Covid 19 and Religious Grifters

[GannonFan]

There is absolutely zero causal relationship between the religious right being his allies and his actions in the runup to the pandemic. Zip. Zero. Nada.

More clickbait bullshit from the batshit crazy left.

If you say so...lol That is why he is taking advice from the "MyPillow" guy.

One of these days you will look back and wonder "Why the Hell was I so blind to Trump"?

Part of the problem is too when folks like you who are so opposed to anything Trump confuse what's really the matter with the non-stop barrage of anything and everything that's wrong with Trump. It's always been the flaw of the Resistance as well - the lack of focus. Trump is a buffoon and an undisciplined narcissist, but the opposition to him has been so scatter-shot that in the end, he's actually made stronger by it. Are there religious nuts out there? Absolutely. Do some have the ear of the President? Absolutely. Does any of it have any impact on Trump's response to the Covid-19 pandemic we're currently in and our response to it? Possibly, but it's so miniscule versus other things that it doesn't matter. Stay focused on the things that matter - the messages from the medical experts coming forth, the readiness initially and the efforts now to ensure medical equipment of all kinds is manufactured and at the ready where needed, and how this country finds its way out of the disaster. That's what matters.

[89Hen]

If you say so...lol That is why he is taking advice from the "MyPillow" guy.

One of these days you will look back and wonder "Why the Hell was I so blind to Trump"?

Part of the problem is too when folks like you who are so opposed to anything Trump confuse what's really the matter with the non-stop barrage of anything and everything that's wrong with Trump. It's always been the flaw of the Resistance as well - the lack of focus. Trump is a buffoon and an undisciplined narcissist, but the opposition to him has been so scatter-shot that in the end, he's actually made stronger by it. Are there religious nuts out there? Absolutely. Do some have the ear of the President? Absolutely. Does any of it have any impact on Trump's response to the Covid-19 pandemic we're currently in and our response to it? Possibly, but it's so miniscule versus other things that it doesn't matter. Stay focused on the things that matter - the messages from the medical experts coming forth, the readiness initially and the efforts now to ensure medical equipment of all kinds is manufactured and at the ready where needed, and how this country finds its way out of the disaster. That's what matters.

Well said, but I'm afraid it falls on deaf ears.

[Gil Dobie]

The "My Pillow" guy retooled his factory and is making 50,000 N95 masks a day.

...and you?

AND those My Pillow guy N95 masks look exactly like a regular N95 mask but they are SO different!

They not inly protect you from the corona virus but also piles and tennis elbow, and they’ll do your grocery shopping for you!


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Hope the masks are better than the crappy over-priced pillows they make.

[Chizzang]

If you say so...lol That is why he is taking advice from the "MyPillow" guy.

One of these days you will look back and wonder "Why the Hell was I so blind to Trump"?

Part of the problem is too when folks like you who are so opposed to anything Trump confuse what's really the matter with the non-stop barrage of anything and everything that's wrong with Trump. It's always been the flaw of the Resistance as well - the lack of focus. Trump is a buffoon and an undisciplined narcissist, but the opposition to him has been so scatter-shot that in the end, he's actually made stronger by it. Are there religious nuts out there? Absolutely. Do some have the ear of the President? Absolutely. Does any of it have any impact on Trump's response to the Covid-19 pandemic we're currently in and our response to it? Possibly, but it's so miniscule versus other things that it doesn't matter. Stay focused on the things that matter - the messages from the medical experts coming forth, the readiness initially and the efforts now to ensure medical equipment of all kinds is manufactured and at the ready where needed, and how this country finds its way out of the disaster. That's what matters.

