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I wouldn't high-five them, but I would like to see my taxes go towards rehabilitation instead of crushing them.

So...no harm-no foul if they get help. You are now out on the streets with nothing, but at least the guy who stole everything from you and burned your house down is getting coddled.

Cool, so now two lives are now destroyed instead of one. One likely forever.

We've really accomplished a lot there for society.

[∞∞∞]

Don't give one sh*t about "love." Otherwise I wouldn't be on a conservative political forum.

Y'all should try it out somewhere that's not a safe space for your views. Maybe they'll threaten to murder you too.

No! Did that for few months and while being quite popular playing the troll. It was exhausting. Keep posting here with all your asinine stances. We at least keep it civil and can offer a cognitive rebuttal. You can't get that in an echo chamber.

You're a 47 year old, out of shape adult who likes to troll and is willing to kill. Super civil stuff there.

I'm 47, out of shape, and out of practice, but I'm a damn good shot. You are not alone, sir.

[Ibanez]

Oh help me Rhonda. Slavery is not legal. Those people broke the rules that our society put in place. They're being punished. You want to talk about reform, that's one thing. But to say a serial killer serving time is a slave is fucking stupid.

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation

Literally legal, and gives incentive for people be thrown into prison for free labor.

Yes, people who have broken our laws go to jail. And while we foot the bill to give them shelter, food, clothing, medical care, entertainment we force them to work to help cover the costs. And while they are doing so, they get a wage. Is it fair or equitable? I don't know. Does prison labor help state budgets? Yes. It's not slave labor like the African slaves. And frankly, someone that committed crimes and is being taken care by the state should work versus sitting idle.

[Ibanez]

No! Did that for few months and while being quite popular playing the troll. It was exhausting. Keep posting here with all your asinine stances. We at least keep it civil and can offer a cognitive rebuttal. You can't get that in an echo chamber.

You're a 47 year old, out of shape adult who likes to troll and is willing to kill. Super civil stuff there.

I'm 47, out of shape, and out of practice, but I'm a damn good shot. You are not alone, sir.

Oh shut the fuck up, Trip. Are you telling me that if the shit hit the fan and you had to defend yourself, that you wouldn't kill if you have to? Get out of here with that bullshit. That is what Bobby is saying.

[Ibanez]

This just in...
Trip, they are all paid for their labor. Do some research before you post.

Throwing someone a few cents on the dollar because the states require it is a comically sad way to justify slave labor.

We're not responsible for the sins of the past, but we are responsible for today. Laugh and tip toe around it all you want, but it's a complete injustice of both the Constitution and our criminal justice system. And when history books look back, these sins are on our current society.

It costs, on avg $35,000/yr to house a prisoner. We should give them a living wage when they have no bills to pay for? What's your solution?

[UNI88]

Trip getting no love today....

That's what happens, tripster, when you go full retard.

Funny how many people agree with "against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC", when you start spouting your commie bullshit.

Don't give one sh*t about "love." Otherwise I wouldn't be on a conservative political forum.

Y'all should try it out somewhere that's not a safe space for your views. Maybe they'll threaten to murder you too.

Which conservative political forum are you on? This forum isn't conservative. I am fiscally conservative and believe in personal freedom and responsibility but I'm mostly socially liberal. This site has its conservatives (89, BDK, Alphie, etc.), moderates (me, Ganny, Ibanez, etc.) and liberals (you, Jon, Geoffrey, Houndie, etc.). You think that anyone to the right of you is conservative. One of the great things about this board is the differences of opinion. It's not a couple of overlapping echo chambers where posters are screaming their opinions, calling the other side morons but not really listening to what they're saying. Kalm and I disagree on many things but I respect his opinion and read his and others' posts with an open mind. Can you say the same? A true liberal has an open mind.

I never threatened to murder you or anyone. I simply stated that I would take up arms in opposition (i.e. defense) to any attempt (i.e. attack) to establish a police state, eliminate the private sector or implement socialism. I will defend our system and our way of life, imperfect as it may be, because I strongly believe that it is significantly better than the alternative being offered. Self defense is not murder and any resulting deaths could have been avoided by simply not attacking. Responsibility for the deaths lies with the attacker. I honestly hope and don't think it will come to that in my lifetime. Think about it - you are willing to burn down the entire system to get what you want but want to pin responsibility for any violence that may result on the people who are defending what they hold dear.

