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mainejeff wrote:My god.....what a rambling fucked up mess.
:lol:

I really don't think we'll ever have another President this remarkably simultaneously entertaining and incompetent. Try to enjoy the entertainment part and keep your fingers crossed on the other part. You wouldn't have wanted that part during the Cuban Missile Crisis or in the early 80s when Soviet navy ships were ramming US navy ships and our pilots were flipping each other the bird, Top Gun style, over the Bering Strait. Be glad we're in a bit of a lull on the war footing.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Doesnt matter who pays for it, it needs to be done.

We pay for everything all over the world and you fucking losers wont spend 5 billion to secure our border. Hell we just mailed a shit ton of food to Venezuela today why I have no idea, they wanted socialism they shouldnt get bailed out when it fails......dont see you cunts bitching about the cost of that!

Keep spending!!! It what you guys do yet now you are mad at Trump. Its why we dont give a fuck
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Ibanez wrote:
bluehenbillk wrote:CNN & the like would make you believe that National Emergencies are never used, which is a pile of crap. Since 1979 U.S. Presidents have declared 58 National Emergencies, 31 of these are still in effect today. Clinton used it the most, 17 times.
I'd be willing to bet most of them were for sanctions, disaster relief, barring the US from importing illegal items or working with a foreign company. Things like that and not a construction project. It's not meant to circumnavigate the appropriation duties of Congress when you don't get your way.
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Mexico could send a fucking check and you asshats would fucking spin it like the bitches you are.

Its why we dont care what you think just sit back and enjoy having things you dont like rammed down your throat.......not like that hasnt happened a lot anyway.
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dbackjon wrote:
Baldy wrote: You and your ilk certainly hope so, but you need to remember one thing...the people who believe in the Constitution are the ones who are armed. :nod:
No, they don't believe in the Constitution. Just one amendment
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Mexico could send a fucking check and you asshats would fucking spin it like the bitches you are.

Its why we dont care what you think just sit back and enjoy having things you dont like rammed down your throat.......not like that hasnt happened a lot anyway.
It's a lot like Obamacare, except that actually happened.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Mexico could send a fucking check and you asshats would fucking spin it like the bitches you are.

Its why we dont care what you think just sit back and enjoy having things you dont like rammed down your throat.......not like that hasnt happened a lot anyway.
It's a lot like Obamacare, except that actually happened.
Mexico will pay for it is Trump’s “If you like your doctor You can keep your doctor.”
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93henfan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:My god.....what a rambling fucked up mess.
:lol:

I really don't think we'll ever have another President this remarkably simultaneously entertaining and incompetent. Try to enjoy the entertainment part and keep your fingers crossed on the other part. You wouldn't have wanted that part during the Cuban Missile Crisis or in the early 80s when Soviet navy ships were ramming US navy ships and our pilots were flipping each other the bird, Top Gun style, over the Bering Strait. Be glad we're in a bit of a lull on the war footing.
Or....maybe that’s WHY we’re in a “bit of a lull”...because he’s batshit crazy and they’re not quite sure the response they’ll get, given his public irrationality.... :coffee:
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And, for the record, I do NOT support the use of a “National Emergency” to build the wall. A) it’s not something to be used to circumvent the appropriations process and B), as SOON as there’s a donk in office, I believe they’ll declare a “National Emergency” and use that to begin doing something like, oh, say confiscating certain firearms and placing draconian laws/rules in place regarding the 2nd amendment....I think it starts us down a slippery slope. Much like when Dipshit Reid used the nuke option and got rid of the supermajority requirement I KNEW it was a bad idea and said so at the time, and now it’s been used against the donks and they don’t like it....this will come back to bite republicans in the ass...I think that’s why so may senators and congressmen don’t want him to do it.
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There’s a lot of finger pointing at Trump right now but nobody wants to look over their shoulder at the long slope we have slid down already.... particularly because most of us will see things we have all been ok with at one point or another. Trump is a symptom but far from a cause

Declaring a national emergency over something that is not an emergency but IS a problem is just the next step after the pen and the phone

That said, Trump’s “emergency” will have little detrimental effect on Americans in the short term - aside from the ones who lose property -

We were supposed to see some grand erosion of civil liberties under Trump but so far the American Berlusconi has only managed to strike fear of inconvenience into the hearts of Mexicans and Central Americans


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∞∞∞ wrote:
Ibanez wrote: That's funny, I could swear it's a "republican" that just announced he's going to take from the DOD billions of dollars in addition the land from private landowners. Funny - I thought Congress had the power of the purse.
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mainejeff wrote:
Ibanez wrote: That's funny, I could swear it's a "republican" that just announced he's going to take from the DOD billions of dollars in addition the land from private landowners. Funny - I thought Congress had the power of the purse.
Conks are fine with taking money from the DOD....unless his name is Obama.