*Minuscule

[GannonFan]

Part of the problem is too when folks like you who are so opposed to anything Trump confuse what's really the matter with the non-stop barrage of anything and everything that's wrong with Trump. It's always been the flaw of the Resistance as well - the lack of focus. Trump is a buffoon and an undisciplined narcissist, but the opposition to him has been so scatter-shot that in the end, he's actually made stronger by it. Are there religious nuts out there? Absolutely. Do some have the ear of the President? Absolutely. Does any of it have any impact on Trump's response to the Covid-19 pandemic we're currently in and our response to it? Possibly, but it's so miniscule versus other things that it doesn't matter. Stay focused on the things that matter - the messages from the medical experts coming forth, the readiness initially and the efforts now to ensure medical equipment of all kinds is manufactured and at the ready where needed, and how this country finds its way out of the disaster. That's what matters.

*Minuscule

We should put in a request to change that word - my spelling is far more sensical - I mean, it has "mini" right in it my way. English is flexible, we should be able to do this.

[UNI88]

Part of the problem is too when folks like you who are so opposed to anything Trump confuse what's really the matter with the non-stop barrage of anything and everything that's wrong with Trump. It's always been the flaw of the Resistance as well - the lack of focus. Trump is a buffoon and an undisciplined narcissist, but the opposition to him has been so scatter-shot that in the end, he's actually made stronger by it. Are there religious nuts out there? Absolutely. Do some have the ear of the President? Absolutely. Does any of it have any impact on Trump's response to the Covid-19 pandemic we're currently in and our response to it? Possibly, but it's so miniscule versus other things that it doesn't matter. Stay focused on the things that matter - the messages from the medical experts coming forth, the readiness initially and the efforts now to ensure medical equipment of all kinds is manufactured and at the ready where needed, and how this country finds its way out of the disaster. That's what matters.

*Minuscule

What do you think of the actual message in Ganny's post?

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[Ivytalk]

*Minuscule

We should put in a request to change that word - my spelling is far more sensical - I mean, it has "mini" right in it my way. English is flexible, we should be able to do this.

Hopefully, yes.

$6.93 to the poster who finds a one-word adverb that means what people who incorrectly use “hopefully” intend it to mean.

[GannonFan]

We should put in a request to change that word - my spelling is far more sensical - I mean, it has "mini" right in it my way. English is flexible, we should be able to do this.

Hopefully, yes.

$6.93 to the poster who finds a one-word adverb that means what people who incorrectly use “hopefully” intend it to mean.

I'm always partial to sanguinely, but I tend to mispronounce it so I'd only use it in writing.

[SeattleGriz]

Jon, there are definitely some religious grifters here but there are also people that trust God to get them through this and think that he wants them to go on living. I don't agree with them and their belief could be dangerous in spreading the virus.

Very dangerous.

My view: God gave us a brain so we could create our own miracles (drugs, treatments, common sense).

Agreed. Choice. Actions brings consequences

[Chizzang]

*Minuscule

What do you think of the actual message in Ganny's post?

meh...
You could say the same about Hilary's detractors or any controversial public figure
The force against them is usually equal and opposite the force behind them - as the universe demands

But interesting to note:
Every time Ganny posts anything other than "Trump only cares about what people think of him..." he's contradicting himself

[mainejeff]

What do you think of the actual message in Ganny's post?

meh...
You could say the same about Hilary's detractors or any controversial public figure
The force against them is usually equal and opposite the force behind them - as the universe demands

But interesting to note:
Every time Ganny posts anything other than "Trump only cares about what people think of him..." he's contradicting himself

Somehow Ganny would spin Trump mowing someone down on 5th Avenue.

[kalm]

meh...
You could say the same about Hilary's detractors or any controversial public figure
The force against them is usually equal and opposite the force behind them - as the universe demands

But interesting to note:
Every time Ganny posts anything other than "Trump only cares about what people think of him..." he's contradicting himself

Somehow Ganny would spin Trump mowing someone down on 5th Avenue.

He'd see both sides of the issue.

