetary denomination. But knowing how you racist celebrity loving Conks work....I'm sure there will be a movement to get him on something.

You have got to be the biggest bigot and racist on the board, so it is good to see you are consistent.


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[css75]

So what's your suggestion on how to make football metric then? 100 yards is 91.44 meters. Are you going to make the field shorter? Or do we abandon football altogether because you think it is tied to our performance in math?

Oh, and I'm still against Celsius.

Make the field 100 meters. Duh. The original dimensions were more suited to the smaller, slower, players of back in the day.

Nobody runs the 100 yard dash any more.

The U S lands men on the moon and leads in technology. The rest of the world uses metrics.


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[houndawg]

Make the field 100 meters. Duh. The original dimensions were more suited to the smaller, slower, players of back in the day.

Nobody runs the 100 yard dash any more.

The U S lands men on the moon and leads in technology. The rest of the world uses metrics.


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Why don't you run along and start a different thread for that subject?