:coffee:
It's good to see that we have you on record against taking funding away from the DOD. :thumb:

conkjeff :lol:
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dbackjon wrote:
Baldy wrote: You and your ilk certainly hope so, but you need to remember one thing...the people who believe in the Constitution are the ones who are armed. :nod:
No, they don't believe in the Constitution. Just one amendment
You're a few years late, but I do admire your new found love for the Constitution. :kisswink:
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Baldy wrote: You and your ilk certainly hope so, but you need to remember one thing...the people who believe in the Constitution are the ones who are armed. :nod:
I own a firearm. :coffee:

I know you're referring to libs in general, but anecdotally, I'd guess a third of my liberal/moderate friends own a gun. We just don't give a shit as much to flaunt them around. It's nothing special.
"It's nothing special."

In just a little over a year after Parkland, it warms my heart to see libs like you grow and mature. There's hope for you people yet.
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Frankly
Nobody that makes it through the political gauntlet ends up doing whats right for America...
They get derailed along the way - and taken hostage

:nod:
Actually my impression of Occasional is that she's fairly honest in a bright eyed sort of way (in spite of her assault on mathematics)

I don't think she'll be taken hostage

I think she'll rant and rave and then in a fit of pique she'll either quit and go work for a think tank or she'll run for President

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:National defense and protecting our country is not an abuse of power, its doing wht he swore under oath he would do when we elected him. :dunce:
Have Mexico pay for the wall?
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Baldy wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
The needle is moving....and we have Donald J. Trump to thank for that. :nod:

The Constitution won't mean **** in another decade.... :kisswink:

:coffee:
You and your ilk certainly hope so, but you need to remember one thing...the people who believe in the Constitution are the ones who are armed. :nod:
You won't do shit when the drone comes to collect your guns. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
Baldy wrote: You and your ilk certainly hope so, but you need to remember one thing...the people who believe in the Constitution are the ones who are armed. :nod:
You won't do shit when the drone comes to collect your guns. :coffee:
Who said I had any guns? It's kinda hard to collect guns from people when they don't know who all has guns.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Doesnt matter who pays for it, it needs to be done.

We pay for everything all over the world and you **** losers wont spend 5 billion to secure our border. Hell we just mailed a **** ton of food to Venezuela today why I have no idea, they wanted socialism they shouldnt get bailed out when it fails......dont see you cunts bitching about the cost of that!

Keep spending!!! It what you guys do yet now you are mad at Trump. Its why we dont give a ****
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Baldy wrote:
houndawg wrote:
You won't do **** when the drone comes to collect your guns. :coffee:
Who said I had any guns? It's kinda hard to collect guns from people when they don't know who all has guns.

:coffee:

I'm sure the gubmint will be very appreciative of your help. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Doesnt matter who pays for it, it needs to be done.

We pay for everything all over the world and you **** losers wont spend 5 billion to secure our border. Hell we just mailed a **** ton of food to Venezuela today why I have no idea, they wanted socialism they shouldnt get bailed out when it fails......dont see you cunts bitching about the cost of that!

Keep spending!!! It what you guys do yet now you are mad at Trump. Its why we dont give a ****
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Mexico could send a fucking check and you asshats would fucking spin it like the bitches you are.

Its why we dont care what you think just sit back and enjoy having things you dont like rammed down your throat.......not like that hasnt happened a lot anyway.
When is Mexico paying for it?

I'd like to ram something down your throat....but you'd enjoy it too much.

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Baldy wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Conks are fine with taking money from the DOD....unless his name is Obama.

:coffee:
It's good to see that we have you on record against taking funding away from the DOD. :thumb:

conkjeff :lol:
I've always been for a strong defense/military.

You Conktards must hate that! :nod:

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Baldy wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
No, they don't believe in the Constitution. Just one amendment
You're a few years late, but I do admire your new found love for the Constitution. :kisswink:
And we admire your new found hatred for it.

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Baldy wrote:
houndawg wrote:
You won't do shit when the drone comes to collect your guns. :coffee:
Who said I had any guns? It's kinda hard to collect guns from people when they don't know who all has guns.

:coffee:
Blah blah blah....do Conks actually go one day without obsessing about their fucking guns?

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