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Tulsi Gabbard just moved up several notches in my book.
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SeattleGriz wrote:Hillary says that Gabbard is a Russian asset.

Man, she's like grampa Simpson when he was claiming Death was coming to get him.
Hey, she said Stein was a Russian asset in 2016 as well. Darn it, I purposely tried not to vote for a Russian asset - they're just everywhere apparently. :ohno:
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AZGrizFan wrote:Tulsi Gabbard just moved up several notches in my little black book.
Accuracy.
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Ivytalk wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Tulsi Gabbard just moved up several notches in my little black book.
Accuracy.
And here I was thinking she just moved AZ's zipper down several notches.

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Gabbard is a far-right conservative and has a long record to back it up. If someone proved she had ties to Putin, I wouldn't be surprised (seems like a lot of cons have been in bed with the Russians).

Stein 2.0 can go f*ck herself.
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kalm wrote:CID, is she qualified for a cabinet position?

She also might make an interesting VP candidate. Conks don’t seem to mind her as much.
She make my libertarian bits move on foreign policy

She’s attractive when she’s bashing establishment donks but she’s still a force of gummint statist

But yeah she’d do well as maybe a VP (since they are toothless and can’t fvk much up)

I can’t think of a department she’d be qualified to run... but she could make a decent ambassador or spec envoy




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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:CID, is she qualified for a cabinet position?

She also might make an interesting VP candidate. Conks don’t seem to mind her as much.
She make my libertarian bits move on foreign policy

She’s attractive when she’s bashing establishment donks but she’s still a force of gummint statist

But yeah she’d do well as maybe a VP (since they are toothless and can’t fvk much up)

I can’t think of a department she’d be qualified to run... but she could make a decent ambassador or spec envoy


That one is easy, UN Ambassador.

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∞∞∞ wrote:Gabbard is a far-right conservative and has a long record to back it up. If someone proved she had ties to Putin, I wouldn't be surprised (seems like a lot of cons have been in bed with the Russians).

Stein 2.0 can go f*ck herself.
Really? :suspicious:

Not surprised that you believe this, based on your previous posting. Be pretty hard for anybody to be left of yourself.
It starting to make sense now why you give the middle of the road folks grief for being right wingers. :coffee:
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Trip, I figured you would love Putin. Contrary to your moaning, you really don’t like Democracy since it means people with opposing views have a say and you can’t implement what you think is proper. You’ve proven that.


Honestly, it’s a wonder why far left people like you don’t like an authoritative person like Putin.


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∞∞∞ wrote:Gabbard is a far-right conservative and has a long record to back it up. If someone proved she had ties to Putin, I wouldn't be surprised (seems like a lot of cons have been in bed with the Russians).

Stein 2.0 can go f*ck herself.
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Ibanez wrote:Trip, I figured you would love Putin. Contrary to your moaning, you really don’t like Democracy since it means people with opposing views have a say and you can’t implement what you think is proper. You’ve proven that.


Honestly, it’s a wonder why far left people like you don’t like an authoritative person like Putin.


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Gabbard's conservatism has been out there a while, at least within liberal circles. People started noticing an overlap of her being promoted by the same bots which support Russian interests, she was being considered for cabinet positions by Trump, and the alt-right media, Fox, and RT constantly fawn over her.

It only became impossible to ignore now 'cause HRC drew national attention to it.

And her record is terrifying:

-Barr summary (not even Mueller Report) comes out and says it's time to move on.
-Resigns from the DNC.
-Defends WikiLeaks and Assange.
-Worked for anti-gay group which promotes conversion therapy.
-Wants to end sanctions against Bashar al-Assad, and was the only "Democrat" who voted against legislation condemning him for gassing people. Met him in 2017.
-Used Project Veritas as proof on national TV a few times now.
-Declines to join Democrats in condemning Bannon.
-Voted to block Syrian refugees from entering US.
-Consistently and almost without fail, misses votes important to the Democratic party.
-Comes from a conservative activist family and has close ties with Sheldon Adelson, including introducing legislation that he's pushed for.
-Rated poorly by almost every progressive and liberal website for her track record in Congress.

Whatever though, Gabbard is polling at 1%. No one is falling for her conservative garbage.

