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Supreme Court Poised to Overturn 38 State Constitutional Amendments on Church-State SeparatioN
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Religious conservatives asked the Supreme Court Wednesday to overturn 38 state constitutional amendments and require taxpayers to fund religious schools.

You read that right. The case, Espinoza v. Montana Dept. of Revenue isn’t about whether a state may fund religious schools through a school choice, voucher, or similar program. It’s about whether it must.

And the conservatives might just win.

At issue in the case, probably the most significant church-state case on the 2019-20 docket, is Montana’s “no-aid” amendment to its state constitution, which was revised and passed in 1972. Like similar amendments in 37 other states, it prohibits “direct or indirect funding” for any “sectarian purpose.”

In 2015, the state legislature passed a law that gave a tax credit of up to $150 for donations to a school scholarship program. But in 2018, the Montana Supreme Court struck down the program, saying it violated the 1972 constitutional provision.[JM1]

That’s when a group of religious organizations upped the ante. They went to the Supreme Court, seeking not just to reinstate the program but to toss out the “no-aid” amendment entirely – and, as a consequence, invalidate 37 similar amendments across the country.
That would open the floodgates to the funding of religious schools, especially since the plaintiffs argue that not funding them—previously the constitutional norm—is actually a form of discrimination.

As in many of these cases, how Espinoza looks depends on how you frame it.

For conservatives, this is discrimination. If I want to send my child to a secular private school, I can receive funding (or a voucher, or a scholarship, or whatever). But if I want to send her to a religious one, I can’t.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Your latest logical fallacy depends on American troops being willing to turn their guns on other Americans. Had you ever served in the military, you’d know that the likelihood of that is almost nil. There’s probably a BETTER chance that troops take their government issued weapons, ammo and equipment and go over to the side battling against the government (should it come to that).

But you keep talkin’ out yer ass....it suits you.
What I'm saying is that people being able to own those weapons will not save them. If you are counting on the military to refuse to act as an illegal oppressor as the protection that is fine and I don't think it's necessarily unrealistic. But in that case it's not you being able to own a weapon like that that's protecting you.

But let's say the United States does pass a law banning what they refer to as "assault weapons." They're going to take them away. Yes, there will be illegal weapons out there. But the people running around flying flags like that are not going to keep their weapons.
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Here’s some real fake news you can trust:

Trump Seems to Think an American Invented the Wheel
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Move over, ancient Mesopotamians and Greeks. It appears that the real inventor of the wheel was none other than the Red, White and Blue.

During his Wednesday morning interview with CNBC’s Joe Kernen at the World Economic Forum in Davos, President Donald Trump went off on one of his trademark stream-of-consciousness rants when asked to weigh in on a number of tech and business heavyweights.

After claiming that Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg personally told him he was “number one in the world on Facebook, which is 'very nice,'” the president was then asked to comment on eccentric Tesla CEO Elon Musk.

"Well, you have to give him credit,” the president said. “He's also doing the rockets. He likes rockets, and he does good at rockets too, by the way."

Expressing awe over the fact that Musk’s rockets don’t have wings, Trump explained that the United States needs to “protect our geniuses” like Musk.

“We have to protect Thomas Edison—we have to protect all of these people that came up with originally the light bulb, and the wheel, and all of these things, and he’s one of our very smart people,” Trump added. “We want to cherish those people. That’s very important. He’s done a very good job.”

The president would then go on to claim that Tesla was on the verge of shutting down just a year ago but the company is now “going to be building a very big plant in the United States.”

“He has to,” Trump concluded. “He has to help us.”
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JBB wrote:Supreme Court Poised to Overturn 38 State Constitutional Amendments on Church-State SeparatioN
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Religious conservatives asked the Supreme Court Wednesday to overturn 38 state constitutional amendments and require taxpayers to fund religious schools.

You read that right. The case, Espinoza v. Montana Dept. of Revenue isn’t about whether a state may fund religious schools through a school choice, voucher, or similar program. It’s about whether it must.

And the conservatives might just win.