[GannonFan]

What do you think of the actual message in Ganny's post?

meh...
You could say the same about Hilary's detractors or any controversial public figure
The force against them is usually equal and opposite the force behind them - as the universe demands

But interesting to note:
Every time Ganny posts anything other than "Trump only cares about what people think of him..." he's contradicting himself

Nonsense, you're missing the point (which, considering it's not related to broadband is not terribly surprising with you). Trump is a buffoon and a narcissist. That should be pretty simple to comprehend and to message. However, his biggest detractors can't stay on message - something to do for sure with the frothing at the mouth. As a result, they'll swing from one exasperation to another - in this thread dback is adamant that the evangelicals around Trump are guiding his every message and it's religious fervor that is killing us, when that's patent nonsense. And when it's clear that it's patent nonsense, the force of the criticism of Trump gets less and less. To put it simply, it's the boy who cried wolf. Trump isn't evil and malicious in everything he says or does or touches - he's just a bad leader. Stay on message, focus on that, and the effectiveness of the Resistance would be far better and much more likely to replace him. As it is, the hysterics from that camp have made him more entrenched, have led to a senile almost 80-year being the heir apparent leader of the Democratic party and not even a sure thing to beat Trump in November, and are likely to lead to even more exasperating hysterics as time goes on. Is that simple enough for you? Or should I just compare him to Comcast so you understand better?

[GannonFan]

meh...
You could say the same about Hilary's detractors or any controversial public figure
The force against them is usually equal and opposite the force behind them - as the universe demands

But interesting to note:
Every time Ganny posts anything other than "Trump only cares about what people think of him..." he's contradicting himself

Somehow Ganny would spin Trump mowing someone down on 5th Avenue.

How so?

[GannonFan]

Somehow Ganny would spin Trump mowing someone down on 5th Avenue.

He'd see both sides of the issue.

Well, you should always see both sides of the issue, not sure why you think we shouldn't. And then you move on from there. It's nuanced, so you may have to work a little bit at it, but I have faith that you can think your way through this. Hang in there.

[kalm]

He'd see both sides of the issue.

Well, you should always see both sides of the issue, not sure why you think we shouldn't. And then you move on from there. It's nuanced, so you may have to work a little bit at it, but I have faith that you can think your way through this. Hang in there.

Yes you should and I do. Every time. The joke was you have a tendency to defend both sides of many issues. It’s a shortcoming of rugged centrism. Most of the time it’s fine but sometimes (like in the example of Trump shooting someone on 5th Avenue presented here) not necessary.

Hope this helps.

[UNI88]

Well, you should always see both sides of the issue, not sure why you think we shouldn't. And then you move on from there. It's nuanced, so you may have to work a little bit at it, but I have faith that you can think your way through this. Hang in there.

Yes you should and I do. Every time. The joke was you have a tendency to defend both sides of many issues. It’s a shortcoming of rugged centrism. Most of the time it’s fine but sometimes (like in the example of Trump shooting someone on 5th Avenue presented here) not necessary.

Hope this helps.

Ganny is mowing down detractors on this thread like Trump would hypothetical bystanders on 5th Ave.

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[GannonFan]

Well, you should always see both sides of the issue, not sure why you think we shouldn't. And then you move on from there. It's nuanced, so you may have to work a little bit at it, but I have faith that you can think your way through this. Hang in there.

Yes you should and I do. Every time. The joke was you have a tendency to defend both sides of many issues. It’s a shortcoming of rugged centrism. Most of the time it’s fine but sometimes (like in the example of Trump shooting someone on 5th Avenue presented here) not necessary.

Hope this helps.

Nah, that's the myopic view of the committed partisans who want to pooh-pooh anything that falls short of fevered vitriol that they want directed at their opposite side on a 24/7 basis (or even more frequently if they can get around those pesky laws of physics). I don't defend both sides of many issues, that would be political paralysis. What I do do is defend a side on a particular issue and then, on another issue, defend whatever side makes the most sense on that issue regardless of which side I defended on the previous issue. It drives partisans insane, but I'd argue they were already that way before they took notice of my or other centrist's nuanced and rational approach to life.

