I hate Government

[dbackjon]

So you move to a state to take advantages of the opportunities afforded in that state, but you don't want to follow the rules of said state.

Why SHOULDN'T someone that makes money, uses services in a state pay their fair share?

We get all these jack-a-lopes that spend 4-6 months of the year here in Arizona, clogging the roads that Vehicle Registration paid a good chunk of, yet they refuse to register the vehicle here.

And then they turn around and bitch about the roads, and about "lazy welfare people" when in fact THEY are the problem.

You mean retiree snowbirds, Jon?

A lot. And there is also a fair number of very wealthy people that spend winters here, working from home, etc, then leave in the summer.

I had a long conversation with Scottsdale's waste management director over their proposal to do away with alley service and do curbside - because there is so much development in far north Scottsdale, they needed bigger trucks to make the 20+ mile trek from the central office, and the bigger trucks can't fit well down the alleys that are common in the older part of Scottsdale. When I brought up why should my service suffer because of the higher costs to serve the rich neighborhoods, he tried to justify it by saying that for half the year, a good number of the $1 million plus homes are vacant and produce no trash...

[Pwns]

Progressives tend to love the very most regressive taxes...tobacco, gas, junk food, this here doesnt sound different.

It's not that unusual for recent college grads to have a parent's name on the title and they'll have to go through the same expensive hassle if they move to California.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

So you move to a state to take advantages of the opportunities afforded in that state, but you don't want to follow the rules of said state.

Why SHOULDN'T someone that makes money, uses services in a state pay their fair share?

We get all these jack-a-lopes that spend 4-6 months of the year here in Arizona, clogging the roads that Vehicle Registration paid a good chunk of, yet they refuse to register the vehicle here.

And then they turn around and bitch about the roads, and about "lazy welfare people" when in fact THEY are the problem.

I dont think I have ever remembered loving a post on here more than this one!

I dare you expect "illegals" to follow the law? They are just trying to better their lives........................

[AZGrizFan]

So you move to a state to take advantages of the opportunities afforded in that state, but you don't want to follow the rules of said state.

Why SHOULDN'T someone that makes money, uses services in a state pay their fair share?

We get all these jack-a-lopes that spend 4-6 months of the year here in Arizona, clogging the roads that Vehicle Registration paid a good chunk of, yet they refuse to register the vehicle here.

And then they turn around and bitch about the roads, and about "lazy welfare people" when in fact THEY are the problem.

Jon, you misunderstand, as usual. I'm willing to pay a fee. I'm asking for the PROCESS to be streamlined. One federally controlled process, instead of 50 individual ones.

But don't let that get in the way of a good rant on your part.

And I'd LOVE to hear Klammy's logic on how Jon's post is an example of wealth transfer....

[AZGrizFan]

You mean retiree snowbirds, Jon?

A lot. And there is also a fair number of very wealthy people that spend winters here, working from home, etc, then leave in the summer.

I had a long conversation with Scottsdale's waste management director over their proposal to do away with alley service and do curbside - because there is so much development in far north Scottsdale, they needed bigger trucks to make the 20+ mile trek from the central office, and the bigger trucks can't fit well down the alleys that are common in the older part of Scottsdale. When I brought up why should my service suffer because of the higher costs to serve the rich neighborhoods, he tried to justify it by saying that for half the year, a good number of the $1 million plus homes are vacant and produce no trash...

And he's right. Just like at my lakehouse...I turn off trash service during the winters, saving them (and thus all the other customers) money. Sometimes logic is a bitch, Jon.

[Skjellyfetti]

Is she a student or working?

[Winterborn]

Montana has a good little side racket going on for a number of years in that area. Specifically one little county handles most of the supercar licensing for the western half of the country due to cheaper taxes and not having to worry about emission testing. There is (last I checked) a firm that you can hire, they do all the paperwork, provide a P.O. Box and address and handle licensing, taxes, and whatever else you may need done to maintain registration on the vehicle and you just write them a check once a year.

My folks and sister both have houses in Montana plus my nephew is a GM at a Missoula car dealership
so it's no problem...

Nothing wrong with that and I am definitely not saying anything against it. Just that I looked into creating a LLC and registering all my vehicles under it when I was looking at jobs along the west coast, as none of my vehicles at the time would past emissions testing nor would they ever be capable (in that form) of passing emissions testing.

[AZGrizFan]

Is she a student or working?

working full time.

[UNI88]

So you move to a state to take advantages of the opportunities afforded in that state, but you don't want to follow the rules of said state.

Why SHOULDN'T someone that makes money, uses services in a state pay their fair share?

We get all these jack-a-lopes that spend 4-6 months of the year here in Arizona, clogging the roads that Vehicle Registration paid a good chunk of, yet they refuse to register the vehicle here.

And then they turn around and bitch about the roads, and about "lazy welfare people" when in fact THEY are the problem.

Jon, you misunderstand, as usual. I'm willing to pay a fee. I'm asking for the PROCESS to be streamlined. One federally controlled process, instead of 50 individual ones.

But don't let that get in the way of a good rant on your part.

And I'd LOVE to hear Klammy's logic on how Jon's post is an example of wealth transfer....

