Yale Snowflakes For The Win

[Chizzang]

Every aging generation:
Expresses dissatisfaction with the youth whilst simultaneously glorifying itself in a sad epilogue
I always hoped my generation would be the first to break the cycle

but here we are... not dying off fast enough
and glorifying ourselves all the while

Jesus, Cleets. I expect to hear that kind of neg-head talk out of Tripz and his ilk, not you. Maybe we should pursue the Governor Dick Lamm (remember him?) philosophy and be done with it.

Ivy,
It is men our age that raised the price of college tuition 700% above the previous gradual incline
for no reason at all other than "more money" when they were already flourishing

its men our age that think school lunch programs are less important than coal and oil incentives

and the list of sadness goes on and on
as we glorify our magnificent generation and belittle the next one inheriting our insanity

[Ivytalk]

Jesus, Cleets. I expect to hear that kind of neg-head talk out of Tripz and his ilk, not you. Maybe we should pursue the Governor Dick Lamm (remember him?) philosophy and be done with it.

Ivy,
It is men our age that raised the price of college tuition 700% above the previous gradual incline
for no reason at all other than "more money" when they were already flourishing

its men our age that think school lunch programs are less important than coal and oil incentives

and the list of sadness goes on and on
as we glorify our magnificent generation and belittle the next one inheriting our insanity

I can cherry-pick positive stuff that “men our age” (but you’re not even 60 yet, right?) have done, but what’s rhe point?

You seem to have sunk into a Spenglerian “OK, Boomer” slough of despond

[kalm]

Ivy,
It is men our age that raised the price of college tuition 700% above the previous gradual incline
for no reason at all other than "more money" when they were already flourishing

its men our age that think school lunch programs are less important than coal and oil incentives

and the list of sadness goes on and on
as we glorify our magnificent generation and belittle the next one inheriting our insanity

I can cherry-pick positive stuff that “men our age” (but you’re not even 60 yet, right?) have done, but what’s rhe point?

You seem to have sunk into a Spenglerian “OK, Boomer” slough of despond

I know a few guys from your generation willing to fully recognize its warts. Coincidentally they became more liberal late in life and after careers of immense success. I’m still holding out hope for you.

[Ivytalk]

I can cherry-pick positive stuff that “men our age” (but you’re not even 60 yet, right?) have done, but what’s rhe point?

You seem to have sunk into a Spenglerian “OK, Boomer” slough of despond

I know a few guys from your generation willing to fully recognize its warts. Coincidentally they became more liberal late in life and after careers of immense success. I’m still holding out hope for you.

I’ve never said that Boomers have all the answers. Indeed, they’ve kicked the can down the road on important issues, which strikes me as cowardly. I haven’t become more liberal late in life, but I do appreciate liberty more than I used to. Especially the social kind.

[CID1990]

Jesus, Cleets. I expect to hear that kind of neg-head talk out of Tripz and his ilk, not you. Maybe we should pursue the Governor Dick Lamm (remember him?) philosophy and be done with it.

Ivy,
It is men our age that raised the price of college tuition 700% above the previous gradual incline
for no reason at all other than "more money" when they were already flourishing

its men our age that think school lunch programs are less important than coal and oil incentives

and the list of sadness goes on and on
as we glorify our magnificent generation and belittle the next one inheriting our insanity

Oh

I thought you included yourself in Gen X but now I see you consider yourself a Boomer

[JoltinJoe]

I’m intrigued, Cleets. What do you mean by “not soon enough”? Might as well pursue that thought right here.

Every aging generation:
Expresses dissatisfaction with the youth whilst simultaneously glorifying itself in a sad epilogue
I always hoped my generation would be the first to break the cycle

but here we are... not dying off fast enough
and glorifying ourselves all the while

old age sticks
up Keep
Off
signs)&

youth yanks them
down(old
age
cries No

Tres)&(pas)
youth laughs
(sing
old age

scolds Forbid
den Stop
Must
n’t Don’t

&)youth goes
right on
gr
owing old

by E.E. Cummings (1894-1962)

[AZGrizFan]

I can cherry-pick positive stuff that “men our age” (but you’re not even 60 yet, right?) have done, but what’s rhe point?