I'm sure she'll end up running as a third party candidate.
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∞∞∞ wrote:Gabbard's conservatism has been out there a while, at least within liberal circles. People started noticing an overlap of her being promoted by the same bots which support Russian interests, she was being considered for cabinet positions by Trump, and the alt-right media, Fox, and RT constantly fawn over her.

It only became impossible to ignore now 'cause HRC drew national attention to it.

And her record is terrifying:

-Barr summary (not even Mueller Report) comes out and says it's time to move on.
-Resigns from the DNC.
-Defends WikiLeaks and Assange.
-Worked for anti-gay group which promotes conversion therapy.
-Wants to end sanctions against Bashar al-Assad, and was the only "Democrat" who voted against legislation condemning him for gassing people. Met him in 2017.
-Used Project Veritas as proof on national TV a few times now.
-Declines to join Democrats in condemning Bannon.
-Voted to block Syrian refugees from entering US.
-Consistently and almost without fail, misses votes important to the Democratic party.
-Comes from a conservative activist family and has close ties with Sheldon Adelson, including introducing legislation that he's pushed for.
-Rated poorly by almost every progressive and liberal website for her track record in Congress.

Whatever though, Gabbard is polling at 1%. No one is falling for her conservative garbage.

I'm sure she'll end up running as a third party candidate.
She resigned from the DNC in solidarity and support of Bernie.

She’s far from the only notable lefty who defends Wikileaks and Snowden.

She’s renounced some of her earlier positions and at least had the courage to talk to Assad and find out for herself.

Rather than monolithic support of everything “liberal” she is instead left on most issues with a conservative tilt on a few (sounds like any reasonable person and probably what this country needs more of at this point). Hardly far right. I’d say she is to the left of Hillary who you probably voted for.
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But Trip is right in his overall thoughts regarding the ideological spectrum. The Dems have been a center right party and both parties are clearly to the right of polling on most issues. Political outcomes follow cash rather than voter sentiment. The wealthy and large corporations are the constituency.

EG: you’d find a hell of a lot more support on environmental protection if there was money to be made and spent on campaigns there.

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IMO, Tulsi is trying to appeal to both the moderate and progressive wing of the party, and has just managed to tick both of them off. She's just not very politically astute or sharp.
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Winterborn wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Gabbard is a far-right conservative and has a long record to back it up. If someone proved she had ties to Putin, I wouldn't be surprised (seems like a lot of cons have been in bed with the Russians).

Stein 2.0 can go f*ck herself.
Really? :suspicious:

Not surprised that you believe this, based on your previous posting. Be pretty hard for anybody to be left of yourself.
It starting to make sense now why you give the middle of the road folks grief for being right wingers. :coffee:
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Lol. The old Attorney General from California, Kamala Harris, can't name a single crime Guiliani has committed when asked, right after she claims he is guilty of multiple crimes.

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kalm wrote:But Trip is right in his overall thoughts regarding the ideological spectrum. The Dems have been a center right party and both parties are clearly to the right of polling on most issues. Political outcomes follow cash rather than voter sentiment. The wealthy and large corporations are the constituency.

EG: you’d find a hell of a lot more support on environmental protection if there was money to be made and spent on campaigns there.

:nod:
Emphasis on "has been." The current pack of candidates is not center right.

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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:But Trip is right in his overall thoughts regarding the ideological spectrum. The Dems have been a center right party and both parties are clearly to the right of polling on most issues. Political outcomes follow cash rather than voter sentiment. The wealthy and large corporations are the constituency.

EG: you’d find a hell of a lot more support on environmental protection if there was money to be made and spent on campaigns there.

:nod:
Emphasis on "has been." The current pack of candidates is not center right.

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kalm wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
Emphasis on "has been." The current pack of candidates is not center right.

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Harris, Booker, Butti, Biden, Yang are.
Weed legal in the Palouse?

You’re smoking it

Biden is the only one who comes close

I could possibly vote for Yang but I’m under no illusions that he is solidly left of center


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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Harris, Booker, Butti, Biden, Yang are.
Weed legal in the Palouse?

You’re smoking it

Biden is the only one who comes close

I could possibly vote for Yang but I’m under no illusions that he is solidly left of center


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