He was either much closer or lucky. 50 feet with a pistol you're going for center-of-mass.andy7171 wrote:6 seconds, draws gun, aims, moving target at least 50 feet away, HOLY SHIT, HEAD SHOT!
Nice work!
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Have you seen the video...estimates from it are 45 - 50 feet...it’s measurable.houndawg wrote:He was either much closer or lucky. 50 feet with a pistol you're going for center-of-mass.andy7171 wrote:6 seconds, draws gun, aims, moving target at least 50 feet away, HOLY SHIT, HEAD SHOT!
Nice work!
The shooter said he would normally go for CM but since the bad guy was about to start shooting at the mass of the congregation, he went for the head shot...and made it...
Call it luck...call it skill...he made it.
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It's a terrific shot. Roughly two seconds from draw to fire, under duress. Looks to be 40 feet away to me (about 13 strides to the perp after tango down).Col Hogan wrote:Have you seen the video...estimates from it are 45 - 50 feet...it’s measurable.houndawg wrote:
He was either much closer or lucky. 50 feet with a pistol you're going for center-of-mass.
The shooter said he would normally go for CM but since the bad guy was about to start shooting at the mass of the congregation, he went for the head shot...and made it...
Call it luck...call it skill...he made it.
Here it all is in real time, uncensored: https://www.bitchute.com/video/EIBFrmzco2yG/
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It was a great shot and the guy obviously took his practice seriously.... but to me the shot itself was less remarkable than the guy’s calm. He may have done some duress practice, or maybe he’s just stone cold93henfan wrote:It's a terrific shot. Roughly two seconds from draw to fire, under duress. Looks to be 40 feet away to me (about 13 strides to the perp after tango down).Col Hogan wrote:
Have you seen the video...estimates from it are 45 - 50 feet...it’s measurable.
The shooter said he would normally go for CM but since the bad guy was about to start shooting at the mass of the congregation, he went for the head shot...and made it...
Call it luck...call it skill...he made it.
Here it all is in real time, uncensored: https://www.bitchute.com/video/EIBFrmzco2yG/
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No doubt. The first man shot (second standing to left of perp) appeared to be drawing, and that was a more common example of what most non-ubertrained people would react like with that much adrenaline and that little muscle memory in said scenario.CID1990 wrote:It was a great shot and the guy obviously took his practice seriously.... but to me the shot itself was less remarkable than the guy’s calm. He may have done some duress practice, or maybe he’s just stone cold93henfan wrote:
It's a terrific shot. Roughly two seconds from draw to fire, under duress. Looks to be 40 feet away to me (about 13 strides to the perp after tango down).
Here it all is in real time, uncensored: https://www.bitchute.com/video/EIBFrmzco2yG/
The successful shooter was a certified firearms instructor and former deputy sheriff. This was a muscle memory scenario for him. Luckily for the next four or five people who would have been shot.
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Maine, fun facts:mainejeff2 wrote:White Settlement, Texas fun facts:
4.1% of population is African American.
Texas Civil War Museum is located here (duh!).
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Importing diversity.BDKJMU wrote:Maine, fun facts:mainejeff2 wrote:White Settlement, Texas fun facts:
4.1% of population is African American.
Texas Civil War Museum is located here (duh!).
1.34% of the population is black. Over half (10k of 18k) were imported from Somalia, so Maine would have some black people.
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Nothing but respect for the shot - still I'd think the most important thing at that moment is to put a bullet in him anywhere at least to slow him down, but that's all hindsight. Like you said, he made it and some people are alive because of that.Col Hogan wrote:Have you seen the video...estimates from it are 45 - 50 feet...it’s measurable.houndawg wrote:
He was either much closer or lucky. 50 feet with a pistol you're going for center-of-mass.
The shooter said he would normally go for CM but since the bad guy was about to start shooting at the mass of the congregation, he went for the head shot...and made it...
Call it luck...call it skill...he made it.
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The town was named by the local Indians is how I heard itmainejeff2 wrote:The Catholic Church imported them.....but they have been mostly embraced in a state that desperately needs younger people and more diversity.BDKJMU wrote: Maine, fun facts:
1.34% of the population is black. Over half (10k of 18k) were imported from Somalia, so Maine would have some black people.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/states ... opulation/![]()
The amazing statistic from your link is that 31% of Mainers or about 400K have no religious affiliation.![]()
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But back to White Settlement, Texas.....I found it amazing that about 650 black folk would be OK with living in a town called White Settlement.
