https://finance.yahoo.com/news/forget-y ... 31971.html
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CitadelGrad wrote:The inverted yield curve has accurately predicted 50 of the last 5 recessions.


Hyperbole much...CAA Flagship wrote:Don't forget, he is bringing China to it's knees:
China's economy worsens in July, industrial growth at 17-year low as trade war escalates
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chin ... SKCN1V404X
Agreed. The trade war is one factor, but it's one of many affecting Chinese growth. Some are self-inflicted, but ultimately the natural growth from an agrarian-to-industrial society is going to be much larger than an industrialized nation becoming more industrialized (which is now the case with China).Chizzang wrote:Hyperbole much...CAA Flagship wrote:Don't forget, he is bringing China to it's knees:
China's economy worsens in July, industrial growth at 17-year low as trade war escalates
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chin ... SKCN1V404X



That's akin to a recession for China.∞∞∞ wrote:Agreed. The trade war is one factor, but it's one of many affecting Chinese growth. Some are self-inflicted, but ultimately the natural growth from an agrarian-to-industrial society is going to be much larger than an industrialized nation becoming more industrialized (which is now the case with China).Chizzang wrote:
Hyperbole much...
A projected growth of 5.8% is still no joke though; we'd be ecstatic for those numbers.


I can't count the number of times some dude on CNBC predicted a recession that never occurred because the yield curve was inverted.AZGrizFan wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:The inverted yield curve has accurately predicted 50 of the last 5 recessions.
oooohhhh….SO, so close...
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Inverted yield curve is batting 1000 since 1970.CitadelGrad wrote:I can't count the number of times some dude on CNBC predicted a recession that never occurred because the yield curve was inverted.AZGrizFan wrote:
oooohhhh….SO, so close...
Thanks for playing!![]()


AZGrizFan wrote:On a positive note, if you've got any $$ in precious metals, those are going through the roof in the past couple days...up over 10% in just the past month alone.
https://www.kitco.com/charts/popup/ag1825nyb.html




Well, lets hope the last 50 years of economic data are somehow wrong.Pwns wrote:Honestly, I think we're in uncharted waters and no economist really knows where things will go.
You've got a trade deal going on and you have talks at the fed of cutting interest rates after an extended period of growth. I'm not so sure how using historical data really applies here.


AZGrizFan wrote:And yesterday the 30 year went BELOW 2%, sitting at 1.98%. The entire curve is now officially inverted. That means recession before next spring.
Looks like JSO and Bill Maher are going to get their wish. Fucking assholes wishing ill will on all Americans because they don't like somebody. 300 million people have to suffer so they can get their way.![]()
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True. I misspoke slightly...I was looking at the ENTIRE curve, including the 1 mo and 2 mo bills....we might yet be safe!CAA Flagship wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:And yesterday the 30 year went BELOW 2%, sitting at 1.98%. The entire curve is now officially inverted. That means recession before next spring.
Looks like JSO and Bill Maher are going to get their wish. Fucking assholes wishing ill will on all Americans because they don't like somebody. 300 million people have to suffer so they can get their way.![]()
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Inversion doesn't have anything to do with what level a bond yield is at. It has to do with the bond yield relative to the other bond yields. The 30 year yield was still above the 2, 5, and 10 year yields where it belongs. So not sure what you are saying there.



That is a pretty hilarious article written a day before Lehman Bros imploded.Pwns wrote:When even Paul Krugman says you shouldn't panic yet...
Though the idea that doesn't have any good historical comparisons isn't really a reassuring thing.


Holy SHIT. Treep and I agree on something!!!∞∞∞ wrote:Well recessions are a bit born from self-fulfilling prophecies.
Theoretically, you can have an indefinitely strong economy without ever running across a recession (as long as good economic practices are maintained). Of course human irrationality makes it nearly impossible. We see "signs" of a recession, horde money, stop investing, sell assets, not hiring, etc...and create a recession.
I believe a recession will happen not because of the inverted yield curve or any other "sign," but companies, investors, and even regular people are beginning to act like a recession is going to happen.




Skjellyfetti wrote:That is a pretty hilarious article written a day before Lehman Bros imploded.Pwns wrote:When even Paul Krugman says you shouldn't panic yet...
Though the idea that doesn't have any good historical comparisons isn't really a reassuring thing.![]()


As usual, when Krugman the Economist writes something, it’s 20% economics and 80% liberal Archie BunkerPwns wrote:When even Paul Krugman says you shouldn't panic yet...
Though the idea that doesn't have any good historical comparisons isn't really a reassuring thing.