Are Christian Republicans Disloyal?

[Ivytalk]

There is a case to be made for carefully constructed, forward -looking loyalty oaths. Cole v. Richardson, 405 U.S. 676 (1972). A few Congresscritters should take note.

[kalm]

They are truly threatening and Scholastic News has swallowed the bait!

They're too ignorant to be a threat, but that wasn't the topic. However, your tourettes-like reaction to defend them is duly noted.

You know what, Baldy I actually think you may be on to some cock balls fuck thing.

[Ivytalk]

There is a case to be made for carefully constructed, forward -looking loyalty oaths. Cole v. Richardson, 405 U.S. 676 (1972). A few Congresscritters should take note.

https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/ar ... richardson

Shall we tattoo them as well?

Yes, as long as the tattoos aren’t covered by a headscarf.

[AZGrizFan]

They're too ignorant to be a threat, but that wasn't the topic. However, your tourettes-like reaction to defend them is duly noted.

You know what, Baldy I actually think you may be on to some cock balls fuck thing.

There it is AGAIN!

[kalm]

You know what, Baldy I actually think you may be on to some cock balls fuck thing.

There it is AGAIN!

There what is again?

[Baldy]

They're too ignorant to be a threat, but that wasn't the topic. However, your tourettes-like reaction to defend them is duly noted.

You know what, Baldy I actually think you may be on to some cock ball fuck thing.

FIFY

[kalm]

You know what, Baldy I actually think you may be on to some cock ball fuck thing.

FIFY

[AZGrizFan]

There it is AGAIN!

There what is again?

You don't see it?

[Winterborn]

Huh.

I wasn’t aware Christ was such a supporter of abortion.

Two things the Talivangicals salivate on that Jesus didn't say a word on:

Abortion and Homosexuality.

He did say plenty about feeding the poor, healing the sick, welcoming refugees, etc.

He did preach against divorce, but if the Talivangicals followed that, half their membership would be gone.

Jon,

I happen to agree with some (probably most) of your views on Talivangicals but while I am not much of a Theologian (ex-Catholic), there is some pretty specific verses in the Bible against Homosexuality. Leviticus 18:22 comes to mind and while you did mention Jesus (assuming you mean the New Testament), Jesus fully endorsed the Old Testament and the teachings therein (quoting multiple passages of it). New Testiment passage that comes to mind is Romans 1:26-27.

As for abortion it all depends on one believes it is murder or not. In Luke 18 he mentions murder (kill in some translations), so indirectly the Bible speaks out against it. There is other verses along the same line about the life of those who are not able to defend themselves.

I am not trying to stir up a theological discussion on whether the Bible is a collection of fairytails or true, just pointing out that if somebody makes a statement about a book, they probably should read the book before stating what is or is not in it.

I expect no less then to be called out if somebody on this board feels I am trying to pull the wool over their eyes on a topic.

[JohnStOnge]

Not trying to stick up for Trump but I have always wondered why Jews would support democrats. Historically speaking it makes no sense unless they didn't learn their lesson the first time they were put in concentration camps.

It's because they have high IQs. As far as I can tell the average US Jew has an IQ that is higher than that of about 84% of the US population. Something like that.

Maybe high IQ isn't the cause. But there is an association. As I've posted before all indications are that the majority of the "cognitive elite" vote Democrat. All you have to do is look at the fact that people with graduate degrees voted by 56% to 43% for Clinton in 2016 then by 65% to 34% for Democrats in the 2018 House elections.

Educational attainment isn't a perfect proxy for intelligence. But it's pretty obvious that the majority of the most intelligent people vote Democrat. That used to bug me as I spent my life up to 2016 voting Republican. But now not so much. The scales have fallen from my eyes as what's happened over the past three years has made it clear to me that the Republican Party has a serious problem with hateful, ignorant people in its base.

[BDKJMU]

Not trying to stick up for Trump but I have always wondered why Jews would support democrats. Historically speaking it makes no sense unless they didn't learn their lesson the first time they were put in concentration camps.

It's because they have high IQs. As far as I can tell the average US Jew has an IQ that is higher than that of about 84% of the US population. Something like that.

Maybe high IQ isn't the cause. But there is an association. As I've posted before all indications are that the majority of the "cognitive elite" vote Democrat. All you have to do is look at the fact that people with graduate degrees voted by 56% to 43% for Clinton in 2016 then by 65% to 34% for Democrats in the 2018 House elections.

