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I think the lines about Democrats and "wealth envy" are used too much, but this one is blatant.

Who knew baseball players were government employees? :dunce:
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Pwns wrote:I think the lines about Democrats and "wealth envy" are used too much, but this one is blatant.

Who knew baseball players were government employees? :dunce:
Yup, it's a dead end type of reasoning...
and frankly K-12 education should be privatized - that would solve the money problem pretty quickly

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it would leave the poor and non English speaking behind but it would solve the money problem
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Chizzang wrote:
Pwns wrote:I think the lines about Democrats and "wealth envy" are used too much, but this one is blatant.

Who knew baseball players were government employees? :dunce:
Yup, it's a dead end type of reasoning...
and frankly K-12 education should be privatized - that would solve the money problem pretty quickly

:nod:

it would leave the poor and non English speaking behind but it would solve the money problem
Sarcasm detected... :|
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That didn't answer the question.
I like her for her mind ;)

..... and talk of issues, instead of constantly bashing Trump.
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Chizzang wrote:
Pwns wrote:I think the lines about Democrats and "wealth envy" are used too much, but this one is blatant.

Who knew baseball players were government employees? :dunce:
Yup, it's a dead end type of reasoning...
and frankly K-12 education should be privatized - that would solve the money problem pretty quickly

:nod:

it would leave the poor and non English speaking behind but it would solve the money problem
So much for America the Land of Opportunity.

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Mayor Pete goes on Fox News Town Hall.....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pete-b ... nald-trump

“If we ignore the viewers of Fox News and every news platform that doesn’t share our worldview, we will surrender our ability to speak directly to millions of American voters,” Buttigieg asserted. “If we don’t show up, the conservative media will tell our side of the story for us.” :thumb:

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mainejeff wrote:Mayor Pete goes on Fox News Town Hall.....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pete-b ... nald-trump

“If we ignore the viewers of Fox News and every news platform that doesn’t share our worldview, we will surrender our ability to speak directly to millions of American voters,” Buttigieg asserted. “If we don’t show up, the conservative media will tell our side of the story for us.” :thumb:

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Only Father Time can catch Biden now. It’s all over. 8-)

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Pwns wrote:I think the lines about Democrats and "wealth envy" are used too much, but this one is blatant.

Who knew baseball players were government employees? :dunce:
I think he should have said "if book writers can make millions......" :shock:

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UNI88 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Yup, it's a dead end type of reasoning...
and frankly K-12 education should be privatized - that would solve the money problem pretty quickly

:nod:

it would leave the poor and non English speaking behind but it would solve the money problem
So much for America the Land of Opportunity.
Sanders needs to be smart enough to NOT talk about money...
There are ways to get teachers paid and privatization of education is one of them
State run Socialism Education is not...

Bernie needs to pick one and go with it
but arguing about market driven pay scales and socialism pay scales is retarded

if you want market driven pay scales for teachers then privatize K-12
and I promise you teachers will GET PAID

They'll also:
Get Fired
be forced to compete
have to work 12 months a year
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Chizzang wrote:
UNI88 wrote:So much for America the Land of Opportunity.
Sanders needs to be smart enough to NOT talk about money...
There are ways to get teachers paid and privatization of education is one of them
State run Socialism Education is not...

Bernie needs to pick one and go with it
but arguing about market driven pay scales and socialism pay scales is retarded

if you want market driven pay scales for teachers then privatize K-12
and I promise you teachers will GET PAID

They'll also:
Get Fired
be forced to compete
have to work 12 months a year
Sounds promising. Where else has this worked?
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kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Sanders needs to be smart enough to NOT talk about money...
There are ways to get teachers paid and privatization of education is one of them
State run Socialism Education is not...

Bernie needs to pick one and go with it
but arguing about market driven pay scales and socialism pay scales is retarded

if you want market driven pay scales for teachers then privatize K-12
and I promise you teachers will GET PAID

They'll also:
Get Fired
be forced to compete
have to work 12 months a year
Sounds promising. Where else has this worked?
College.



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Sanders going after the black vote in SC:
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Sounds promising. Where else has this worked?
College.



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Bingo..!
I got no issue with Socialism - we're practically 75% of they way there already
But when you argue about market driven wages vs. socialized wages you show that you're not very bright

There is no confusion about how people "get paid" among Economists and students of markets
Even barbaric troglodytes like alphagriz get the concept - want more money - take more risks
Socialism is inherently low risk low reward personal security based low productivity over employment
see: U.S. Military as exhibit A

:lol:

Bernie does himself no favors when he talks economics using what amounts to a bad mixed metaphor
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Lol. Please show me a college professor that works 12 months a year. That’s fucking comical.
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BDKJMU wrote:Sanders going after the black vote in SC:
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He has to.

The SC A-A vote is VERY establishment. They go for the traditional, retail Democrats.

