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Pwns wrote:All you have to do is bring up the issue of H1B visas to get suburban liberal whites complaining about foreigners coming into the country and driving down wages and and taking people's jobs. But when Bubba and Jim complain about illegal Mexican immigrants they're bigots. Why? And on that note why is strong opposition to illegal immigration by black voters ignored? Are they a bunch of racist, xenophobic bigots too? Or is it that white liberals can afford to love it because their neighborhoods will have some distance to where poor immigrants live?

The idea that either party wants to make immigration work for America is laughable. Democrats just want more anchor babies and naturalizations to change the demographics in their favor and Republicans investor class donors want the labor.
In my experience, it's the conservative whites that complain about that not liberals.
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
That ^ is a stone cold fact...

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I'm not sure I know what you two old hens mean when you say "whole immigration thing"
You clearly haven't been paying any attention to our President then...
and frankly I don't blame you

Immigrants are stealing our jobs
Immigrants are murdering our women
Immigrants are destroying our country

and all we have to do is enforce our hiring laws already on the books and the problem takes care of itself
no wall required - no jobs no wall

instead we get the dog and pony show as shown nightly on Fox news and CNN
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I'm not sure I know what you two old hens mean when you say "whole immigration thing"
You clearly haven't been paying any attention to our President then...
and frankly I don't blame you

Immigrants are stealing our jobs
Immigrants are murdering our women
Immigrants are destroying our country

and all we have to do is enforce our hiring laws already on the books and the problem takes care of itself
no wall required - no jobs no wall

instead we get the dog and pony show as shown nightly on Fox news and CNN
That's an interesting proposal. Arrest US citizens to stop illegal immigration. That makes sense since we know it's wrong to arrest illegal immigrants.
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89Hen wrote:That makes sense since we know it's wrong to arrest illegal immigrants.
Plenty of cases where the illegal immigrants hasn't broken any laws but the employer has. :nod:
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Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I'm not sure I know what you two old hens mean when you say "whole immigration thing"
You clearly haven't been paying any attention to our President then...
and frankly I don't blame you

Immigrants are stealing our jobs
Immigrants are murdering our women
Immigrants are destroying our country

and all we have to do is enforce our hiring laws already on the books and the problem takes care of itself
no wall required - no jobs no wall

instead we get the dog and pony show as shown nightly on Fox news and CNN
1. You clearly don't understand Trump, or negotiations. Extremes are often discussed during negotiations with the hopes of settling somewhere that is satisfactory in between. Trump has been doing this from the beginning.
2. When the Dems take over and offer free education, free healthcare, universal basic incomes, etc., do you think the flood of illegal immigrants will stop because jobs are less prevalent for them?

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CAA Flagship wrote: 1. You clearly don't understand Trump, or negotiations. Extremes are often discussed during negotiations with the hopes of settling somewhere that is satisfactory in between. Trump has been doing this from the beginning.
What's your best example of Trump's negotiation skills as President?
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Plenty of cases where the illegal immigrants hasn't broken any laws
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: 1. You clearly don't understand Trump, or negotiations. Extremes are often discussed during negotiations with the hopes of settling somewhere that is satisfactory in between. Trump has been doing this from the beginning.
What's your best example of Trump's negotiation skills as President?
USMCA? Pretty sure there was some middle ground that was settled on.

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
89Hen wrote:That makes sense since we know it's wrong to arrest illegal immigrants.
Plenty of cases where the illegal immigrants hasn't broken any laws but the employer has. :nod:
Did you proofread this post? :lol:

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
What's your best example of Trump's negotiation skills as President?
USMCA? Pretty sure there was some middle ground that was settled on.
Until ratified, the USMCA is useless.


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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: USMCA? Pretty sure there was some middle ground that was settled on.
Until ratified, the USMCA is useless.


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True, but the negotiations are done. Just a matter of the vote.

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89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You clearly haven't been paying any attention to our President then...
and frankly I don't blame you

Immigrants are stealing our jobs
Immigrants are murdering our women
Immigrants are destroying our country

and all we have to do is enforce our hiring laws already on the books and the problem takes care of itself
no wall required - no jobs no wall

instead we get the dog and pony show as shown nightly on Fox news and CNN
That's an interesting proposal. Arrest US citizens to stop illegal immigration. That makes sense since we know it's wrong to arrest illegal immigrants.
It's literally that stupid............

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
89Hen wrote:That makes sense since we know it's wrong to arrest illegal immigrants.
Plenty of cases where the illegal immigrants hasn't broken any laws but the employer has. :nod:
They broke the law coming here that "Trumps" their employment.

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89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You clearly haven't been paying any attention to our President then...
and frankly I don't blame you

Immigrants are stealing our jobs
Immigrants are murdering our women
Immigrants are destroying our country

and all we have to do is enforce our hiring laws already on the books and the problem takes care of itself
no wall required - no jobs no wall

instead we get the dog and pony show as shown nightly on Fox news and CNN
That's an interesting proposal. Arrest US citizens to stop illegal immigration. That makes sense since we know it's wrong to arrest illegal immigrants.
Are we trying to fix the problem or not...
I have no problem arresting illegal immigrants and I never suggested otherwise
but to SOLVE the problem you have to have a cure...

You understand: Prevention vs. Cure right ..?