[bobbythekidd]

No! Did that for few months and while being quite popular playing the troll. It was exhausting. Keep posting here with all your asinine stances. We at least keep it civil and can offer a cognitive rebuttal. You can't get that in an echo chamber.

I'm 47, out of shape, and out of practice, but I'm a damn good shot. You are not alone, sir.

So you're a 47 year old, out of shape adult who likes to troll and willing to kill. Super civil stuff there.

Yep. Willing to protect the country from all enemies. You see, I like it here. Doing something like that is what gave us the ability to not "show our papers" as we moved around, or get searched for being out of our house. They don't give those freedoms where you love.

I'll give you a bit of room with this being a slightly police state and agree wholeheartedly we are are militarizing our police against civilians. (see we can agree to disagree)

Timeline 2010. I had time on my hands. I was single. Still earning money but the economy was in the shitter and I was about to be unemployed. No one was hiring, it was just a matter of time before it all came crashing down.

Take a look in the mirror. You may not like what you see.

[grizzaholic]

Don't give one sh*t about "love." Otherwise I wouldn't be on a conservative political forum.

Y'all should try it out somewhere that's not a safe space for your views. Maybe they'll threaten to murder you too.

Which conservative political forum are you on? This forum isn't conservative. I am fiscally conservative and believe in personal freedom and responsibility but I'm mostly socially liberal. This site has its conservatives (89, BDK, Alphie, etc.), moderates (me, Ganny, Ibanez, etc.) and liberals (you, Jon, Geoffrey, Houndie, etc.). You think that anyone to the right of you is conservative. One of the great things about this board is the differences of opinion. It's not a couple of overlapping echo chambers where posters are screaming their opinions, calling the other side morons but not really listening to what they're saying. Kalm and I disagree on many things but I respect his opinion and read his and others' posts with an open mind. Can you say the same? A true liberal has an open mind.

I never threatened to murder you or anyone. I simply stated that I would take up arms in opposition (i.e. defense) to any attempt (i.e. attack) to establish a police state, eliminate the private sector or implement socialism. I will defend our system and our way of life, imperfect as it may be, because I strongly believe that it is significantly better than the alternative being offered. Self defense is not murder and any resulting deaths could have been avoided by simply not attacking. Responsibility for the deaths lies with the attacker. I honestly hope and don't think it will come to that in my lifetime. Think about it - you are willing to burn down the entire system to get what you want but want to pin responsibility for any violence that may result on the people who are defending what they hold dear.

It's Trips way or no way. I thought Houdie and Dback were bad, but reading his drivel....it's astounding.

[bobbythekidd]

That is what Bobby is saying.

It's BOB dammit!

[89Hen]

This site has its conservatives (89, BDK, Alphie, etc.)

I better take a break from posting.

[∞∞∞]

You're a 47 year old, out of shape adult who likes to troll and is willing to kill. Super civil stuff there.

Oh shut the fuck up, Trip. Are you telling me that if the shit hit the fan and you had to defend yourself, that you wouldn't kill if you have to? Get out of here with that bullshit. That is what Bobby is saying.

A society changing its laws or cultural thinking to be more "socialist" is not something you go kill people over just because you don't like it. I'm not sitting here threatening everyone because I disagree with your views or the dumb (sometimes wicked) policies y'all support.

What a bunch of snowflakes we have on this website.

[89Hen]

I never threatened to murder you or anyone.

I'm still trying to figure out where Trip came up with the "threat".

[UNI88]

This site has its conservatives (89, BDK, Alphie, etc.)

I better take a break from posting.

[89Hen]

Oh shut the fuck up, Trip. Are you telling me that if the shit hit the fan and you had to defend yourself, that you wouldn't kill if you have to? Get out of here with that bullshit. That is what Bobby is saying.

A society changing its laws or cultural thinking to be more "socialist" is not something you go kill people over just because you don't like it. I'm not sitting here threatening everyone because I disagree with your views or the dumb (sometimes wicked) policies y'all support.

What a bunch of snowflakes we have on this website.

Yet another liberal who doesn't understand the whole snowflake thing.

[∞∞∞]

A society changing its laws or cultural thinking to be more "socialist" is not something you go kill people over just because you don't like it. I'm not sitting here threatening everyone because I disagree with your views or the dumb (sometimes wicked) policies y'all support.