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Odds are when a shooter starts getting shot back at it changes his perspective dramatically. Even if he had not hit the guy, it would have changed his priorities...plus, there were six other guys who pulled on him.houndawg wrote:Nothing but respect for the shot - still I'd think the most important thing at that moment is to put a bullet in him anywhere at least to slow him down, but that's all hindsight. Like you said, he made it and some people are alive because of that.Col Hogan wrote:
Have you seen the video...estimates from it are 45 - 50 feet...it’s measurable.
The shooter said he would normally go for CM but since the bad guy was about to start shooting at the mass of the congregation, he went for the head shot...and made it...
Call it luck...call it skill...he made it.
Regardless, it was an amazing shot.
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That really is cruel. Taking Africans from one of the hottest climates on earth, and putting them in one of the coldest states, that at the time was less than 1% black, and over 95% white, makes zero sense. Would be like relocating Eskimos to southern AZ. Shows you howmainejeff2 wrote:The Catholic Church imported them.....but they have been mostly embraced in a state that desperately needs younger people and more diversity.BDKJMU wrote: Maine, fun facts:
1.34% of the population is black. Over half (10k of 18k) were imported from Somalia, so Maine would have some black people.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/states ... opulation/![]()
The amazing statistic from your link is that 31% of Mainers or about 400K have no religious affiliation.![]()
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But back to White Settlement, Texas.....I found it amazing that about 650 black folk would be OK with living in a town called White Settlement.
I found it amazing that any black folk would be OK with living in Maine. Homey don’t like the cold.
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I think it was because that's where the white people settledmainejeff2 wrote:Maybe to honor the people that wiped them out?houndawg wrote:
The town was named by the local Indians is how I heard it
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Pretty much.houndawg wrote:I think it was because that's where the white people settledmainejeff2 wrote:
Maybe to honor the people that wiped them out?
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When I was stationed in Fairbanks it was good entertainment to watch the guys who hadn't wintered there yet run out to their cars at -20, put heir keys in their mouth so they could remove their arctic mittens, and grab the door handle of their car.BDKJMU wrote:That really is cruel. Taking Africans from one of the hottest climates on earth, and putting them in one of the coldest states, that at the time was less than 1% black, and over 95% white, makes zero sense. Would be like relocating Eskimos to southern AZ. Shows you howmainejeff2 wrote:
The Catholic Church imported them.....but they have been mostly embraced in a state that desperately needs younger people and more diversity.![]()
The amazing statistic from your link is that 31% of Mainers or about 400K have no religious affiliation.![]()
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But back to White Settlement, Texas.....I found it amazing that about 650 black folk would be OK with living in a town called White Settlement.the Catholic Church was. Would have made more sense to put them in the desert southwest, or deep south, where there’s more black people and less climate shock.
I found it amazing that any black folk would be OK with living in Maine. Homey don’t like the cold.
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Why do you hate white people?mainejeff2 wrote:I think that the Somalis are fine with putting up with some cold after escaping persecution, death, etc in their "home" country. Funny that sounds like another immigrant story from about 400 years ago.
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Pretty much. I LAWLed at “that walking corpse Bloomberg.”93henfan wrote:This brother nails it:
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I think that is a little deceptive because what happened in that Church scenario involved an organized Church security team with training. The guy who made the kill shot was particularly well trained. It wasn't a situation where somebody in the congregation just happened to have his gun on him and saved everybody.93henfan wrote:This brother nails it:
I don't know but I doubt that Bloomberg would say that churches should not be allowed to have trained security guards and that's what that guy who did the kill shot was.
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I don't doubt that Bloomberg would say that. He's a gun-grabbing idiot.JohnStOnge wrote: I don't know but I doubt that Bloomberg would say that churches should not be allowed to have trained security guards and that's what that guy who did the kill shot was.
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So, like, say if an “organized school security team with training” existed, that was particularly well trained, maybe, just maybe we could stop these motherfuckers in their tracks instead of making it a gun-free shooting gallery.JohnStOnge wrote:I think that is a little deceptive because what happened in that Church scenario involved an organized Church security team with training. The guy who made the kill shot was particularly well trained. It wasn't a situation where somebody in the congregation just happened to have his gun on him and saved everybody.93henfan wrote:This brother nails it:
I don't know but I doubt that Bloomberg would say that churches should not be allowed to have trained security guards and that's what that guy who did the kill shot was.
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