That one had me scratching my head. I moved to Oregon in April and didn't register my vehicle until January. Was I facilitating the transfer of wealth? Or was I just saving money because I'd already paid for one state's registration?

[Ivytalk]

Jon, you misunderstand, as usual. I'm willing to pay a fee. I'm asking for the PROCESS to be streamlined. One federally controlled process, instead of 50 individual ones.

But don't let that get in the way of a good rant on your part.

And I'd LOVE to hear Klammy's logic on how Jon's post is an example of wealth transfer....

That one had me scratching my head. I moved to Oregon in April and didn't register my vehicle until January. Was I facilitating the transfer of wealth? Or was I just saving money because I'd already paid for one state's registration?

Take a position, Dammit!

[Skjellyfetti]

Is she a student or working?

working full time.

Ah. Ok. Probably time to cut the cord, then.

[AZGrizFan]

working full time.

Ah. Ok. Probably time to cut the cord, then.

Sheeeeit. She's more expensive THERE than she was during college.

FACT.

[AZGrizFan]

That one had me scratching my head. I moved to Oregon in April and didn't register my vehicle until January. Was I facilitating the transfer of wealth? Or was I just saving money because I'd already paid for one state's registration?

Take a position, Dammit!

Still waiting for Klammy's reasoning....

[Ivytalk]

Ah. Ok. Probably time to cut the cord, then.

Sheeeeit. She's more expensive THERE than she was during college.

FACT.

LA cost of living > Lubbock, TX

Just sayin’.

[Ibanez]

Ah. Ok. Probably time to cut the cord, then.

Sheeeeit. She's more expensive THERE than she was during college.

FACT.

Definitely time to cut the cord.

My dad fronted me $700 in 2006, a year after college graduation. He gave me the check and a loan schedule. Looking back, he was so right to do so.


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[kalm]

Take a position, Dammit!

Still waiting for Klammy's reasoning....

Tax revenue funding via compulsory fees which you and I can afford less but the lower middle class and working poor take a greater hit. Government is going to exact it’s pound of flesh to maintain infrastructure and services whether it’s through regressive tax policy like sales tax and licensing fees or income, B&O, or vats.

[AZGrizFan]

Sheeeeit. She's more expensive THERE than she was during college.

FACT.

LA cost of living > Lubbock, TX

Just sayin’.

LA cost of Living > Lubbock Cost of Living + Texas Tech tuition + Texas Tech books +++

[AZGrizFan]

Still waiting for Klammy's reasoning....

Tax revenue funding via compulsory fees which you and I can afford less but the lower middle class and working poor take a greater hit. Government is going to exact it’s pound of flesh to maintain infrastructure and services whether it’s through regressive tax policy like sales tax and licensing fees or income, B&O, or vats.

OK. I thought you were suggesting that my not paying timely was a form of wealth transfer....

[kalm]

Tax revenue funding via compulsory fees which you and I can afford less but the lower middle class and working poor take a greater hit. Government is going to exact it’s pound of flesh to maintain infrastructure and services whether it’s through regressive tax policy like sales tax and licensing fees or income, B&O, or vats.

OK. I thought you were suggesting that my not paying timely was a form of wealth transfer....

Fuck no. Sorry Z if I portrayed it that way. I’m with ya on the onerous rules and fees.

[AZGrizFan]

OK. I thought you were suggesting that my not paying timely was a form of wealth transfer....

Fuck no. Sorry Z if I portrayed it that way. I’m with ya on the onerous rules and fees.

And like I told Jon, I’m willing to pay the fees, every year just like I do now...just seems like there’s GOT to be a better way than chaos just because there’s a mythical state line between where you lived, and where you moved to.

[∞∞∞]

I hate government, says the veteran with all benefits afforded to him by government during and after his enlistment.

I hate government, says the man who will murder someone for the Constitution - a document which outlines government.

[AZGrizFan]

I hate government, says the veteran with all benefits afforded to him by government during and after his enlistment.

I hate government, says the man who will murder someone for the Constitution - a document which outlines government.

Please list all the “benefits” you think I’ve been afforded so I can school your ass.

I hate the INEFFICIENCY of government.

[∞∞∞]

I hate government, says the veteran with all benefits afforded to him by government during and after his enlistment.

I hate government, says the man who will murder someone for the Constitution - a document which outlines government.

Please list all the “benefits” you think I’ve been afforded so I can school your ass.

I hate the INEFFICIENCY of government.

Inefficiency is good. Protects democracy, amirite?

Exhibit A: United States Constitution

[AZGrizFan]

Please list all the “benefits” you think I’ve been afforded so I can school your ass.

I hate the INEFFICIENCY of government.

Inefficiency is good. Protects democracy, amirite?

Certain kinds of inefficiency. Yes.

[UNI88]

I hate government, says the veteran with all benefits afforded to him by government during and after his enlistment.

I hate government, says the man who will murder someone for the Constitution - a document which outlines government.

You're calling out AZ for the benefits that he has received in exchange for his service but you want to give benefits to people for nothing? The GI Bill and veterans benefits are available to all those looking for help with college, healthcare, etc. All they have to do is enlist.

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