At issue in the case, probably the most significant church-state case on the 2019-20 docket, is Montana’s “no-aid” amendment to its state constitution, which was revised and passed in 1972. Like similar amendments in 37 other states, it prohibits “direct or indirect funding” for any “sectarian purpose.”

In 2015, the state legislature passed a law that gave a tax credit of up to $150 for donations to a school scholarship program. But in 2018, the Montana Supreme Court struck down the program, saying it violated the 1972 constitutional provision.[JM1]

That’s when a group of religious organizations upped the ante. They went to the Supreme Court, seeking not just to reinstate the program but to toss out the “no-aid” amendment entirely – and, as a consequence, invalidate 37 similar amendments across the country.
That would open the floodgates to the funding of religious schools, especially since the plaintiffs argue that not funding them—previously the constitutional norm—is actually a form of discrimination.

As in many of these cases, how Espinoza looks depends on how you frame it.

For conservatives, this is discrimination. If I want to send my child to a secular private school, I can receive funding (or a voucher, or a scholarship, or whatever). But if I want to send her to a religious one, I can’t.
I’m leaving this forum if this assneck cockmonkey’s blatant refusal to abide by our VERY LENIENT TOS isn’t reined in, STAT


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kalm wrote:Burn in hell Aaron Rogers!

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Well, he went to Cal Berkeley, so there’s that! :lol:

Last time I looked, Cal was no Bob Jones U.
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Why do these dipshits flock to Eastern Wa? My BiL, who's a rural county Under-Sheriff used to talk about these types back in the 90's. Mostly Constitution Party members (I wonder if JSO is still considering joining) but a few of them were involved in some fairly violent crimes.
By Chad Sokol
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The leader of the Base – an international neo-Nazi terrorist organization that has been subject to FBI investigations for plotting to start a race war – has taken many steps to conceal his identity, using the aliases “Roman Spear” and “Norman Wolf.”

According to an investigation published Thursday by the Guardian, the leader’s real name is Rinaldo Nazzaro, a 46-year-old who was born in the United States – and who owns 30 acres of land in rural northeast Washington............

The Guardian found Nazzaro runs a company called Omega Solutions International, which has purported to offer a range of intelligence, security and counterterrorism services for governments, militaries and private businesses. The Guardian found the company has a Commercial and Government Entity, or CAGE, code – a requirement for U.S. military and government contractors.

Along with the Atomwaffen Division and the Feuerkrieg Division, the Base belongs to a relatively new cluster of “accelerationist” hate groups that aim to hasten what they see as an inevitable societal collapse. Doing so, they believe, would enable them to create a white ethnostate from the ashes of liberal democracy. Their tactics are similar to those of the Order, a white supremacist terrorist group born out of Eastern Washington in the 1980s.

The Atomwaffen Division has recruited members of the U.S. military and has been linked with several hate-fueled murders.

The Feuerkrieg Division has had at least one devotee in the Spokane area. In mid-October, the group took credit for flyers that appeared outside the predominantly black Morning Star Baptist Church. The flyers featured swastikas, other Nazi imagery and calls for violence and genocide.


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kalm wrote:Why do these dipshits flock to Eastern Wa? My BiL, who's a rural county Under-Sheriff used to talk about these types back in the 90's. Mostly Constitution Party members (I wonder if JSO is still considering joining) but a few of them were involved in some fairly violent crimes.
By Chad Sokol
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The leader of the Base – an international neo-Nazi terrorist organization that has been subject to FBI investigations for plotting to start a race war – has taken many steps to conceal his identity, using the aliases “Roman Spear” and “Norman Wolf.”

According to an investigation published Thursday by the Guardian, the leader’s real name is Rinaldo Nazzaro, a 46-year-old who was born in the United States – and who owns 30 acres of land in rural northeast Washington............

The Guardian found Nazzaro runs a company called Omega Solutions International, which has purported to offer a range of intelligence, security and counterterrorism services for governments, militaries and private businesses. The Guardian found the company has a Commercial and Government Entity, or CAGE, code – a requirement for U.S. military and government contractors.

