Officer says he'll 'never apologize'...

[AZGrizFan]

Yeah. Cuz there's no such thing as a black racist, right?

Hell, no!

Dude is a professor at the most highly regarded educational institution in America and yet he STILL has a huge chip on his shoulder. Yeah, sounds like "the man" has REALLY kept him down....

[Cap'n Cat]

Hell, no!

Dude is a professor at the most highly regarded educational institution in America and yet he STILL has a huge chip on his shoulder. Yeah, sounds like "the man" has REALLY kept him down....

WTF, Z? The guy's a bootstrapper like old Clare Thomas!

[Wedgebuster]

Hell, no!

Dude is a professor at the most highly regarded educational institution in America and yet he STILL has a huge chip on his shoulder. Yeah, sounds like "the man" has REALLY kept him down....

It ain't in spite of the fact he made it where he did, it is because of the way he got there, know what I mean Vern? *wink* *wink*

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Also doesn't hurt that Gates teaches a class on racial studies or whatever it is if he get's involved in a high profile case his own self. I'm not saying he manufactured this but it doesn't hurt his teachings at all to have "personal experience" with it whether it is manufactured or not. I'll guarantee that the last time the house was broken into he was saying something along the lines of "Where's a fucking cop when you need one!"

He may not be a douchebag but but he's acting like a real fine replica.

[wkuhillhound]

...Does anyone else find it ironic that the officer's name is Jim Crowley. Maybe I'm thinking about another Crow that deals with race.

No.

It's ironic to me and I'm sticking to it. We need a whistle smilie.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

No.

It's ironic to me and I'm sticking to it. We need a whistle smilie.

It is slightly ironic but was even more ironic in the case of Reggie.

[travelinman67]

Typical Conk shit.

Try and get T and Z to admit Bush was a complete fvck for a president. Same thing. They're always right and the normal rules of society don't apply to them.

All that pot smoking has destroyed your memory. I've repeatedly stated that Bush was a nincompoop. Truth is, I only supported about 25-30% of all his policies/actions. And most of the policies/actions I supported were his laissez faire policies. While I didn't agree with Bush's genuine underlying motivation for our involvement in Iraq, I DID support the military action, just for different reasons.

But, BTT...

I've listened to detailed reports of the Gates incidents from both sides, and TECHNICALLY the officer was legally justified for his actions. From a discretionary view, however, he could have de-escalated the situation, but Gates over-the-top belligerence failed the attitude test negating any chance the situation could be resolved without someone losing face: And that "win" never goes to the person in handcuffs. Just one of those things...and but for Gates position as a heralded limousine liberal, nobody would have ever heard about this incident.
BTW, this had nothing to do with Gates being black...it had everything to do wth him being an an anti-authoritarian asshole. Plenty of people of all colors in "that category"...just that most anti-authoritarian assholes KNOW they're that way, have had their ass kicked at least a few times, and understand it comes with the territory.

[Cap'n Cat]

Typical Conk shit.

Try and get T and Z to admit Bush was a complete fvck for a president. Same thing. They're always right and the normal rules of society don't apply to them.

All that pot smoking has destroyed your memory. I've repeatedly stated that Bush was a nincompoop. Truth is, I only supported about 25-30% of all his policies/actions. And most of the policies/actions I supported were his laissez faire policies. While I didn't agree with Bush's genuine underlying motivation for our involvement in Iraq, I DID support the military action, just for different reasons.

But, BTT...

I've listened to detailed reports of the Gates incidents from both sides, and TECHNICALLY the officer was legally justified for his actions. From a discretionary view, however, he could have de-escalated the situation, but Gates over-the-top belligerence failed the attitude test negating any chance the situation could be resolved without someone losing face: And that "win" never goes to the person in handcuffs. Just one of those things...and but for Gates position as a heralded limousine liberal, nobody would have ever heard about this incident.
BTW, this had nothing to do with Gates being black...it had everything to do wth him being an an anti-authoritarian asshole. Plenty of people of all colors in "that category"...just that most anti-authoritarian assholes KNOW they're that way, have had their ass kicked at least a few times, and understand it comes with the territory.