TBH, I am beginning to think it doesn’t matter. I thought there would be a Biden bump but this is pretty sustained now. Biden is still blowing Bernie out of the water. Harris has dropped behind Buttigieg, so the top 3 Dem candidates atm are white males, with Biden WAY out front. And, he isn’t even being all that apologetic about his past (though hes been pandering on Anita Hill).

This is going to be enjoyable watching the SJWs and other assorted nuts seethe. And the Biden-Trump debates are going to be EPIC

I think 3/4ths of the field will drop out halfway through the primaries - but Kamala will stay in and there will be (quite coincidental ;) ) chemistry between them. And then she’ll be his running mate.


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CID1990 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Sanders going after the black vote in SC:
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I think 3/4ths of the field will drop out halfway through the primaries - but Kamala will stay in and there will be (quite coincidental ;) ) chemistry between them. And then she’ll be his running mate.


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Yeah....Biden/Harris is as predictable as vanilla & chocolate ice cream. ;) :o

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BDKJMU wrote:Sanders going after the black vote in SC:
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AZGrizFan wrote:Lol. Please show me a college professor that works 12 months a year. That’s fucking comical.
I can see that.
In between semesters, college professors aren't just siting on their hands. When my father in law was teaching college, he'd was working 12 months, that included running multiple summer camps, writing or editing cookbooks, developing curriculum, conducting professional certification and continuing education courses, planning for the upcoming semesters.

It's different than adjunct professors like my wife who might teach of 3 semesters straight then not have a class for 1-2 semesters.
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
College.



:coffee:
Bingo..!
I got no issue with Socialism - we're practically 75% of they way there already
But when you argue about market driven wages vs. socialized wages you show that you're not very bright

There is no confusion about how people "get paid" among Economists and students of markets
Even barbaric troglodytes like alphagriz get the concept - want more money - take more risks
Socialism is inherently low risk low reward personal security based low productivity over employment
see: U.S. Military as exhibit A

:lol:

Bernie does himself no favors when he talks economics using what amounts to a bad mixed metaphor
Man, you are all over the map with this one. :|
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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Lol. Please show me a college professor that works 12 months a year. That’s fucking comical.
I can see that.
In between semesters, college professors aren't just siting on their hands. When my father in law was teaching college, he'd was working 12 months, that included running multiple summer camps, writing or editing cookbooks, developing curriculum, conducting professional certification and continuing education courses, planning for the upcoming semesters.

It's different than adjunct professors like my wife who might teach of 3 semesters straight then not have a class for 1-2 semesters.
*he

Exactly. He wasn't working 12 months AT the college.
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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Lol. Please show me a college professor that works 12 months a year. That’s fucking comical.
I can see that.
In between semesters, college professors aren't just siting on their hands. When my father in law was teaching college, he'd was working 12 months, that included running multiple summer camps, writing or editing cookbooks, developing curriculum, conducting professional certification and continuing education courses, planning for the upcoming semesters.

It's different than adjunct professors like my wife who might teach of 3 semesters straight then not have a class for 1-2 semesters.
And most K-12 teachers I know are either going through continuing Ed during summers, teaching summer school, moonlighting the wheat harvest, working at golf courses, volunteering as coaches, etc.

Those who can, teach. Those who can’t often have no clue regarding the profession and are simply bitching about those massive teacher’s salaries.

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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I can see that.
In between semesters, college professors aren't just siting on their hands. When my father in law was teaching college, he'd was working 12 months, that included running multiple summer camps, writing or editing cookbooks, developing curriculum, conducting professional certification and continuing education courses, planning for the upcoming semesters.

It's different than adjunct professors like my wife who might teach of 3 semesters straight then not have a class for 1-2 semesters.
*he

Exactly. He wasn't working 12 months AT the college.
I didn’t say that, Tom.

Those summer camps, CE courses, editing were all done through the college. At the college. On location. He was paid by the school.

Trust me, AZ. I know more about my experience than you. You asked for an example and I supplied one. He wasn’t alone either so you can count that as 10 more cases. Just at one school.


My sister used to teach nursing. Even during the summer, she would teach summer classes and work as a liaison between the school and local hospitals year round. Nursing students will go to work in the hospitals as part of the curriculum.



I’ll wait for you to tell me what I witnessed for 9 years was a fabrication.

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Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
*he

Exactly. He wasn't working 12 months AT the college.
I didn’t say that, Tom.

Those summer camps, CE courses, editing were all done through the college. At the college. On location. He was paid by the school.

Trust me, AZ. I know more about my experience than you. You asked for an example and I supplied one. He wasn’t alone either so you can count that as 10 more cases. Just at one school.


My sister used to teach nursing. Even during the summer, she would teach summer classes and work as a liaison between the school and local hospitals year round. Nursing students will go to work in the hospitals as part of the curriculum.



I’ll wait for you to tell me what I witnessed for 9 years was a fabrication.

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