Along with the Atomwaffen Division and the Feuerkrieg Division, the Base belongs to a relatively new cluster of “accelerationist” hate groups that aim to hasten what they see as an inevitable societal collapse. Doing so, they believe, would enable them to create a white ethnostate from the ashes of liberal democracy. Their tactics are similar to those of the Order, a white supremacist terrorist group born out of Eastern Washington in the 1980s.

The Atomwaffen Division has recruited members of the U.S. military and has been linked with several hate-fueled murders.

The Feuerkrieg Division has had at least one devotee in the Spokane area. In mid-October, the group took credit for flyers that appeared outside the predominantly black Morning Star Baptist Church. The flyers featured swastikas, other Nazi imagery and calls for violence and genocide.


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kalm wrote:Why do these dipshits flock to Eastern Wa?
Legal weed.

And high quality FCS football on a blinding red synthetic field.
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Started my youngest on a new ADHD medication, guanfacine, which is a non stimulant and seems to be working! Praise be to God.

If you know me, you'd know that I have always been an alternative medicine person and absolutely did not want to put him on medication. But when you see how he is without the medication, it seems like child abuse.

I would like to see if when he starts to calm down around 10, we can taper him off.
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93henfan wrote:
kalm wrote:Why do these dipshits flock to Eastern Wa?
Legal weed.

And high quality FCS football on a blinding red synthetic field.
I'm weeded out! :lol:
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kalm wrote:Why do these dipshits flock to Eastern Wa? My BiL, who's a rural county Under-Sheriff used to talk about these types back in the 90's. Mostly Constitution Party members (I wonder if JSO is still considering joining) but a few of them were involved in some fairly violent crimes.
By Chad Sokol
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(509) 459-5047
The leader of the Base – an international neo-Nazi terrorist organization that has been subject to FBI investigations for plotting to start a race war – has taken many steps to conceal his identity, using the aliases “Roman Spear” and “Norman Wolf.”

According to an investigation published Thursday by the Guardian, the leader’s real name is Rinaldo Nazzaro, a 46-year-old who was born in the United States – and who owns 30 acres of land in rural northeast Washington............

The Guardian found Nazzaro runs a company called Omega Solutions International, which has purported to offer a range of intelligence, security and counterterrorism services for governments, militaries and private businesses. The Guardian found the company has a Commercial and Government Entity, or CAGE, code – a requirement for U.S. military and government contractors.

Along with the Atomwaffen Division and the Feuerkrieg Division, the Base belongs to a relatively new cluster of “accelerationist” hate groups that aim to hasten what they see as an inevitable societal collapse. Doing so, they believe, would enable them to create a white ethnostate from the ashes of liberal democracy. Their tactics are similar to those of the Order, a white supremacist terrorist group born out of Eastern Washington in the 1980s.

The Atomwaffen Division has recruited members of the U.S. military and has been linked with several hate-fueled murders.

The Feuerkrieg Division has had at least one devotee in the Spokane area. In mid-October, the group took credit for flyers that appeared outside the predominantly black Morning Star Baptist Church. The flyers featured swastikas, other Nazi imagery and calls for violence and genocide.


https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/ ... Hhz6-1Xsss
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Well, one guy got the Hayden Lake area and kept "inviting people to wonderful Missoula to participate in our bike race...if you weren't a skin head"! I think he wrote that on about 20 invites!
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SeattleGriz wrote:
kalm wrote:Why do these dipshits flock to Eastern Wa? My BiL, who's a rural county Under-Sheriff used to talk about these types back in the 90's. Mostly Constitution Party members (I wonder if JSO is still considering joining) but a few of them were involved in some fairly violent crimes.





https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/ ... Hhz6-1Xsss
Years ago, when I used to race bicycles, our team would host a yearly multi-day bike race. You simply asked the United States Cycling Federation for a regional mailing list and they would provide you with names and addresses of licensed racers. We would always throw on a hand written note to make it more personal.