[kalm]

Yes you should and I do. Every time. The joke was you have a tendency to defend both sides of many issues. It’s a shortcoming of rugged centrism. Most of the time it’s fine but sometimes (like in the example of Trump shooting someone on 5th Avenue presented here) not necessary.

Hope this helps.

Nah, that's the myopic view of the committed partisans who want to pooh-pooh anything that falls short of fevered vitriol that they want directed at their opposite side on a 24/7 basis (or even more frequently if they can get around those pesky laws of physics). I don't defend both sides of many issues, that would be political paralysis. What I do do is defend a side on a particular issue and then, on another issue, defend whatever side makes the most sense on that issue regardless of which side I defended on the previous issue. It drives partisans insane, but I'd argue they were already that way before they took notice of my or other centrist's nuanced and rational approach to life.

Contrarianism (which btw, I’m guilty of too) is fun sometimes but also can lead to a lack of reason. Relax, I was just taking a playful shot at you and ‘88. I appreciate your thoughts most of the time.

Someday you’ll realize the “center” is a myth. A moving target.

[kalm]

Yes you should and I do. Every time. The joke was you have a tendency to defend both sides of many issues. It’s a shortcoming of rugged centrism. Most of the time it’s fine but sometimes (like in the example of Trump shooting someone on 5th Avenue presented here) not necessary.

Hope this helps.

Ganny is mowing down detractors on this thread like Trump would hypothetical bystanders on 5th Ave.

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I have to admit....that’s was pretty good.

[GannonFan]

Nah, that's the myopic view of the committed partisans who want to pooh-pooh anything that falls short of fevered vitriol that they want directed at their opposite side on a 24/7 basis (or even more frequently if they can get around those pesky laws of physics). I don't defend both sides of many issues, that would be political paralysis. What I do do is defend a side on a particular issue and then, on another issue, defend whatever side makes the most sense on that issue regardless of which side I defended on the previous issue. It drives partisans insane, but I'd argue they were already that way before they took notice of my or other centrist's nuanced and rational approach to life.

Contrarianism (which btw, I’m guilty of too) is fun sometimes but also can lead to a lack of reason. Relax, I was just taking a playful shot at you and ‘88. I appreciate your thoughts most of the time.

Someday you’ll realize the “center” is a myth. A moving target.

The "center" is just what other people call it. And really, it's just the average of where I end up after aggregating all my different positions. But very few of my individual positions are "center". Sometimes I'm left and sometimes I'm right, but I like to think I'm mostly correct.

[kalm]

Contrarianism (which btw, I’m guilty of too) is fun sometimes but also can lead to a lack of reason. Relax, I was just taking a playful shot at you and ‘88. I appreciate your thoughts most of the time.

Someday you’ll realize the “center” is a myth. A moving target.

The "center" is just what other people call it. And really, it's just the average of where I end up after aggregating all my different positions. But very few of my individual positions are "center". Sometimes I'm left and sometimes I'm right, but I like to think I'm mostly correct.

My brotha.

[GannonFan]

The "center" is just what other people call it. And really, it's just the average of where I end up after aggregating all my different positions. But very few of my individual positions are "center". Sometimes I'm left and sometimes I'm right, but I like to think I'm mostly correct.

My brotha.

I know I'm wrong a lot though. That's the benefit of being married, you literally get a tally at the end of the day of all the times you were wrong. It's like Monday film session in the NFL and I'm the Bengals.

[kalm]

My brotha.

I know I'm wrong a lot though. That's the benefit of being married, you literally get a tally at the end of the day of all the times you were wrong. It's like Monday film session in the NFL and I'm the Bengals.

[89Hen]

The "center" is just what other people call it. And really, it's just the average of where I end up after aggregating all my different positions. But very few of my individual positions are "center". Sometimes I'm left and sometimes I'm right, but I like to think I'm mostly correct.

My brotha.

Except GF actually IS mostly correct.