Educational attainment isn't a perfect proxy for intelligence. But it's pretty obvious that the majority of the most intelligent people vote Democrat. That used to bug me as I spent my life up to 2016 voting Republican. But now not so much. The scales have fallen from my eyes as what's happened over the past three years has made it clear to me that the Republican Party has a serious problem with hateful, ignorant people in its base.

How abut a link JohnStMengele?

[CID1990]

Not trying to stick up for Trump but I have always wondered why Jews would support democrats. Historically speaking it makes no sense unless they didn't learn their lesson the first time they were put in concentration camps.

It's because they have high IQs. As far as I can tell the average US Jew has an IQ that is higher than that of about 84% of the US population. Something like that.

Maybe high IQ isn't the cause. But there is an association. As I've posted before all indications are that the majority of the "cognitive elite" vote Democrat. All you have to do is look at the fact that people with graduate degrees voted by 56% to 43% for Clinton in 2016 then by 65% to 34% for Democrats in the 2018 House elections.

Educational attainment isn't a perfect proxy for intelligence. But it's pretty obvious that the majority of the most intelligent people vote Democrat. That used to bug me as I spent my life up to 2016 voting Republican. But now not so much. The scales have fallen from my eyes as what's happened over the past three years has made it clear to me that the Republican Party has a serious problem with hateful, ignorant people in its base.

You mean high IQ in a crafty, devious way, right John?


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[CAA Flagship]

Not trying to stick up for Trump but I have always wondered why Jews would support democrats. Historically speaking it makes no sense unless they didn't learn their lesson the first time they were put in concentration camps.

It's because they have high IQs. As far as I can tell the average US Jew has an IQ that is higher than that of about 84% of the US population. Something like that.

Maybe high IQ isn't the cause. But there is an association. As I've posted before all indications are that the majority of the "cognitive elite" vote Democrat. All you have to do is look at the fact that people with graduate degrees voted by 56% to 43% for Clinton in 2016 then by 65% to 34% for Democrats in the 2018 House elections.

Educational attainment isn't a perfect proxy for intelligence. But it's pretty obvious that the majority of the most intelligent people vote Democrat. That used to bug me as I spent my life up to 2016 voting Republican. But now not so much. The scales have fallen from my eyes as what's happened over the past three years has made it clear to me that the Republican Party has a serious problem with hateful, ignorant people in its base.

The "educated" have spent more time with "educators". Let that sink in a bit.

[css75]

Maybe because Republicans are probably more Jesus oriented in their religious beliefs?

Jesus was a liberal progressive.

The GOP platform is basically the opposite of whatever Christ taught.

The real question is - how can any Christian ever vote GOP?

So wrong on so many accounts too numerous to list here.


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[Ivytalk]

Jesus was a liberal progressive.

The GOP platform is basically the opposite of whatever Christ taught.

The real question is - how can any Christian ever vote GOP?

So wrong on so many accounts too numerous to list here.


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Forgive him. He’s out of Midol.

[Ibanez]

yes


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[JohnStOnge]

It's because they have high IQs. As far as I can tell the average US Jew has an IQ that is higher than that of about 84% of the US population. Something like that.

Maybe high IQ isn't the cause. But there is an association. As I've posted before all indications are that the majority of the "cognitive elite" vote Democrat. All you have to do is look at the fact that people with graduate degrees voted by 56% to 43% for Clinton in 2016 then by 65% to 34% for Democrats in the 2018 House elections.

Educational attainment isn't a perfect proxy for intelligence. But it's pretty obvious that the majority of the most intelligent people vote Democrat. That used to bug me as I spent my life up to 2016 voting Republican. But now not so much. The scales have fallen from my eyes as what's happened over the past three years has made it clear to me that the Republican Party has a serious problem with hateful, ignorant people in its base.

How abut a link JohnStMengele?

https://web.mit.edu/fustflum/documents/ ... socsci.pdf

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 6903000795

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... in_Britain

https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/1957-levinson.pdf

https://slate.com/technology/2007/11/je ... alues.html

It's pretty universally acknowledged that Jews in the ethnic sense have a higher average IQ than the general population. The controversy is over the reason for that.

The 84% thing comes from the idea that the average IQ of Jews is about 1 standard deviation higher than that of the general population. I think you'll see that mentioned in some of those articles. I noticed that it looks like the articles place it at somewhere in the 1/2 to 1 standard deviation range. If it's 1/2 a standard deviation it'd be about 69 percent.