You seem to have sunk into a Spenglerian “OK, Boomer” slough of despond

I know a few guys from your generation willing to fully recognize its warts. Coincidentally they became more liberal late in life and after careers of immense success. I’m still holding out hope for you.

No one is saying there aren’t warts. But this despondent “men of our generation did X” is just cleets being Eyore.

[UNI88]

I know a few guys from your generation willing to fully recognize its warts. Coincidentally they became more liberal late in life and after careers of immense success. I’m still holding out hope for you.

No one is saying there aren’t warts. But this despondent “men of our generation did X” is just cleets imitating 89.

FYP

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[Chizzang]

a) I got mine...
why should I give a flying f_ck what happens from here on out

b) Pull yourself up
How do you think my generation did it

These ^ are the only respectable opinion positions among the 55 to 75 age group
any other perspective is dismissed as some kind of behavioral disorder

[houndawg]

a) I got mine...
why should I give a flying f_ck what happens from here on out

b) Pull yourself up
How do you think my generation did it

These ^ are the only respectable opinion positions among the 55 to 75 age group
any other perspective is dismissed as some kind of behavioral disorder

which is really two generations divided by the Elvis/Beatles line

[kalm]

a) I got mine...
why should I give a flying f_ck what happens from here on out

b) Pull yourself up
How do you think my generation did it

These ^ are the only respectable opinion positions among the 55 to 75 age group
any other perspective is dismissed as some kind of behavioral disorder

which is really two generations divided by the Elvis/Beatles line

^ he’s got a point.

[UNI88]

which is really two generations divided by the Elvis/Beatles line

^ he’s got a point.

Is it two generations?

Although the Beatles insidious influence on music and society is pretty obvious.

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[kalm]

^ he’s got a point.

Is it two generations?

Although the Beatles insidious influence on music and society is pretty obvious.

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Dad?

[houndawg]

^ he’s got a point.

Is it two generations?

Although the Beatles insidious influence on music and society is pretty obvious.

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Couldn't be more obvious - the second half of the Boomers grew up in a whole different world.

[AZGrizFan]

Is it two generations?

Although the Beatles insidious influence on music and society is pretty obvious.

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Couldn't be more obvious - the second half of the Boomers grew up in a whole different world.

Yes. I’m not sure why the “boomer” generation extends as far as it does. I have literally ZERO in common with someone born in 1945-55. I mean, I have 5 sisters born in that timeframe and while technically we’re the same “generation”, we’re like oil and water.

[Ivytalk]

Couldn't be more obvious - the second half of the Boomers grew up in a whole different world.

Yes. I’m not sure why the “boomer” generation extends as far as it does. I have literally ZERO in common with someone born in 1945-55. I mean, I have 5 sisters born in that timeframe and while technically we’re the same “generation”, we’re like oil and water.

Boomer generation is officially 1946-64. So oldest Boomers are about 73 now. Youngest 55.

[CAA Flagship]

Couldn't be more obvious - the second half of the Boomers grew up in a whole different world.

Yes. I’m not sure why the “boomer” generation extends as far as it does. I have literally ZERO in common with someone born in 1945-55. I mean, I have 5 sisters born in that timeframe and while technically we’re the same “generation”, we’re like oil and water.

It's the bulk of the offspring of those who fought in the big one. Essentially, children raised by people that were old enough to have experienced the sacrifices made during the war. My dad, who joined the Navy in the summer of 1941 (How's that for timing? ) was 37 when I was born in 1961.

[AZGrizFan]

Yes. I’m not sure why the “boomer” generation extends as far as it does. I have literally ZERO in common with someone born in 1945-55. I mean, I have 5 sisters born in that timeframe and while technically we’re the same “generation”, we’re like oil and water.

It's the bulk of the offspring of those who fought in the big one. Essentially, children raised by people that were old enough to have experienced the sacrifices made during the war. My dad, who joined the Navy in the summer of 1941 (How's that for timing? ) was 37 when I was born in 1961.

Yes. My dad was 10 in 1941. He was 20 in 1951 when Korea started but he got a deferment because he already had a kid.