T, T, T......

Hang on. I was just playin' with you guys. I love ya. Don't care about Bush, don't much care about Obama. Kinda given up.

I ain't following the Gates thing, don't want to, it's just another ridiculous, pointless media circus that's just gonna create more bad feelings amongst everyone.

You're right.

BTW, haven't smoked pot in months. Been out.

[wkuhillhound]

It's ironic to me and I'm sticking to it. We need a whistle smilie.

It is slightly ironic but was even more ironic in the case of Reggie.

I guess you can say he is an attention whore.

[Cap'n Cat]

It is slightly ironic but was even more ironic in the case of Reggie.

I guess you can say he is an attention whore.

Um excuse me? Someone call me? Thought I heard my name. No? OK. Damn, I was sure someone called my name. Guess not. Too bad. OK, carry on. You're sure now?

[wkuhillhound]

I guess you can say he is an attention whore.

Um excuse me? Someone call me? Thought I heard my name. No? OK. Damn, I was sure someone called my name. Guess not. Too bad. OO, carry on. You're sure now?

Nothing to see here, just Jim Crowley making more news.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

It is slightly ironic but was even more ironic in the case of Reggie.

I guess you can say he is an attention whore.

No doubt. He's on a torrid pace now, once every 16 yrs. or so we'll be seeing him doing something the way it ought to be done and he'll get attention for it.


Anybody seen Cap'n around? I've been calling him.

[death dealer]

All that pot smoking has destroyed your memory. I've repeatedly stated that Bush was a nincompoop. Truth is, I only supported about 25-30% of all his policies/actions. And most of the policies/actions I supported were his laissez faire policies. While I didn't agree with Bush's genuine underlying motivation for our involvement in Iraq, I DID support the military action, just for different reasons.

But, BTT...

I've listened to detailed reports of the Gates incidents from both sides, and TECHNICALLY the officer was legally justified for his actions. From a discretionary view, however, he could have de-escalated the situation, but Gates over-the-top belligerence failed the attitude test negating any chance the situation could be resolved without someone losing face: And that "win" never goes to the person in handcuffs. Just one of those things...and but for Gates position as a heralded limousine liberal, nobody would have ever heard about this incident.
BTW, this had nothing to do with Gates being black...it had everything to do wth him being an an anti-authoritarian asshole. Plenty of people of all colors in "that category"...just that most anti-authoritarian assholes KNOW they're that way, have had their ass kicked at least a few times, and understand it comes with the territory.

T, T, T......

Hang on. I was just playin' with you guys. I love ya. Don't care about Bush, don't much care about Obama. Kinda given up.

I ain't following the Gates thing, don't want to, it's just another ridiculous, pointless media circus that's just gonna create more bad feelings amongst everyone.

You're right.

BTW, haven't smoked pot in months. Been out.

You should come down South Cappy. There's bushels of it laying around down here!!!

While that may be a slight exaggeration, it is true that there seems to be an inordinately large amount of the good stuff on the market, and the prices are unbelievabley low. I guess that will be the silver lining of this recession. Unless, of course some growers decide to call it quits.

[Cap'n Cat]

T, T, T......

Hang on. I was just playin' with you guys. I love ya. Don't care about Bush, don't much care about Obama. Kinda given up.

I ain't following the Gates thing, don't want to, it's just another ridiculous, pointless media circus that's just gonna create more bad feelings amongst everyone.

You're right.

BTW, haven't smoked pot in months. Been out.

You should come down South Cappy. There's bushels of it laying around down here!!!

While that may be a slight exaggeration, it is true that there seems to be an inordinately large amount of the good stuff on the market, and the prices are unbelievabley low. I guess that will be the silver lining of this recession. Unless, of course some growers decide to call it quits.

I'll be back down there asap, DD.