Well, one guy got the Hayden Lake area and kept "inviting people to wonderful Missoula to participate in our bike race...if you weren't a skin head"! I think he wrote that on about 20 invites!
What’s funny is that Hayden is a nice area with some big money around the lake and the Country Club.

They used to have a Calcutta with a $80,000 pot.
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kalm wrote:
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Years ago, when I used to race bicycles, our team would host a yearly multi-day bike race. You simply asked the United States Cycling Federation for a regional mailing list and they would provide you with names and addresses of licensed racers. We would always throw on a hand written note to make it more personal.

Well, one guy got the Hayden Lake area and kept "inviting people to wonderful Missoula to participate in our bike race...if you weren't a skin head"! I think he wrote that on about 20 invites!
What’s funny is that Hayden is a nice area with some big money around the lake and the Country Club.

They used to have a Calcutta with a $80,000 pot.
Calcutta pot must be pretty good sh!t to go for $80K. :lol:
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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
What’s funny is that Hayden is a nice area with some big money around the lake and the Country Club.

They used to have a Calcutta with a $80,000 pot.
Calcutta pot must be pretty good sh!t to go for $80K. :lol:
Ok that was an autocorrect capitalization. :tothehand:

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This is just too obvious:

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-spa ... off-2020-1

And I don't buy the delta symbol has been used since the 1940s thing.

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JohnStOnge wrote:This is just too obvious:

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-spa ... off-2020-1

And I don't buy the delta symbol has been used since the 1940s thing.

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Yea, It’s so totally different than the patch used by The USAF Space Command since it’s inception in 1982...


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Col Hogan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:This is just too obvious:

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-spa ... off-2020-1

And I don't buy the delta symbol has been used since the 1940s thing.

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Yea, It’s so totally different than the patch used by The USAF Space Command since it’s inception in 1982...


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JohnStOnge wrote:This is just too obvious:

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-spa ... off-2020-1

And I don't buy the delta symbol has been used since the 1940s thing.

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Holy shit, you're right!

They're both circles.

That does it. I'm done with Trump for good now.
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mainejeff2 wrote:The Trumps have a a history of plagiarism & stealing ideas....but it’s only bad if the Chinese do it.

That being said.....who really cares? everything is copied these days....there are NO original ideas. :thumb:

Just keep those high double digits gains going on my retirement accounts. :thumb: :thumb:

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Actually if you Google “trump plagiarism” and “Biden plagiarism” you’ll get some divergent responses


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93henfan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:This is just too obvious:

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-spa ... off-2020-1

And I don't buy the delta symbol has been used since the 1940s thing.

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Holy shit, you're right!

They're both circles.

That does it. I'm done with Trump for good now.
You're just triggered by the lack of symmetry with the one on the right. :coffee:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Holy shit, you're right!

They're both circles.

That does it. I'm done with Trump for good now.
You're just triggered by the lack of symmetry with the one on the right. :coffee:
No lie! The left leg of that delta thing and part of the orbit protruding outside the inner circle border is horse shit!
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CID1990 wrote:
mainejeff2 wrote:The Trumps have a a history of plagiarism & stealing ideas....but it’s only bad if the Chinese do it.

That being said.....who really cares? everything is copied these days....there are NO original ideas. :thumb:

Just keep those high double digits gains going on my retirement accounts. :thumb: :thumb:

:coffee:
Actually if you Google “trump plagiarism” and “Biden plagiarism” you’ll get some divergent responses


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Suck it, Columbus! Mark's peeps were here first!

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/hist ... r-columbus
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kalm wrote:Suck it, Columbus! Mark's peeps were here first!

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/hist ... r-columbus
Yeah I’m going to debunk this right here

1) Spaniards would have recognized a Gaelic based language as their own ethnic minorities were Celtic and their dialects are very similar

2) Irish are generally unrecognizable from most other temperate zone savages

3) The only voyage of discovery performed by Irish is finding their own houses after leaving the pub

BTW #1 is true

Everybody know the Vikings discovered America in the 9th century. There is hard proof of a settlement in Canada. Proof enough for me, anyway


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