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BDKJMU wrote: How abut a link JohnStMengele?
https://web.mit.edu/fustflum/documents/ ... socsci.pdf

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 6903000795

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... in_Britain

https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/1957-levinson.pdf

https://slate.com/technology/2007/11/je ... alues.html

It's pretty universally acknowledged that Jews in the ethnic sense have a higher average IQ than the general population. The controversy is over the reason for that.

The 84% thing comes from the idea that the average IQ of Jews is about 1 standard deviation higher than that of the general population. I think you'll see that mentioned in some of those articles. I noticed that it looks like the articles place it at somewhere in the 1/2 to 1 standard deviation range. If it's 1/2 a standard deviation it'd be about 69 percent.
What is a Jew in the ethnic sense, John?


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CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
https://web.mit.edu/fustflum/documents/ ... socsci.pdf

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 6903000795

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... in_Britain

https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/1957-levinson.pdf

https://slate.com/technology/2007/11/je ... alues.html

It's pretty universally acknowledged that Jews in the ethnic sense have a higher average IQ than the general population. The controversy is over the reason for that.

The 84% thing comes from the idea that the average IQ of Jews is about 1 standard deviation higher than that of the general population. I think you'll see that mentioned in some of those articles. I noticed that it looks like the articles place it at somewhere in the 1/2 to 1 standard deviation range. If it's 1/2 a standard deviation it'd be about 69 percent.
What is a Jew in the ethnic sense, John?


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I am talking about Ashkenazi Jews; which I view as an ethnic group. You can read some about that at https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-o ... you-009924.

Another article that relates to the subject matter is at https://www.latimes.com/science/science ... story.html.

I think that, when you see exit polls on US elections broken down by religion and you see "Jewish" the overwhelming majority of people in that group are Ashkenazi Jews. It's kind of a unique situation, I think, in which there is a very strong association between being a member of a certain religion and being genetically inter-related. It's not like when you look at the exit poll grouping "Protestant" and there is a lot more variation in ethnicity.
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What is a Jew in the ethnic sense, John?


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I am talking about Ashkenazi Jews; which I view as an ethnic group. You can read some about that at https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-o ... you-009924.

Another article that relates to the subject matter is at https://www.latimes.com/science/science ... story.html.

I think that, when you see exit polls on US elections broken down by religion and you see "Jewish" the overwhelming majority of people in that group are Ashkenazi Jews. It's kind of a unique situation, I think, in which there is a very strong association between being a member of a certain religion and being genetically inter-related. It's not like when you look at the exit poll grouping "Protestant" and there is a lot more variation in ethnicity.
Are these the same as your crafty, high IQ Jews, John?


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Are these the same as your crafty, high IQ Jews, John?
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CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I am talking about Ashkenazi Jews; which I view as an ethnic group. You can read some about that at https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-o ... you-009924.

Another article that relates to the subject matter is at https://www.latimes.com/science/science ... story.html.

I think that, when you see exit polls on US elections broken down by religion and you see "Jewish" the overwhelming majority of people in that group are Ashkenazi Jews. It's kind of a unique situation, I think, in which there is a very strong association between being a member of a certain religion and being genetically inter-related. It's not like when you look at the exit poll grouping "Protestant" and there is a lot more variation in ethnicity.
Are these the same as your crafty, high IQ Jews, John?
Yes. Well, they are not "my" high IQ Jews. But it's an ethnic group with a high average IQ. It's a pretty widely recognized phenomenon. Of course there is resistance to thinking of "Jewish" as an ethnicity. And I think it's true that it is not entirely that. There are Jews who aren't part of the ethnic group. But I think that the overwhelming majority of "Jews" alive today in the United States are of Ashkenazi ancestry to one degree or another.
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Are these the same as your crafty, high IQ Jews, John?
Yes. Well, they are not "my" high IQ Jews. But it's an ethnic group with a high average IQ. It's a pretty widely recognized phenomenon. Of course there is resistance to thinking of "Jewish" as an ethnicity. And I think it's true that it is not entirely that. There are Jews who aren't part of the ethnic group. But I think that the overwhelming majority of "Jews" alive today in the United States are of Ashkenazi ancestry to one degree or another.
So how much Ashkenazi blood does a Jew have to have to be an ethnic Jew, John? Just one drop?
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CID1990 wrote:
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Yes. Well, they are not "my" high IQ Jews. But it's an ethnic group with a high average IQ. It's a pretty widely recognized phenomenon. Of course there is resistance to thinking of "Jewish" as an ethnicity. And I think it's true that it is not entirely that. There are Jews who aren't part of the ethnic group. But I think that the overwhelming majority of "Jews" alive today in the United States are of Ashkenazi ancestry to one degree or another.
So how much Ashkenazi blood does a Jew have to have to be an ethnic Jew, John? Just one drop?
I don't know. All I can tell you is that I am confident that if you were to administer IQ tests to everyone who identifies as a "Jew" in the United States you would end up with a distribution of IQ scores that has a mean substantially higher than that of the general population. And I know that, culturally, the Ashkenazi Jews have historically discouraged breeding outside of their group.