[CID1990]

I did the LE thing for 17 years. Most of that was in patrol, with a little bit in investigations and narcotics. I supervised all kinds of cops. I must have run into this same situation a million times. I was mostly in our downtown district that was mostly black. Sometimes, the "here's my ID, no problem here" scenario played out. However, more often than not, there was hollering and yelling, black man can't be left alone in his own house, blah blah blah. Maybe the whole belligerent, uncooperative attitude is cultural, like the hispanic machismo, I don't know. Sometimes we were able to satisfy whatever reason we had for being there and were able to leave. usually with the guy yelling at us the whole time.

Imagine doing that for years... the same old thing, the same old mantra, over and over and over. Add to that the occasional high profile case like this one when suddenly all cops are douchebags. Imagine sitting in a diner at 0300 trying to get some breakfast between calls with some a$$hole drunk in the next booth mumbling about donuts and bacon. Add to that the knowledge that you have always given everybody an even break... I delivered a couple babies, comforted countless mothers in grief, attended many murder scenes, returned runaways home, performed CPR, pulled an old woman out of a car submerged in a canal, mentored inner city kids, even bought groceries for a mother so she could keep her kids. These people were all black. Yet night in and night out, I get called racist, spit at, have piss balloons dropped out of apartment windows, and about once every two or three weeks I got the privilege of going down to Internal Affairs and grilled by some ladder climber about whether I was rude to some guy or put the handcuffs on too tight after arresting him for beating down his baby mama.

I'm no hero, either. For every one bad cop there are 1000 guys just like I was. Giving everyone an even break, and trying to be as fair as possible while enforcing the law. I got fed up and tired of it about two years ago. I called my marker due for past work in the foreign affairs community, took a new job, and hung up the badge. My blood pressure and budding hypertension are now under control after only 5 months off the job. And you know what? I have all the respect in the world for the guys still doing the job. I pulled up to an Arlington County cop last week and just told him thank you. But I pity those guys, too, because it is the most thankless, onerous job in the world. Even military guys eventually get to come home from war. Cops are at it from day one until they quit or they die.

James Crowley, the officer who arrested Henry Louis Gates, Jr is the very same James Crowley who performed CPR on Celtics star Reggie Lewis about 16 years ago. He was called a racist for not doing enough. I can only wonder what it is that keeps him going to work. If I was a private employer I would offer the guy a job shoveling sh!t. It would be an improvement over what he does now.

As for the public, I can finally say piss on the public, especially in Charleston, SC. You're on your own. I hope they replaced me with a young guy who still thinks he can save the world (although you do not deserve him). I just hope he has the good sense to get out before it kills him.

[BlueHen86]

From what I've read and heard, I have to side with the cop here. Gates was belligerent while in the house - and followed the cops outside after they left while continuing to be a problem. Neighbors who witnessed the arrest said the same thing.

Obama should have kept his mouth shut.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

From what I've read and heard, I have to side with the cop here. Gates was belligerent while in the house - and followed the cops outside after they left while continuing to be a problem. Neighbors who witnessed the arrest said the same thing.

Obama should have kept his mouth shut.

Yeah the Obama thing was fucking ridiculous too. He should have gotten the facts before running his pie hole.

[Col Hogan]

I've got it all qued up, Cappy....right after you admit Clinton was a lying, cheating, slimy **** of a president who gutted the country for his own personal good and left Bush a bucket of **** to deal with.

Or, "queued", one of the two.

*******************

Relax, Cujo. Cap'n was funnin. BTW, LMAO @ "personal good" and the bucket of sh*t Clinton left for Bush.

You take it easy, too, you Conk pit bull fvck, Hoagie.

I thought you forgot all about me Chubby Cheeks...but you really didn't answer my question, now did you...

[danefan]

I did the LE thing for 17 years. Most of that was in patrol, with a little bit in investigations and narcotics. I supervised all kinds of cops. I must have run into this same situation a million times. I was mostly in our downtown district that was mostly black. Sometimes, the "here's my ID, no problem here" scenario played out. However, more often than not, there was hollering and yelling, black man can't be left alone in his own house, blah blah blah. Maybe the whole belligerent, uncooperative attitude is cultural, like the hispanic machismo, I don't know. Sometimes we were able to satisfy whatever reason we had for being there and were able to leave. usually with the guy yelling at us the whole time.

