April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

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Who would you vote for today?

Poll ended at Wed May 15, 2019 12:15 pm

Trump no matter what
13
35%
The Democrat no matter what
10
27%
Third Party/Independent/Write-in/Blank no matter what
7
19%
Trump, unless the donks nominate ___, which is unlikely
1
3%
The Democrat, unless the donks nominate ____, which is unlikely.
0
No votes
Third Party or Independent, unless the donks nominate ____, which is unlikely.
3
8%
Fvck dis Schit what's the point 2020
3
8%
 
Total votes: 37

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April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Pwns » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:15 pm

If you had to pick today, who would you pick?

And fill in the blank if your answer has a blank.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Ibanez » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:21 pm

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Chizzang » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:22 pm

I don't see Jill Stein..?

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just random 3rd party
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Winterborn » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:40 pm

Probably 3rd party again. Getting to the point were I would be fine with a little MAD.

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby GannonFan » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:48 pm

Well, I'm not voting Trump, so it's the Democrat unless they're crazy, but that could be likely, so I don't see the option clearly defined.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby CAA Flagship » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:53 pm

Chizzang wrote:I don't see Jill Stein..?

:ohno:

just random 3rd party

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby 89Hen » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:53 pm

G for me, but that's every year for an R in MD.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby AZGrizFan » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:20 pm

Third party, baby.

Have a fucking spine.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Ivytalk » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:25 pm

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby 89Hen » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:26 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:Third party, baby.

Have a fucking spine.

And here we go again. :roll: :coffee:
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Chizzang » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:52 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I don't see Jill Stein..?

:ohno:

just random 3rd party

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby CID1990 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:31 pm

Probably Libertarian Party. Unless they go full retard like the Dem Party is doing.


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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby JohnStOnge » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:43 pm

There are going to be two people with a chance to win. I will vote for one of them. And I haven't seen a Democrat enter the race nor have I heard of one that might enter the race that is anywhere near as bad as Trump. Maybe if they nominate Louis Farrakhan or something like that. But it'd take something that bad. And even then I'd probably go ahead and say "OK this time I won't vote for either of the two that have a chance to win." I would never vote for Trump no matter what.

Doesn't matter though because I live in Louisiana. I'm in one of those States illustrating why we shouldn't have the Electoral College. I'm disenfranchised in being opposed to Trump just as a person living in Massachusetts is disenfranchised in being in support of him. If the President were chosen based on who got more votes our votes would matter. With the Electoral College system they don't.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby kalm » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:02 pm

Has the Democratic Party taken any steps to minimize the power of their establishment? Unlikely.

So it will be Booker, Harris, Hildebrand, Klobuchar, Biden, or O’Rourke. Money talks and that process has already begun.

I would not vote for any of them even in a swing state.

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Winterborn » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:05 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:There are going to be two people with a chance to win. I will vote for one of them. And I haven't seen a Democrat enter the race nor have I heard of one that might enter the race that is anywhere near as bad as Trump. Maybe if they nominate Louis Farrakhan or something like that. But it'd take something that bad. And even then I'd probably go ahead and say "OK this time I won't vote for either of the two that have a chance to win." I would never vote for Trump no matter what.

Doesn't matter though because I live in Louisiana. I'm in one of those States illustrating why we shouldn't have the Electoral College. I'm disenfranchised in being opposed to Trump just as a person living in Massachusetts is disenfranchised in being in support of him. If the President were chosen based on who got more votes our votes would matter. With the Electoral College system they don't.


If you think your vote is not going to matter why not try and do a bit of good and vote 3rd party? At least in the national elections.

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby JohnStOnge » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:06 pm

Winterborn wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:There are going to be two people with a chance to win. I will vote for one of them. And I haven't seen a Democrat enter the race nor have I heard of one that might enter the race that is anywhere near as bad as Trump. Maybe if they nominate Louis Farrakhan or something like that. But it'd take something that bad. And even then I'd probably go ahead and say "OK this time I won't vote for either of the two that have a chance to win." I would never vote for Trump no matter what.

Doesn't matter though because I live in Louisiana. I'm in one of those States illustrating why we shouldn't have the Electoral College. I'm disenfranchised in being opposed to Trump just as a person living in Massachusetts is disenfranchised in being in support of him. If the President were chosen based on who got more votes our votes would matter. With the Electoral College system they don't.