[kalm]

It's the bulk of the offspring of those who fought in the big one. Essentially, children raised by people that were old enough to have experienced the sacrifices made during the war. My dad, who joined the Navy in the summer of 1941 (How's that for timing? ) was 37 when I was born in 1961.

Yes. My dad was 10 in 1941. He was 20 in 1951 when Korea started but he got a deferment because he already had a kid.

I’ve mentioned it before but you guys need to read the Fourth Turning...

Neil Howe and William Strauss admit that their model of the four generational archetypes is not the first time that the phenomenon has been observed in human history, however, they argue that American society has distinctly followed this pattern over the past 500 years. History moves in cycles, each one lasting the length of a long human life. The four archetypes are Hero, Artist, Prophet, and Nomad. When each archetype comes of age, there is a turning, or shift in societal mood. The four turnings are High, Awakening, Unraveling, and Crisis. During the High, there is confident growth as a new order takes shape. During the Awakening, it is a time of spiritual exploration and rebellion against the now-established order. Then comes the Unraveling, and increasingly troubled era as individualism triumphs over crumbling institutions. Last comes a Crisis - the Fourth Turning - when society passes through a great and perilous gate in history. As Nasim Taleb, author of The Black Swan, would be quick to point out, there is no guarantee that any society would pass through such a gate in history, just as the turkey has no guarantee of continuing to live past Thanksgiving.


I have been fascinated by their model ever since discovering it in 2009 while researching a paper on demographics. Since then, I've noticed that public figures from across the political spectrum have also become fascinated by the book, notably Bill Clinton, Tony Robbins, and Steve Bannon.

The Four Archetypes take a while to sink in - each archetype has a different experience and relationship to the other archetypal generations as they go through life stages

https://www.google.com/amp/s/trig.com/r ... format=amp

[houndawg]

Couldn't be more obvious - the second half of the Boomers grew up in a whole different world.

Yes. I’m not sure why the “boomer” generation extends as far as it does. I have literally ZERO in common with someone born in 1945-55. I mean, I have 5 sisters born in that timeframe and while technically we’re the same “generation”, we’re like oil and water.

Well that explains a lot. What kind of dresses did they make you wear?

I was born in '54 and the split occurred shortly before that, right around 1950. Before that it was Happy Days and letter sweaters and TV wouldn't show Elvis below the waist when he was dancing. I remember Elvis but never got what the excitement was about. I was 10 when the Beatles first appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show and I was hooked from the first note especially with the reaction of the girls in the audience and my Dad in front of the TV. I just knew I had to be part of something that could crank up the old man like that.

[houndawg]

I can cherry-pick positive stuff that “men our age” (but you’re not even 60 yet, right?) have done, but what’s rhe point?

You seem to have sunk into a Spenglerian “OK, Boomer” slough of despond

I know a few guys from your generation willing to fully recognize its warts. Coincidentally they became more liberal late in life and after careers of immense success. I’m still holding out hope for you.

Is it even possible to attend Harvard, be classmates with the most connected people in the world, and not have an immensely successful career?

[kalm]

a) I got mine...
why should I give a flying f_ck what happens from here on out

b) Pull yourself up
How do you think my generation did it

These ^ are the only respectable opinion positions among the 55 to 75 age group
any other perspective is dismissed as some kind of behavioral disorder

Reagan's legacy.

[CID1990]

He’s right about Yale students being regular people...

But I’ll be curious after he spends a couple years there... and meets some of the people who aren’t interested in his open mind

and also the people who disagree with his own personal definition of what he thinks a “safe space” is ... as defined by those “snowflakes@ he has apparently failed to encounter just yet


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[CID1990]

He’s right about Yale students being regular people...

But I’ll be curious after he spends a couple years there... and meets some of the people who aren’t interested in his open mind

and also the people who disagree with his own personal definition of what he thinks a “safe space” is ... as defined by those “snowflakes@ he has apparently failed to encounter just yet


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[Chizzang]

He’s right about Yale students being regular people...

But I’ll be curious after he spends a couple years there... and meets some of the people who aren’t interested in his open mind

and also the people who disagree with his own personal definition of what he thinks a “safe space” is ... as defined by those “snowflakes@ he has apparently failed to encounter just yet

So you're saying he's actually the Snowflake in this scenario