Imagine doing that for years... the same old thing, the same old mantra, over and over and over. Add to that the occasional high profile case like this one when suddenly all cops are douchebags. Imagine sitting in a diner at 0300 trying to get some breakfast between calls with some a$$hole drunk in the next booth mumbling about donuts and bacon. Add to that the knowledge that you have always given everybody an even break... I delivered a couple babies, comforted countless mothers in grief, attended many murder scenes, returned runaways home, performed CPR, pulled an old woman out of a car submerged in a canal, mentored inner city kids, even bought groceries for a mother so she could keep her kids. These people were all black. Yet night in and night out, I get called racist, spit at, have piss balloons dropped out of apartment windows, and about once every two or three weeks I got the privilege of going down to Internal Affairs and grilled by some ladder climber about whether I was rude to some guy or put the handcuffs on too tight after arresting him for beating down his baby mama.

I'm no hero, either. For every one bad cop there are 1000 guys just like I was. Giving everyone an even break, and trying to be as fair as possible while enforcing the law. I got fed up and tired of it about two years ago. I called my marker due for past work in the foreign affairs community, took a new job, and hung up the badge. My blood pressure and budding hypertension are now under control after only 5 months off the job. And you know what? I have all the respect in the world for the guys still doing the job. I pulled up to an Arlington County cop last week and just told him thank you. But I pity those guys, too, because it is the most thankless, onerous job in the world. Even military guys eventually get to come home from war. Cops are at it from day one until they quit or they die.

James Crowley, the officer who arrested Henry Louis Gates, Jr is the very same James Crowley who performed CPR on Celtics star Reggie Lewis about 16 years ago. He was called a racist for not doing enough. I can only wonder what it is that keeps him going to work. If I was a private employer I would offer the guy a job shoveling sh!t. It would be an improvement over what he does now.

As for the public, I can finally say piss on the public, especially in Charleston, SC. You're on your own. I hope they replaced me with a young guy who still thinks he can save the world (although you do not deserve him). I just hope he has the good sense to get out before it kills him.

I don't usually agree with much you say, but this I am in 100% agreement with. I've got a few really good friends that are NYPD and this sentiment and story are all too familiar.

[AZGrizFan]

I don't usually agree with much you say, but this I am in 100% agreement with. I've got a few really good friends that are NYPD and this sentiment and story are all too familiar.

After watching the shit the NYPD cops were dealing with in downtown NYC last night, I wouldn't do that job for $250,000 a year.

I thank you for your service, CID.

[NorthernCOU]

I just saw that interview with that cop, he looks like a prick, just like most cops. If you don't think some cops are racist or racial profile, you must be a faggot.

[dbackjon]

Gates was dealing with a cop on a call, he refused to identify himself. What happens next can be about anything.

Reminds me of that black lady congress person who got confronted by a security cop at the Capitol after hours, she just assumed she was so damn important that everybody would know just exactly who and what she is.

Seems like most everybody forgot who she was at the next election.

Plenty of white congress critters do the same.



In this case I don't see the officer doing anything wrong

[AZGrizFan]

I just saw that interview with that cop, he looks like a prick, just like most cops. If you don't think some cops are raciest, you must be a faggot.

mplsbison, is that you?

[danefan]

I don't usually agree with much you say, but this I am in 100% agreement with. I've got a few really good friends that are NYPD and this sentiment and story are all too familiar.

After watching the shit the NYPD cops were dealing with in downtown NYC last night, I wouldn't do that job for $250,000 a year.

I thank you for your service, CID.

Wait are you in NY now?

[BlueHen86]

I just saw that interview with that cop, he looks like a prick, just like most cops. If you don't think some cops are racist or racial profile, you must be a faggot.

Most idiotic post of the day.