We're 27th!

[AZGrizFan]

I'll take option 4, but with a caveat that I was never off topic asshat. We're not #1 in tons of categories... who cares? Finland probably has less hate crime. Is that because they have better police, better schooling, or could it be because they are pretty homogeneous?

You're not really who I was targeting with that post (*cough .... AZ)
But you make a great point about Finland and a homogeneous population

We have more sub-cultures here in the U.S.
and frankly some of our subcultures are large and defiant

The anti-education anti-socialization movements from our black population
we have a growing anti-science anti-education movement from our fundamentalists

It's difficult to get everybody on the same page
in a nation as large and culturally diverse and free as the U.S.

I'm not denying we're 27th (by their stupid cumulative scoring model) but it doesn't change the fact people aren't flocking to those 26 countries to get their educations and medical procedures done.

[Ibanez]

BTW, we're also 27th in another category...

Suicides per 100k
1 Lithuania
2 Russia
3 Guyana
4 South Korea
5 Belarus
6 Suriname
7 Kazakhstan
8 Ukraine
9 Latvia
10 Lesotho
11 Belgium
12 Hungary
13 Slovenia
14 Japan
15 Uruguay
16 Estonia
17 France
18 Switzerland
19 Croatia
20 Equatorial Guinea
21 India
22 Poland
23 Moldova
24 Finland
25 Serbia
26 Austria
27 United States

Damn Finland beat us out again.

Central Europe...

Soviet blocs.


And where the hell is Lesotho?

[kalm]

Wait...do you think I'm the person who came up with 6.93?

No. I'm not even sure you were on AGS when that happened with OSBF.

Point was folks love to bring up 6.93 all the time and it's not because they are sore about. It's actually the opposite. They think it's funny. Like you slobbering over a US bank overhaul using Iceland as your basis.

I guess what I'm saying is that Iceland banks were close to your 6.93 moment.

You mean the thread where I posted the article about prosecuting bankers and letting big banks fail?

‘We’d pursue justice and allow capitalism to run its course but gosh darn it, we’re just too big!’

It’s a good thing we could never adopt a democratic political system similar to the Iroquois Confederacy. Too small!

You still think you won that?

[kalm]

Wait...do you think I'm the person who came up with 6.93?

You might as well be!

That cuts real deep, Andy.

[89Hen]

No. I'm not even sure you were on AGS when that happened with OSBF.

Point was folks love to bring up 6.93 all the time and it's not because they are sore about. It's actually the opposite. They think it's funny. Like you slobbering over a US bank overhaul using Iceland as your basis.

I guess what I'm saying is that Iceland banks were close to your 6.93 moment.

You mean the thread where I posted the article about prosecuting bankers and letting big banks fail?

‘We’d pursue justice and allow capitalism to run its course but gosh darn it, we’re just too big!’

It’s a good thing we could never adopt a democratic political system similar to the Iroquois Confederacy. Too small!

You still think you won that?

Think? Know.

[kalm]

You mean the thread where I posted the article about prosecuting bankers and letting big banks fail?

‘We’d pursue justice and allow capitalism to run its course but gosh darn it, we’re just too big!’

It’s a good thing we could never adopt a democratic political system similar to the Iroquois Confederacy. Too small!

You still think you won that?

Think? Know.

Yes...I’m quite sure you think you know.

JSO bailed you out in that thread with the Icelandic singers derailment (god I love CS) or else it would have been an even worse loss for you.

[89Hen]

Think? Know.

Yes...I’m quite sure you think you know.

JSO bailed you out in that thread with the Icelandic singers derailment (god I love CS) or else it would have been an even worse loss for you.

Forgot about that, but that was a much later thread... years later thread.

https://business.financialpost.com/news ... mic-crisis

[houndawg]

For the same reason you think I'm sore about Icelandic banks.

Wait...do you think I'm the person who came up with 6.93?

I've noticed he's lost a step lately too.

[Pwns]

Normalize deaths for obesity-related ailments, smoking-related ailments, and use a uniform definition of infant mortality, and then come back and report the health of the country.

[Pwns]

I'll take option 4, but with a caveat that I was never off topic asshat. We're not #1 in tons of categories... who cares? Finland probably has less hate crime. Is that because they have better police, better schooling, or could it be because they are pretty homogeneous?

You're not really who I was targeting with that post (*cough .... AZ)
But you make a great point about Finland and a homogeneous population

We have more sub-cultures here in the U.S.
and frankly some of our subcultures are large and defiant

The anti-education anti-socialization movements from our black population
we have a growing anti-science anti-education movement from our fundamentalists

It's difficult to get everybody on the same page
in a nation as large and culturally diverse and free as the U.S.

The bolded is spot on.

You need only look at the massive amounts of money Chicago schools got under Obama grant programs that did zilch to improve them. But we can't talk about this unless it's to blame "systemic racism" for the problems with these schools.

Instead, we ignore that problem is with the whole system is broken and as a result we get dumbass policies supported by both major parties like No Child Left Behind and Common Core and the silly idea any kid can grow up to be an orthopedic surgeon if only there's enough enthusiasm and hard work by teachers.