It's similar to trying to distinguish "Black" and "White." Yes, the lines are blurred. But whenever people are categorized in any reasonable way we see differences between "Black" and "White." or "Asian" and "White." There are no perfect separations.

But the population differences exist.
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JohnStOnge wrote: And I know that, culturally, the Ashkenazi Jews have historically discouraged breeding outside of their group.
So have Cajuns. Fat lot of good it did them. :coffee:
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CID1990 wrote:
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Yes. Well, they are not "my" high IQ Jews. But it's an ethnic group with a high average IQ. It's a pretty widely recognized phenomenon. Of course there is resistance to thinking of "Jewish" as an ethnicity. And I think it's true that it is not entirely that. There are Jews who aren't part of the ethnic group. But I think that the overwhelming majority of "Jews" alive today in the United States are of Ashkenazi ancestry to one degree or another.
So how much Ashkenazi blood does a Jew have to have to be an ethnic Jew, John? Just one drop?
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JohnStOnge wrote: And I know that, culturally, the Ashkenazi Jews have historically discouraged breeding outside of their group.
So have Cajuns. Fat lot of good it did them. :coffee:
You are correct in that Cajuns have interbred. In fact researchers have focused on Acadiana as an area to study genetic diseases. Ashkenazi Jews have suffered some of the same problems in that regard. See https://www.myjewishlearning.com/articl ... -diseases/.

No, Cajuns do not also benefit from the higher than average IQ thing. But that's OK. Cajuns are very happy people.
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So have Cajuns. Fat lot of good it did them. :coffee:
You are correct in that Cajuns have interbred. In fact researchers have focused on Acadiana as an area to study genetic diseases. Ashkenazi Jews have suffered some of the same problems in that regard. See https://www.myjewishlearning.com/articl ... -diseases/.

No, Cajuns do not also benefit from the higher than average IQ thing. But that's OK. Cajuns are very happy people.
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The threads where JSO can pontificate on inbreeding and miscegenation always deliver. It's like old school JSO posts.
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Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
You are correct in that Cajuns have interbred. In fact researchers have focused on Acadiana as an area to study genetic diseases. Ashkenazi Jews have suffered some of the same problems in that regard. See https://www.myjewishlearning.com/articl ... -diseases/.

No, Cajuns do not also benefit from the higher than average IQ thing. But that's OK. Cajuns are very happy people.
Give in to your inner Cajun, John. Release that happy person inside you! McNeese tailgates are among the best. Jambalaya rocks! :thumb:
There is going to be tailgating as good as it gets in FCS this Saturday when Southern travels to McNeese. I don't know if I'm going to try to experience it though. I'm getting old and it IS going to be August in South Louisiana with a "Sunny" forecast. I will likely be in Lake Charles but I'll watch the game on TV. I'll go to one of my brothers' house to do it. But I might drive over to the stadium area a couple of hours before the game just to take a peek because the pre game atmosphere should be epic.

BTW me not going to the game in person won't cost the school. It's going to be standing room only. In fact I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like on television. It's going to be be a good look for FCS.
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Ivytalk wrote: Give in to your inner Cajun, John. Release that happy person inside you! McNeese tailgates are among the best. Jambalaya rocks! :thumb:
There is going to be tailgating as good as it gets in FCS this Saturday when Southern travels to McNeese. I don't know if I'm going to try to experience it though. I'm getting old and it IS going to be August in South Louisiana with a "Sunny" forecast. I will likely be in Lake Charles but I'll watch the game on TV. I'll go to one of my brothers' house to do it. But I might drive over to the stadium area a couple of hours before the game just to take a peek because the pre game atmosphere should be epic.

BTW me not going to the game in person won't cost the school. It's going to be standing room only. In fact I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like on television. It's going to be be a good look for FCS.
Sounds like good times! Laissez les bons temps rouler! :thumb:
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Give in to your inner Cajun, John. Release that happy person inside you! McNeese tailgates are among the best. Jambalaya rocks! :thumb:
There is going to be tailgating as good as it gets in FCS this Saturday when Southern travels to McNeese. I don't know if I'm going to try to experience it though. I'm getting old and it IS going to be August in South Louisiana with a "Sunny" forecast. I will likely be in Lake Charles but I'll watch the game on TV. I'll go to one of my brothers' house to do it. But I might drive over to the stadium area a couple of hours before the game just to take a peek because the pre game atmosphere should be epic.

BTW me not going to the game in person won't cost the school. It's going to be standing room only. In fact I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like on television. It's going to be be a good look for FCS.
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