The cure is eliminating illegal hiring
prevention is rounding up illegals every 12 months and making a show of it to inspire the dullards
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I'm not sure I know what you two old hens mean when you say "whole immigration thing"
You clearly haven't been paying any attention to our President then...
and frankly I don't blame you

Immigrants are stealing our jobs
Immigrants are murdering our women
Immigrants are destroying our country

and all we have to do is enforce our hiring laws already on the books and the problem takes care of itself
no wall required - no jobs no wall

instead we get the dog and pony show as shown nightly on Fox news and CNN
I agree that immigration is a Conk dog and pony show but its not the only one for either side. Most major issues are used by the parties as dog and pony shows used to whip the base into a frenzy - immigration, gun control, etc.

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Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: That's an interesting proposal. Arrest US citizens to stop illegal immigration. That makes sense since we know it's wrong to arrest illegal immigrants.
Are we trying to fix the problem or not...
I have no problem arresting illegal immigrants and I never suggested otherwise
but to SOLVE the problem you have to have a cure...

You understand: Prevention vs. Cure right ..?

The cure is eliminating illegal hiring
prevention is rounding up illegals every 12 months and making a show of it to inspire the dullards
And I have no problem prosecuting folks that knowingly hire illegals. So we agree. :thumb:
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Baldy wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Plenty of cases where the illegal immigrant hasn't broken any laws but the employer has. :nod:
Did you proofread this post? :lol:

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:They broke the law coming here that "Trumps" their employment.

Most illegal immigrants are here illegally because they overstayed their visas. It's not a crime to overstay your visa.
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Cid1990 wrote:It is going to be a sad day for a lot of people when all that comes of all of this is Flynn getting whacked.

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89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Are we trying to fix the problem or not...
I have no problem arresting illegal immigrants and I never suggested otherwise
but to SOLVE the problem you have to have a cure...

You understand: Prevention vs. Cure right ..?

The cure is eliminating illegal hiring
prevention is rounding up illegals every 12 months and making a show of it to inspire the dullards
And I have no problem prosecuting folks that knowingly hire illegals. So we agree. :thumb:
we agree
but we are presently only doing one... and not the other (Why?)
and in turn we will actually "fix nothing"

:nod:

Can we agree on that ?
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Chizzang wrote:
89Hen wrote: And I have no problem prosecuting folks that knowingly hire illegals. So we agree. :thumb:
we agree
but we are presently only doing one... and not the other (Why?)
and in turn we will actually "fix nothing"

:nod:

Can we agree on that ?
Barely doing one and I don't know how many employers get in trouble for hiring. We need to do both, and even though you don't come right out and say it, you seem to imply that you're in favor of only doing one because you think it would take care of the other. I don't agree with that.
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89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Are we trying to fix the problem or not...
I have no problem arresting illegal immigrants and I never suggested otherwise
but to SOLVE the problem you have to have a cure...

You understand: Prevention vs. Cure right ..?

The cure is eliminating illegal hiring
prevention is rounding up illegals every 12 months and making a show of it to inspire the dullards
And I have no problem prosecuting folks that knowingly hire illegals. So we agree. :thumb:
Nobody does, but they still need to stop the invasion

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https://www.usnews.com/news/national-ne ... al-workers
IMMIGRATION ADVOCATES and enforcement agents may not agree on much, but there is one group that the two sides have long pushed to put under greater scrutiny: the employers who hire workers who are in the country illegally.

The Trump administration appeared to take a step toward that goal this month, launching a widely publicized series of raids at close to 100 7-Eleven locations in towns and cities across the country.
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https://cis.org/North/Its-About-Time-Em ... gal-Aliens
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Asplundh, the tree-trimming company, has been hit by a $96 million penalty for hiring (and rehiring) illegal alien workers. According to the federal prosecutors it is the largest payment ever levied in an immigration case.
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89Hen wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
we agree
but we are presently only doing one... and not the other (Why?)
and in turn we will actually "fix nothing"

:nod:

Can we agree on that ?
Barely doing one and I don't know how many employers get in trouble for hiring. We need to do both, and even though you don't come right out and say it, you seem to imply that you're in favor of only doing one because you think it would take care of the other. I don't agree with that.
Throw one fancy pants CEO in jail and shit would move a fuck of a lot faster...
presently they have NOTHING to fear by hiring illegals

in fact it's supported - our president has had illegal employees

So... we do one thing
We entertain the masses by rounding up illegals
and refuse to address "The Hiring Issue"

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Baldy wrote: Did you proofread this post? :lol:

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Most illegal immigrants are here illegally because they overstayed their visas. It's not a crime to overstay your visa.
What Happens When You Overstay Your Visa or I-94?
Whenever someone enters the United States on a visa (or using the Visa Waiver Program), that person is given a date by which he or she must leave. For some visitors, such as tourists and seasonal workers, the required departure date may be a few months away. For others, such as students or workers, it may be several years away. If your departure day passes, and you overstay your visa, you're in the United States unlawfully.

There's not much difference under U.S. immigration law between someone who enters unlawfully, without a visa, and someone who stays past the time permitted. When you overstay, you become what's called "out of status." If immigration officials catch up with you, will will likely be removed, and face further consequences.
If you overstay your Visa, you are breaking the law. Period. :nod:

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89Hen wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Not according to the SSA:
“..Generally, only noncitizens authorized to work in the United States by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can get a Social Security number.”
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10096.pdf
If an illegal produces a SS#, its highly likely stolen.
Course MD, DE are included in the 13 current states + DC where illegals can get DLs:
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Are you allowed to ask for proof?
Many illegals are folks who have stayed past their welcome, so yes, illegals can have SSN's.

No, we are not to ask for proof.
If their status is illegal, how can they LEGALLY have valid SSN’s?

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