[CID1990]

Think? Know.

Yes...I’m quite sure you think you know.

JSO bailed you out in that thread with the Icelandic singers derailment (god I love CS) or else it would have been an even worse loss for you.

That's what OCDJSO does

[mainejeff]

30 years of Reaganomics and establishment thinking from both sides of the aisle.

As I've said many times, human infrastructure is an important investment as well, and one which we've been neglecting.

USA ranked 27th in the world in education and healthcare—down from 6th in 1990
America continues to tread water in healthcare and education while other countries have enacted reforms to great effect.

SCOTTY HENDRICKS
03 October, 2018

The American healthcare and education systems are known to need some work, but a new study suggests we've fallen far in comparison to the rest of the world.
The findings show what progress, if any, 195 countries have made over the last twenty years
The study suggests that economic growth is tied to human capital, which gives a dire view of America's economic prospects.

The concept of human capital has only been around since the '50s but it's become an increasingly popular way of looking at the economic potential of countries. Typically defined as "the attributes of a population that, along with physical capital such as buildings, equipment, and other tangible assets, contribute to economic productivity" it includes things such as education levels, skill sets, and other intangible items that foster economic growth.

While we already know that a countries' average education level is associated with its economic growth, a recent study looking into the growth of human capital around the world over the last 26 years has included healthcare outcomes to the mix. While it was created to help motivate lower and middle income countries to increase their human capital investment, it offers a harsh look at the progress the United States has made over the previous 20; if any.

https://bigthink.com/politics-current-a ... healthcare

Take a look around and listen......it shows!

[Ivytalk]

The Finns believe in Finnish exceptionalism, the Icelanders believe in Icelandic exceptionalism...

There’s something to be said about inbreeding.

[AZGrizFan]

Still waiting for the list of countries people are flocking too for their education and healthcare....

[BDKJMU]

Just curious, for all the lust towards the Finnish school system where has that got them?

Top 10 in standard of living, happiness index, education....

And they have literally a 99+% non hispanic white population
https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-is ... ut-finland
compared to about 62% for the US.

The above link says only 2% foreign born. A more recent I saw says 3.5%. Either way compare that to about 13.5% of the US.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1LT2HZ

So if you compared to Finland the native born, non hispanic white population of the US, you’d have way different results.

I can see why the Finns are happy..

[kalm]

Top 10 in standard of living, happiness index, education....

And they have literally a 99+% non hispanic white population
https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-is ... ut-finland
compared to about 62% for the US.

The above link says only 2% foreign born. A more recent I saw says 3.5%. Either way compare that to about 13.5% of the US.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1LT2HZ

So if you compared to Finland the native born, non hispanic white population of the US, you’d have way different results.

I can see why the Finns are happy..

Why does that matter? Our system should be good enough to make anyone happy.

[BDKJMU]

And they have literally a 99+% non hispanic white population
https://vdare.com/articles/diversity-is ... ut-finland
compared to about 62% for the US.

The above link says only 2% foreign born. A more recent I saw says 3.5%. Either way compare that to about 13.5% of the US.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1LT2HZ

So if you compared to Finland the native born, non hispanic white population of the US, you’d have way different results.

I can see why the Finns are happy..

Why does that matter? Our system should be good enough to make anyone happy.

Easier for a homogenous society to be happier than a non homogenous one..

And your OP was about education and healthcare. Again easier to be higher in both when when have a virtually 100% native born non hispanic white population. Again compare the health care and education results of the native born, non Hispanic white population in the US to Finland and the results would probably be much closer.

[HI54UNI]

Still waiting for the list of countries people are flocking too for their education and healthcare....

That's why Mick Jagger went to Finland for his recent medical procedure.......

[kalm]

Still waiting for the list of countries people are flocking too for their education and healthcare....

89hen wrote:

And Budweiser is the most popular beer in the world.

[andy7171]

You might as well be!

That cuts real deep, Andy.

Well, you're more of a stickler for the regulatory bureaucracy.

[89Hen]

Still waiting for the list of countries people are flocking too for their education and healthcare....

89hen wrote:

And Budweiser is the most popular beer in the world.

You must have be rereading the last Iceland thread... which was universally great.

[AZGrizFan]

Still waiting for the list of countries people are flocking too for their education and healthcare....

That's why Mick Jagger went to Finland for his recent medical procedure.......

Exactly. Because its so efficient.

[kalm]

That cuts real deep, Andy.

Well, you're more of a stickler for the regulatory bureaucracy.

Sigh....

I fucking hate bureaucracy. But I do believe in regulating banks so they can’t take down the entire economy and then get rewarded for bad behavior by receiving a bailout from the tax payers.

You obviously disagree, and that’s ok.

[89Hen]

I do believe in regulating banks so they can’t take down the entire economy

You'd rather the government take down the banks and the entire economy with them.

[kalm]

I do believe in regulating banks so they can’t take down the entire economy

You'd rather the government take down the banks and the entire economy with them.

Please list all the times that reasonable banking regulation took down entire capitalistic economies.