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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:50 am

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93henfan wrote:Utopian societies will never work, because people are never truly equal in them. Somebody pulls the strings, and that somebody is always going to look out for #1.

And then if #1 is sniffed out and executed, #2 becomes #1. Rinse and repeat.

It's natural to approach the concept from the collective human experience up to this point in time (as you did) and predict it'll never work, but if one arises, it'll be from an interconnection of events, technology, biological changes, etc. that we can't really imagine today.


Nature does not really show us Utopian societies. Nature behaves differently, similar to groups of animals, if you look at a wolf pack, lion pride, baboon troop, the alpha's eat first, breed first, then the rest are taken care of in order of importance.
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby ∞∞∞ » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:10 am

Gil Dobie wrote:Nature does not really show us Utopian societies. Nature behaves differently, similar to groups of animals, if you look at a wolf pack, lion pride, baboon troop, the alpha's eat first, breed first, then the rest are taken care of in order of importance.

Humans are the one species which expertly controls nature. But what if it masters that control? What if we master nano-technology, replication, robotics, augmented reality, unlimited energy, etc.?

Yes we're animals and even share similar DNA with some you listed, but humans are still vastly different.

I don't disagree with your statement, but I don't agree that it's a foundation to say utopias are impossible.

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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 am

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I didn't say it will be done via emergency declaration. I'm trying to figure out what the difference is between expanding the court and what Trump is doing with the national emergency (besides that one is unprecedented, but does that make it right?)

One is a single individual surpassing the authority given to him by the contract he swore an oath to. And no one in his party giving a sh*t beyond symbolic finger-wagging.

One is hundreds of thousands of constituents telling their reps that they want something changed and said reps changing it with the full authority of the contract they swore an oath to.


No. One is recognizing an emergency and trying to right it while the other side plays politics, and the other is a party pissing and moaning that they’re going to change the rules because they didn’t get their way.
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:37 am

AZGrizFan wrote: the other is a party pissing and moaning that they’re going to change the rules because they didn’t get their way.


Sums up Trump and his wall funding pretty well. Glad to see you're coming around, AZ. :thumb:
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:23 pm

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AZGrizFan wrote: the other is a party pissing and moaning that they’re going to change the rules because they didn’t get their way.


Sums up Trump and his wall funding pretty well. Glad to see you're coming around, AZ. :thumb:


Agreed. I dont agree with using the National Emergency declaration the way Trump did. That doesn’t excuse all the hand wringing and pissing and moaning going on by the left every time they don’t get their way.
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:26 pm

But, you're hand wringing, pissing and moaning about a hypothetical action that a Democratic POTUS may take in the future... while poo pooing Cheetolini in the present.
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Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:29 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:But, you're hand wringing, pissing and moaning about a hypothetical action that a Democratic POTUS may take in the future... while poo pooing Cheetolini in the present.


I’m not poo pooing anything. I’ve been very consistent in my disapproval of Trump’s use of the Emergency Declaration and his attempts to circumvent the appropriations process.

and those may be “hypothetical”, but they’re rapidly becoming platform planks for just about every donk running for president.
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Postby 89Hen » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:09 pm

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AZGrizFan wrote: the other is a party pissing and moaning that they’re going to change the rules because they didn’t get their way.


Sums up Trump and his wall funding pretty well. Glad to see you're coming around, AZ. :thumb:

Or like talking about adding SCOTUS seats when you're behind on the score.
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:03 pm

89Hen wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Sums up Trump and his wall funding pretty well. Glad to see you're coming around, AZ. :thumb:

Or like talking about adding SCOTUS seats when you're behind on the score.


Or abolishing the EC because it didn’t get you the candidate you wanted
Or employing the nuclear option when you tried to get an extremist through the SC vetting process

That’s the donk mantra lately: don’t like the results? Just change the rules.
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby CID1990 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:17 pm

Here’s a thought exercise:

Why shouldn’t Trump just go ahead and nominate 4 new SCOTUS justices now, since the Dems seem to be making it a part of their platform?


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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:10 pm

CID1990 wrote:Here’s a thought exercise:

Why shouldn’t Trump just go ahead and nominate 4 new SCOTUS justices now, since the Dems seem to be making it a part of their platform?


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I had that exact thought about an hour ago after posting my post above yours. Load that motherfucker up! :notworthy:
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:48 pm

So, in a single page of this thread you went from being against court packing... to for it? :lol:
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Cid1990 wrote:It is going to be a sad day for a lot of people when all that comes of all of this is Flynn getting whacked.

Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Postby ∞∞∞ » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:50 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:So, in a single page of this thread you went from being against court packing... to for it? :lol:

:lol:

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Postby CID1990 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:43 pm

Either of you two want to ignore AZ for a second and take a shot at my question instead?


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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:50 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Here’s a thought exercise:

Why shouldn’t Trump just go ahead and nominate 4 new SCOTUS justices now, since the Dems seem to be making it a part of their platform?


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I had that exact thought about an hour ago after posting my post above yours. Load that motherfucker up! :notworthy:


There went the point, right over your head. :dunce: :dunce:
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Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:51 pm

CID1990 wrote:Either of you two want to ignore AZ for a second and take a shot at my question instead?


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Postby CID1990 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:26 pm

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CID1990 wrote:Either of you two want to ignore AZ for a second and take a shot at my question instead?


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:wtf: :willybs: :tothehand:


That's some strong sauce you got going on there, AZ

What brand?
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Gil Dobie wrote:Nature does not really show us Utopian societies. Nature behaves differently, similar to groups of animals, if you look at a wolf pack, lion pride, baboon troop, the alpha's eat first, breed first, then the rest are taken care of in order of importance.

Humans are the one species which expertly controls nature. But what if it masters that control? What if we master nano-technology, replication, robotics, augmented reality, unlimited energy, etc.?

Yes we're animals and even share similar DNA with some you listed, but humans are still vastly different.

I don't disagree with your statement, but I don't agree that it's a foundation to say utopias are impossible.



Because of human nature and greed, a Utopia will never happen.


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CID1990 wrote:Either of you two want to ignore AZ for a second and take a shot at my question instead?


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Postby CID1990 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:03 am

Nobody wants to take a stab, I guess
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:19 pm

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FBI joining criminal investigation into certification of Boeing 737 MAX

The FBI has joined the criminal investigation into the certification of the Boeing 737 MAX, lending its considerable resources to an inquiry already being conducted by U.S. Department of Transportation agents, according to people familiar with the matter.

The federal grand jury investigation, based in Washington, D.C., is looking into the certification process that approved the safety of the new Boeing plane, two of which have crashed since October.

The FBI’s Seattle field office lies in proximity to Boeing’s 737 manufacturing plant in Renton, as well as nearby offices of Boeing and Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) officials involved in the certification of the plane.

The investigation, which is being overseen by the U.S. Justice Department’s criminal division and carried out by the Transportation Department’s Inspector General, began in response to information obtained after a Lion Air 737 MAX 8 crashed shortly after takeoff from Jakarta on Oct. 29, killing 189 people, Bloomberg reported earlier this week, citing an unnamed source.

It has widened since then, The Associated Press reported this week, with the grand jury issuing a subpoena on March 11 for information from someone involved in the plane’s development, one day after the crash of an Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX 8 near Addis Ababa that killed 157 people.

The FBI’s support role was described by people on condition of anonymity because of the confidential nature of the investigation.


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Clitz (R) and klam (L)? :?

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Postby Skjellyfetti » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:22 pm

:rofl:

After Devin Nunes Sues a Parody Cow, It Surpasses Him on Twitter

Consider this: a parody account pretending to be an imaginary cow owned by Representative Devin Nunes, the California Republican, is more popular on Twitter than the congressman, a day after he sued the account (and Twitter) for $250 million.

This is how politics and humor now play out in the strange world of social media.

The parody account @DevinCow had only 1,200 followers on Monday, but it ended Wednesday afternoon with 467,000, surpassing Mr. Nunes’s account with its 395,000 followers. And the count was still growing.

But there’s more. A website now sells Devin Cow T-shirts. Twitter users have been celebrating with cow-themed items and jokes. Even Mr. Nunes’s fellow legislators showed their support for the errant beast. Ted Lieu, a Democratic congressman from Southern California, told Mr. Nunes on Twitter to “lighten up, dude.”

Of course, no one might have heard of @DevinCow if Mr. Nunes had not sued Twitter and other users for defamation on Tuesday, seeking $250 million and an end to online mockery he said no one should have to “suffer in their whole life.”


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Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Postby Col Hogan » Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:31 pm

I’m sure New Yorkers feel much safer knowing this...

Cuomo, NYPD chief call to ban repeat masturbators from NYC subway

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny ... story.html

The MTA Police Chief is OK with people evading fares...but wanking off is unacceptable on his trains...

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Postby Ibanez » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:41 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:So, in a single page of this thread you went from being against court packing... to for it? :lol:

You missed his point


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