Stop and frisk was targeting black folks...
These people are clearly white - so Ya lets have "due process" for them

Stop and frisk was targeting black folks...

I'm fine with them not being arrested or charged with anything - if there's not a law broken I don't want to bend something to try to charge them with something. But I want them drummed out of the Senate in disgrace if it's clear they knew information ahead of time and profited from it. Burr (living p to his name apparently) certainly did, and Feinstein and the Georgia senator likely did as well. They are a disgrace and should be held up as that, even absent a crime.Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:18 pm A number of years ago I read an article in the Wall Street Journal that posed the question on what is the fastest/surest way to become a millionaire, outside of wining the lottery, and the articles conclusion was to be elected into national office. Representatives hit that threshold a bit slower than Senators but in either House, it didn't take longer than a term or two on average and they were there.
As Gannon alluded to earlier, this isn't news, they have been doing this for many, many decades. I guess it finally took a pandemic to bring it to the top of peoples radar, but the rules are already set. You can bet your bottom dollar that nothing will come of this as unless they were sloppy, they stayed in the grey area of the laws they wrote for themselves to follow.

I agree and wish they would get drummed out on principle but they will not. Both sides cover for each other in areas like this, as both are profiting from it. A spotlight shown into one area would illuminate everybody.GannonFan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:40 amI'm fine with them not being arrested or charged with anything - if there's not a law broken I don't want to bend something to try to charge them with something. But I want them drummed out of the Senate in disgrace if it's clear they knew information ahead of time and profited from it. Burr (living p to his name apparently) certainly did, and Feinstein and the Georgia senator likely did as well. They are a disgrace and should be held up as that, even absent a crime.Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:18 pm A number of years ago I read an article in the Wall Street Journal that posed the question on what is the fastest/surest way to become a millionaire, outside of wining the lottery, and the articles conclusion was to be elected into national office. Representatives hit that threshold a bit slower than Senators but in either House, it didn't take longer than a term or two on average and they were there.
As Gannon alluded to earlier, this isn't news, they have been doing this for many, many decades. I guess it finally took a pandemic to bring it to the top of peoples radar, but the rules are already set. You can bet your bottom dollar that nothing will come of this as unless they were sloppy, they stayed in the grey area of the laws they wrote for themselves to follow.

Winterborn wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:39 amI agree and wish they would get drummed out on principle but they will not. Both sides cover for each other in areas like this, as both are profiting from it. A spotlight shown into one area would illuminate everybody.GannonFan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:40 am
I'm fine with them not being arrested or charged with anything - if there's not a law broken I don't want to bend something to try to charge them with something. But I want them drummed out of the Senate in disgrace if it's clear they knew information ahead of time and profited from it. Burr (living p to his name apparently) certainly did, and Feinstein and the Georgia senator likely did as well. They are a disgrace and should be held up as that, even absent a crime.![]()
There are "good" people in office just that they are very few and far between.
My thoughts on reform were pretty much on the wayside till the Trump fiasco started up and while I do not like the guy personally, he has shown a light on the cronyism that is going on just through him being his bumbling, inept self. Maybe reform can happen, but the public will have to want it and not become distracted by roadblocks "our" politicians will put up at every bend. It comes down to the people, and I have my doubts that enough people will care to see it through. The blame rests with those who keep voting people like Burr in, not the politicians themselves. They are the symptom of the disease, not the disease itself. As Thomas Jefferson stated: "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.", and a majority of people can't be bothered to pay attention or think of the long term consequences of certain actions. It is all about the "quick hit" and feeling good in the moment, not what the long term results will be.


Not sure if this was answered, but have you heard of the "Pelosi Provision"?mainejeff wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:43 amDo you have any proof?CitadelGrad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:12 pm So did Feinstein. That bitch has been doing it for years. So has Pelosi.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:45 am The fact you can type proves you're a liar, own it ass cancer
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Just like Hillary and the apparently-muzzled Joe Biden.

My negro!

They must not have considered religion, there's real money to made there, and it's tax-free. There is no scumbag like a scumbag preacher.Winterborn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:18 pm A number of years ago I read an article in the Wall Street Journal that posed the question on what is the fastest/surest way to become a millionaire, outside of wining the lottery, and the articles conclusion was to be elected into national office. Representatives hit that threshold a bit slower than Senators but in either House, it didn't take longer than a term or two on average and they were there.
As Gannon alluded to earlier, this isn't news, they have been doing this for many, many decades. I guess it finally took a pandemic to bring it to the top of peoples radar, but the rules are already set. You can bet your bottom dollar that nothing will come of this as unless they were sloppy, they stayed in the grey area of the laws they wrote for themselves to follow.



They weren't thinking. Unethical pricks. I hope the hammer comes down on Burr.Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:33 pm One of the first things they teach you in legal ethics is never to trade in a corporate client’s securities while you represent that client (and have access to material nonpublic information). Now extrapolate that basic principle to members of Congress. What were these azzholes thinking?

Maybe, maybe not. Could be that he just thought he could get away with it and his position would protect him.Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 6:09 amThey weren't thinking. Unethical pricks. I hope the hammer comes down on Burr.Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:33 pm One of the first things they teach you in legal ethics is never to trade in a corporate client’s securities while you represent that client (and have access to material nonpublic information). Now extrapolate that basic principle to members of Congress. What were these azzholes thinking?

I believe clinical psychiatrists call it "grandiose entitlement"Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:33 pm One of the first things they teach you in legal ethics is never to trade in a corporate client’s securities while you represent that client (and have access to material nonpublic information). Now extrapolate that basic principle to members of Congress. What were these azzholes thinking?

Is that what ethics have devolved to in the intellectual world now?Chizzang wrote:I believe clinical psychiatrists call it "grandiose entitlement"Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:33 pm One of the first things they teach you in legal ethics is never to trade in a corporate client’s securities while you represent that client (and have access to material nonpublic information). Now extrapolate that basic principle to members of Congress. What were these azzholes thinking?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... ntitlement

Winterborn wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:35 amMaybe, maybe not. Could be that he just thought he could get away with it and his position would protect him.
I mean everybody else is doing it (Congress) why not me.....
You better watch yourself. People have been suicided for less.CID1990 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 8:39 amIs that what ethics have devolved to in the intellectual world now?Chizzang wrote:
I believe clinical psychiatrists call it "grandiose entitlement"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... ntitlement
No wonder Hillary knew she could get away with avoiding oversight
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The problem with political positions isn't humanity (generally speaking)CID1990 wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 8:39 amIs that what ethics have devolved to in the intellectual world now?Chizzang wrote:
I believe clinical psychiatrists call it "grandiose entitlement"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... ntitlement
No wonder Hillary knew she could get away with avoiding oversight

jumbo shrimpIvytalk wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:33 pm One of the first things they teach you in legal ethics is never to trade in a corporate client’s securities while you represent that client (and have access to material nonpublic information). Now extrapolate that basic principle to members of Congress. What were these azzholes thinking?

Very funny, Carlinhoundawg wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:41 amjumbo shrimpIvytalk wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:33 pm One of the first things they teach you in legal ethics is never to trade in a corporate client’s securities while you represent that client (and have access to material nonpublic information). Now extrapolate that basic principle to members of Congress. What were these azzholes thinking?