"I'm just another one of the prophets that went to jail for the Gospel,"
http://www.sounddogs.com/previews/101/m ... OGS_Cr.mp3Grizalltheway wrote:Where are all of the moderate Christians to denounce and/or stop him from doing this???
He's denounced from every corner of the country.Grizalltheway wrote:Where are all of the moderate Christians to denounce and/or stop him from doing this???
I'm a moderate Christian...I would guess by your standards...and he deserves to dieGrizalltheway wrote:Where are all of the moderate Christians to denounce and/or stop him from doing this???
I have been paying attention - and curious - about American Christianities non-existent battle against it's lunatic fringe... almost nobody has attempted to organize and stand-down the christian nut groupsnative wrote:He's denounced from every corner of the country.Grizalltheway wrote:Where are all of the moderate Christians to denounce and/or stop him from doing this???
Name a Christian that stood up for him? You can't. None did so. That's ridiculous. "Progressives" were the only ones who actually stood up for this creep.
DING DING DING!Cleets Part 2 wrote:I have been paying attention - and curious - about American Christianities non-existent battle against it's lunatic fringe... almost nobody has attempted to organize and stand-down the christian nut groupsnative wrote:
He's denounced from every corner of the country.
Name a Christian that stood up for him? You can't. None did so. That's ridiculous. "Progressives" were the only ones who actually stood up for this creep.
it's a curious situation, because we as a nation have been accusing Islam of not policing it's lunatic fringe
It's got to be tough to organize (I'm thinking) there are many pitfalls and potential issues in grass rooting together, from an already organized religion, a counter fringe group...Grizalltheway wrote:DING DING DING!Cleets Part 2 wrote:
I have been paying attention - and curious - about American Christianities non-existent battle against it's lunatic fringe... almost nobody has attempted to organize and stand-down the christian nut groups
it's a curious situation, because we as a nation have been accusing Islam of not policing it's lunatic fringe
Exactly. If you're a Muslim in Indonesia trying to scrape a living out of the dirt, you don't exactly have the means to stop the Taliban from doing the things they do. You can disagree with them and denounce them all you want (and a lot of them do), but beyond that...what? It's the same deal with this kinder ficker. I'm sure 99% of Christians disagreed vehemently with what he did, but they had no real way of stopping him.Cleets Part 2 wrote:It's got to be tough to organize (I'm thinking) there are many pitfalls and potential issues in grass rooting together, from an already organized religion, a counter fringe group...Grizalltheway wrote:
DING DING DING!
I mean it sounds easy to say: "Hey you guys.. Police your nuts and get this handled"
But if you actually ponder the process... how do you begin..?
I belong quite sincerely to a loosely assembled organization of science oriented professionals who believe in "God" or more accurately believe that God exists - and I can't imagine trying to organize us...
just my 2 cents
i'm really glad these last two posts were made, because this was fast becoming one of the dumbest arguments on this board, ever (and that's going some)Grizalltheway wrote:Exactly. If you're a Muslim in Indonesia trying to scrape a living out of the dirt, you don't exactly have the means to stop the Taliban from doing the things they do. You can disagree with them and denounce them all you want (and a lot of them do), but beyond that...what? It's the same deal with this kinder ficker. I'm sure 99% of Christians disagreed vehemently with what he did, but they had no real way of stopping him.Cleets Part 2 wrote:
It's got to be tough to organize (I'm thinking) there are many pitfalls and potential issues in grass rooting together, from an already organized religion, a counter fringe group...
I mean it sounds easy to say: "Hey you guys.. Police your nuts and get this handled"
But if you actually ponder the process... how do you begin..?
I belong quite sincerely to a loosely assembled organization of science oriented professionals who believe in "God" or more accurately believe that God exists - and I can't imagine trying to organize us...
just my 2 cents
Well, we could continue policing them with 500 lb lazer guided bombs!Grizalltheway wrote:DING DING DING!Cleets Part 2 wrote:
I have been paying attention - and curious - about American Christianities non-existent battle against it's lunatic fringe... almost nobody has attempted to organize and stand-down the christian nut groups
it's a curious situation, because we as a nation have been accusing Islam of not policing it's lunatic fringe
Well, in this case, the Christians in this nation had the guy arrested, tried, convicted and are now sending him to jail. That's not good enough?Cleets Part 2 wrote:I have been paying attention - and curious - about American Christianities non-existent battle against it's lunatic fringe... almost nobody has attempted to organize and stand-down the christian nut groupsnative wrote:
He's denounced from every corner of the country.