If you think your vote is not going to matter why not try and do a bit of good and vote 3rd party? At least in the national elections.


Give us automatic runoff voting and I might do that.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby JohnStOnge » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:07 pm

kalm wrote:Has the Democratic Party taken any steps to minimize the power of their establishment? Unlikely.

So it will be Booker, Harris, Hildebrand, Klobuchar, Biden, or O’Rourke. Money talks and that process has already begun.

I would not vote for any of them even in a swing state.

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Winterborn » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:10 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
Winterborn wrote:
If you think your vote is not going to matter why not try and do a bit of good and vote 3rd party? At least in the national elections.


Give us automatic runoff voting and I might do that.


Well wouldn't the best way to do that would be to vote 3rd party and show that there is enough people who are fed up with the status quo applicants?

Why wait till until some arbitrary runoff system, do your best to intact some change for the better now.

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby kalm » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:15 pm

Winterborn wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Give us automatic runoff voting and I might do that.


Well wouldn't the best way to do that would be to vote 3rd party and show that there is enough people who are fed up with the status quo applicants?

Why wait till until some arbitrary runoff system, do your best to intact some change for the better now.


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April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby CID1990 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:23 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:There are going to be two people with a chance to win. I will vote for one of them. And I haven't seen a Democrat enter the race nor have I heard of one that might enter the race that is anywhere near as bad as Trump. Maybe if they nominate Louis Farrakhan or something like that. But it'd take something that bad. And even then I'd probably go ahead and say "OK this time I won't vote for either of the two that have a chance to win." I would never vote for Trump no matter what.

Doesn't matter though because I live in Louisiana. I'm in one of those States illustrating why we shouldn't have the Electoral College. I'm disenfranchised in being opposed to Trump just as a person living in Massachusetts is disenfranchised in being in support of him. If the President were chosen based on who got more votes our votes would matter. With the Electoral College system they don't.


We are a representative Republic of states, JSO. It will not change until 2/3rds of the states decide to (never).

If you want to live in a democracy that chooses its heads of state by direct election, I suggest you choose from the list of countries that use that method.

There are a few good ones but overall the list does not contain exemplars of good governance.


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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby GannonFan » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:40 pm

CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:There are going to be two people with a chance to win. I will vote for one of them. And I haven't seen a Democrat enter the race nor have I heard of one that might enter the race that is anywhere near as bad as Trump. Maybe if they nominate Louis Farrakhan or something like that. But it'd take something that bad. And even then I'd probably go ahead and say "OK this time I won't vote for either of the two that have a chance to win." I would never vote for Trump no matter what.

Doesn't matter though because I live in Louisiana. I'm in one of those States illustrating why we shouldn't have the Electoral College. I'm disenfranchised in being opposed to Trump just as a person living in Massachusetts is disenfranchised in being in support of him. If the President were chosen based on who got more votes our votes would matter. With the Electoral College system they don't.


We are a representative Republic of states, JSO. It will not change until 2/3rds of the states decide to (never).

If you want to live in a democracy that chooses its heads of state by direct election, I suggest you choose from the list of countries that use that method.

There are a few good ones but overall the list does not contain exemplars of good governance.


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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby Pwns » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:57 pm

89Hen wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Third party, baby.

Have a fucking spine.

And here we go again. :roll: :coffee:


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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby HI54UNI » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:53 pm

kalm wrote:Has the Democratic Party taken any steps to minimize the power of their establishment? Unlikely.

So it will be Booker, Harris, Hildebrand, Klobuchar, Biden, or O’Rourke. Money talks and that process has already begun.

I would not vote for any of them even in a swing state.

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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby 93henfan » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:40 am

If I do vote, it won't be for Trump. That's all I know right now. You don't get my vote when you declare war on me and my family.
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Re: April 2019 Presidential Preference Poll

Postby CID1990 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:45 am

I think everyone should vote out of principle.

If not for the obvious implications on personal liberty, I would even support the Australian model of compulsory voting.

I think most people who don’t vote are apathetic and want to just be left alone. Those are exactly the people I want to be voting.


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