[CID1990]

How abut a link JohnStMengele?

https://web.mit.edu/fustflum/documents/ ... socsci.pdf

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 6903000795

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... in_Britain

https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/1957-levinson.pdf

https://slate.com/technology/2007/11/je ... alues.html

It's pretty universally acknowledged that Jews in the ethnic sense have a higher average IQ than the general population. The controversy is over the reason for that.

The 84% thing comes from the idea that the average IQ of Jews is about 1 standard deviation higher than that of the general population. I think you'll see that mentioned in some of those articles. I noticed that it looks like the articles place it at somewhere in the 1/2 to 1 standard deviation range. If it's 1/2 a standard deviation it'd be about 69 percent.

What is a Jew in the ethnic sense, John?


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[Baldy]

FIFY

[JohnStOnge]

https://web.mit.edu/fustflum/documents/ ... socsci.pdf

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 6903000795

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... in_Britain

https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/1957-levinson.pdf

https://slate.com/technology/2007/11/je ... alues.html

It's pretty universally acknowledged that Jews in the ethnic sense have a higher average IQ than the general population. The controversy is over the reason for that.

The 84% thing comes from the idea that the average IQ of Jews is about 1 standard deviation higher than that of the general population. I think you'll see that mentioned in some of those articles. I noticed that it looks like the articles place it at somewhere in the 1/2 to 1 standard deviation range. If it's 1/2 a standard deviation it'd be about 69 percent.

What is a Jew in the ethnic sense, John?


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I am talking about Ashkenazi Jews; which I view as an ethnic group. You can read some about that at https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-o ... you-009924.

Another article that relates to the subject matter is at https://www.latimes.com/science/science ... story.html.

I think that, when you see exit polls on US elections broken down by religion and you see "Jewish" the overwhelming majority of people in that group are Ashkenazi Jews. It's kind of a unique situation, I think, in which there is a very strong association between being a member of a certain religion and being genetically inter-related. It's not like when you look at the exit poll grouping "Protestant" and there is a lot more variation in ethnicity.

[CID1990]

What is a Jew in the ethnic sense, John?


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I am talking about Ashkenazi Jews; which I view as an ethnic group. You can read some about that at https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-o ... you-009924.

Another article that relates to the subject matter is at https://www.latimes.com/science/science ... story.html.

I think that, when you see exit polls on US elections broken down by religion and you see "Jewish" the overwhelming majority of people in that group are Ashkenazi Jews. It's kind of a unique situation, I think, in which there is a very strong association between being a member of a certain religion and being genetically inter-related. It's not like when you look at the exit poll grouping "Protestant" and there is a lot more variation in ethnicity.

Are these the same as your crafty, high IQ Jews, John?


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[CAA Flagship]

Are these the same as your crafty, high IQ Jews, John?

[Ivytalk]

Are these the same as your crafty, high IQ Jews, John?

Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard!

[JohnStOnge]

I am talking about Ashkenazi Jews; which I view as an ethnic group. You can read some about that at https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-o ... you-009924.

Another article that relates to the subject matter is at https://www.latimes.com/science/science ... story.html.

I think that, when you see exit polls on US elections broken down by religion and you see "Jewish" the overwhelming majority of people in that group are Ashkenazi Jews. It's kind of a unique situation, I think, in which there is a very strong association between being a member of a certain religion and being genetically inter-related. It's not like when you look at the exit poll grouping "Protestant" and there is a lot more variation in ethnicity.

Are these the same as your crafty, high IQ Jews, John?

Yes. Well, they are not "my" high IQ Jews. But it's an ethnic group with a high average IQ. It's a pretty widely recognized phenomenon. Of course there is resistance to thinking of "Jewish" as an ethnicity. And I think it's true that it is not entirely that. There are Jews who aren't part of the ethnic group. But I think that the overwhelming majority of "Jews" alive today in the United States are of Ashkenazi ancestry to one degree or another.

[CID1990]

Are these the same as your crafty, high IQ Jews, John?

Yes. Well, they are not "my" high IQ Jews. But it's an ethnic group with a high average IQ. It's a pretty widely recognized phenomenon. Of course there is resistance to thinking of "Jewish" as an ethnicity. And I think it's true that it is not entirely that. There are Jews who aren't part of the ethnic group. But I think that the overwhelming majority of "Jews" alive today in the United States are of Ashkenazi ancestry to one degree or another.

So how much Ashkenazi blood does a Jew have to have to be an ethnic Jew, John? Just one drop?