And therein lies the rub.UNI88 wrote:What's a greater threat to our Republic? The megacorps or the government itself?kalm wrote:
And they were challenged by things like the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, or the New Deal, or the Revolutionary War.![]()
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Well given what is going on in China and the coronavirus, safe to say letting a strong centralized government handle these kinds of things isn't going well either.Chizzang wrote:This dovetails in nicely with our conversation about what is a Democracy
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"merely" may not have been the right choice of words.houndawg wrote:"Merely" codified it? I think thats a pretty big deal - an official statement of GAME OVER from the government to the governed.AZGrizFan wrote:
That changed nothing. Merely codified it.
Bottom line--not much changed, other than government acknowledgement of something that's been occurring for decades.
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I agree - I'm just saying that making our oligarchy officially the law of the land is a big deal even if its only recognizing the status quoAZGrizFan wrote:"merely" may not have been the right choice of words.houndawg wrote:
"Merely" codified it? I think thats a pretty big deal - an official statement of GAME OVER from the government to the governed.![]()
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Bottom line--not much changed, other than government acknowledgement of something that's been occurring for decades.
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I actually heard the opposite take on NPR. The take there is that the Chinese government learned its lesson from SARS and is doing a good job of containing the situation.SDHornet wrote:Well given what is going on in China and the coronavirus, safe to say letting a strong centralized government handle these kinds of things isn't going well either.Chizzang wrote:This dovetails in nicely with our conversation about what is a Democracy
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
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And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
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True.SDHornet wrote:Well given what is going on in China and the coronavirus, safe to say letting a strong centralized government handle these kinds of things isn't going well either.Chizzang wrote:This dovetails in nicely with our conversation about what is a Democracy
And don’t forget, when there’s profit involved healthy patients ain’t good for business either. Now...please avoid fat, drink your milk, make sure you have loads of grains and we’ll put a little sugar or corn syrup on everything to make it go down better.
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Agreed....not a good trend for sure.houndawg wrote:I agree - I'm just saying that making our oligarchy officially the law of the land is a big deal even if its only recognizing the status quoAZGrizFan wrote:
"merely" may not have been the right choice of words.![]()
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Bottom line--not much changed, other than government acknowledgement of something that's been occurring for decades.
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Yes, I warned you about that back when Citizens United passed.AZGrizFan wrote:Agreed....not a good trend for sure.houndawg wrote:
I agree - I'm just saying that making our oligarchy officially the law of the land is a big deal even if its only recognizing the status quo
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I highly doubt that. Speculation is that this thing started a few weeks ago and the government really didn't take it serious until it got fairly widespread which of course means it was too late. Also this is a communist government we're talking about that is releasing info. Yeah, no reason to give it too much credibility.JohnStOnge wrote:I actually heard the opposite take on NPR. The take there is that the Chinese government learned its lesson from SARS and is doing a good job of containing the situation.SDHornet wrote: Well given what is going on in China and the coronavirus, safe to say letting a strong centralized government handle these kinds of things isn't going well either.
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Agreed. NPR is dominated by ChiComm sympathizers.SDHornet wrote:I highly doubt that. Speculation is that this thing started a few weeks ago and the government really didn't take it serious until it got fairly widespread which of course means it was too late. Also this is a communist government we're talking about that is releasing info. Yeah, no reason to give it too much credibility.JohnStOnge wrote:
I actually heard the opposite take on NPR. The take there is that the Chinese government learned its lesson from SARS and is doing a good job of containing the situation.
And Democrats.
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Thank you Nostradumbass. Virtually every poster on this board was against it....but somehow YOU'RE the genius.houndawg wrote:Yes, I warned you about that back when Citizens United passed.AZGrizFan wrote:
Agreed....not a good trend for sure.
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What’s this “virtually” shit? I was for it.AZGrizFan wrote:Thank you Nostradumbass. Virtually every poster on this board was against it....but somehow YOU'RE the genius.houndawg wrote:
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Well I was going to say "literally", but that would imply that 100% of the posters were against it. "Virtually" gives me some wiggle room. Just a "skosh" though. A "smidge". "Figuratively" speaking, of course.Ivytalk wrote:What’s this “virtually” shit? I was for it.AZGrizFan wrote:
Thank you Nostradumbass. Virtually every poster on this board was against it....but somehow YOU'RE the genius.![]()
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