What a bunch of snowflakes we have on this website.

Yet another liberal who doesn't understand the whole snowflake thing.

I understand enough to know it's a term for conservatives projecting their insecurities.

[bobbythekidd]

A society changing its laws or cultural thinking to be more "socialist" is not something you go kill people over just because you don't like it.
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There is a process for this, It's called, "amendment". If used correctly, great!

If done by edict, it's better if you "shelter in place" and hope for the best. The rest of us will be by shortly to get your supplies.

[UNI88]

Oh shut the fuck up, Trip. Are you telling me that if the shit hit the fan and you had to defend yourself, that you wouldn't kill if you have to? Get out of here with that bullshit. That is what Bobby is saying.

A society changing its laws or cultural thinking to be more "socialist" is not something you go kill people over just because you don't like it. I'm not sitting here threatening everyone because I disagree with your views or the dumb (sometimes wicked) policies y'all support.

What a bunch of snowflakes we have on this website.

You're not advocating the the country to be just a little more "socialist."

Yes capitalism or in our case a mixed system that is heavily reliant on capitalism can have sometimes wicked policies but in the end the results are better than the truly wicked results of socialism. I think it's worth taking up arms to prevent adoption of a system that criticizes the incarceration of criminals but rationalizes a Cultural Revolution.

[∞∞∞]

There is a process for this, It's called, "amendment". If used correctly, great!

If done by edict, it's better if you "shelter in place" and hope for the best. The rest of us will be by shortly to get your supplies.

Except the amendment process is ridiculous in itself, but I've argued that many times before.

Bobby, you should probably know I do not believe in the US Constitution. And that's not me trolling either.

But that's a whole different can of worms and one, for our sanity, shouldn't be opened right now. We should probably get back to this coronavirus thing that the Trump administration didn't take seriously for the longest time and will now likely kill people we love.

[89Hen]

Yet another liberal who doesn't understand the whole snowflake thing.

I understand enough to know it's a term for conservatives projecting their insecurities.

I was right.

[bobbythekidd]

Bobby

How is this so hard for you people? It's Bob dammit!

[grizzaholic]

There is a process for this, It's called, "amendment". If used correctly, great!

If done by edict, it's better if you "shelter in place" and hope for the best. The rest of us will be by shortly to get your supplies.

Except the amendment process is ridiculous in itself, but I've argued that many times before.

Bobby, you should probably know I do not believe in the US Constitution. And that's not me trolling either.

If I was so disenfranchised (sp maybe not the correct word) to hate it here, move to a more WOKE country that aligns with your beliefs. It is not a difficult decision IMO.

[bobbythekidd]

you should probably know I do not believe in the US Constitution. And that's not me trolling either.

But that's a whole different can of worms and one, for our sanity, shouldn't be opened right now. We should probably get back to this coronavirus thing that the Trump administration didn't take seriously for the longest time and will now likely kill people we love.

Indeed.That is another topic for another day. But yes please do at another time.

[dbackjon]

I want to add that the US is very much a socialist state for large sectors of the economy and rich Americans. If anything, we have one of the most egregious examples of socialism ever implemented in that it takes from the middle and lower classes and funnels money upwards.

You're getting a look at a Bernie Sanders presidency right now. Empty grocery stores, rampant unemployment....

Still a fan?

Except it is a TRUMP Presidency that is causing all this shit show.

[Gil Dobie]

There is a process for this, It's called, "amendment". If used correctly, great!

If done by edict, it's better if you "shelter in place" and hope for the best. The rest of us will be by shortly to get your supplies.

Except the amendment process is ridiculous in itself, but I've argued that many times before.

Bobby, you should probably know I do not believe in the US Constitution. And that's not me trolling either.

But that's a whole different can of worms and one, for our sanity, shouldn't be opened right now. We should probably get back to this coronavirus thing that the Trump administration didn't take seriously for the longest time and will now likely kill people we love.

If you don't believe in the US Constitution, why do you live here. So many better places in Europe, universal healthcare, free college, awesome vacation time, etc.

[UNI88]

You're getting a look at a Bernie Sanders presidency right now. Empty grocery stores, rampant unemployment....

Still a fan?

Except it is a TRUMP Presidency that is causing all this shit show.

I think AZ's message is that this is occurring as a result of pandemic during Trump's Presidency but it will be the normal state of affairs if Bernie achieves his dreams.