Name a Christian that stood up for him? You can't. None did so. That's ridiculous. "Progressives" were the only ones who actually stood up for this creep.
it's a curious situation, because we as a nation have been accusing Islam of not policing it's lunatic fringe
JoltinJoe wrote:Well, in this case, the Christians in this nation had the guy arrested, tried, convicted and are now sending him to jail. That's not good enough?Cleets Part 2 wrote:
I have been paying attention - and curious - about American Christianities non-existent battle against it's lunatic fringe... almost nobody has attempted to organize and stand-down the christian nut groups
it's a curious situation, because we as a nation have been accusing Islam of not policing it's lunatic fringe
Oh, Joe....poor, innocent, misguided Joe. THAT was the work of the liberal progressives. 
Uh, Z, why don't you and your butt buddy native find an example of a liberal progressive who supported this guy?AZGrizFan wrote:JoltinJoe wrote:
Well, in this case, the Christians in this nation had the guy arrested, tried, convicted and are now sending him to jail. That's not good enough?
I know you are just trying to flip this around to the moderate Muslim situation, but I can bet many Christians are more repulsed by this than anyone, for it is obvious that it gives Christians a bad name.Grizalltheway wrote:Where are all of the moderate Christians to denounce and/or stop him from doing this???
Because it's a lose lose situation.Cleets Part 2 wrote:I have been paying attention - and curious - about American Christianities non-existent battle against it's lunatic fringe... almost nobody has attempted to organize and stand-down the christian nut groupsnative wrote:
He's denounced from every corner of the country.
Name a Christian that stood up for him? You can't. None did so. That's ridiculous. "Progressives" were the only ones who actually stood up for this creep.
it's a curious situation, because we as a nation have been accusing Islam of not policing it's lunatic fringe
Prosecutors offices in West Texas are not populated by liberal progressives, who are more scarce than rain in that part of the country.Grizalltheway wrote:Uh, Z, why don't you and your butt buddy native find an example of a liberal progressive who supported this guy?AZGrizFan wrote:
Why don't YOU go back and read my statement, Myron.Grizalltheway wrote:Uh, Z, why don't you and your butt buddy native find an example of a liberal progressive who supported this guy?AZGrizFan wrote:
Joe, this looks good, but fails to address his point, which, again is the christian silence and failure to condemn and police their whackjobs.JoltinJoe wrote:Well, in this case, the Christians in this nation had the guy arrested, tried, convicted and are now sending him to jail. That's not good enough?Cleets Part 2 wrote:
I have been paying attention - and curious - about American Christianities non-existent battle against it's lunatic fringe... almost nobody has attempted to organize and stand-down the christian nut groups
it's a curious situation, because we as a nation have been accusing Islam of not policing it's lunatic fringe
Great. Now care to find an example of a liberal progressive supporting the guy?native wrote:Prosecutors offices in West Texas are not populated by liberal progressives, who are more scarce than rain in that part of the country.Grizalltheway wrote:
Uh, Z, why don't you and your butt buddy native find an example of a liberal progressive who supported this guy?
He!!, a good number of the social workers in West Texas are conservative Christians.
Disregard.AZGrizFan wrote:Why don't YOU go back and read my statement, Myron.Grizalltheway wrote:
Uh, Z, why don't you and your butt buddy native find an example of a liberal progressive who supported this guy?
Well, when people like Cheney & Hannit...oh wait...you were talking about Christians...my bad....I thought you were wondering why the Repiublican party can't seem to organize and stand down their lunatic fringe nut jobs....carry on....Cleets Part 2 wrote:I have been paying attention - and curious - about American Christianities non-existent battle against it's lunatic fringe... almost nobody has attempted to organize and stand-down the christian nut groupsnative wrote:
He's denounced from every corner of the country.
Name a Christian that stood up for him? You can't. None did so. That's ridiculous. "Progressives" were the only ones who actually stood up for this creep.
it's a curious situation, because we as a nation have been accusing Islam of not policing it's lunatic fringe
Is that what passes as a liberal apology?Grizalltheway wrote:Disregard.AZGrizFan wrote:
Why don't YOU go back and read my statement, Myron.
Who the flying fuck are you? This is between native and me.AZGrizFan wrote:Is that what passes as a liberal apology?Grizalltheway wrote:
Disregard.
I might be missing something here, but what would you propose Christians do that is legal and won't give themselves a bad name?D1B wrote:Joe, this looks good, but fails to address his point, which, again is the christian silence and failure to condemn and police their whackjobs.JoltinJoe wrote:
Well, in this case, the Christians in this nation had the guy arrested, tried, convicted and are now sending him to jail. That's not good enough?
Primarily, the people who arrested him were police officers, District Attorneys, etc. first. They were doing their jobs.
