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Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:14 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:01 am

Ok fine. Trip is an extremist as were Bolton, Cheney, Reagan, Friedman, Lenny Bruce, FDR, Lincoln, Jefferson, and Jesus.

You got me! :lol:
The wanted to get rid of the constitution?
That’s not the only defining factor for extremism. I don’t agree with getting rid of it either, but that doesn’t make me terrified of Trips opinions.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:33 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:14 am

The wanted to get rid of the constitution?
That’s not the only defining factor for extremism. I don’t agree with getting rid of it either, but that doesn’t make me terrified of Trips opinions.
Plus...Jesus preceded the constitution, silly.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:01 am
89Hen wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:32 am

Says the guy that declared Trip is not an extremist. Here's your final chance to speak up on that.
Ok fine. Trip is an extremist as were Bolton, Cheney, Reagan, Friedman, Lenny Bruce, FDR, Lincoln, Jefferson, and Jesus.

You got me! :lol:
So now he's a hero to you. Check.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:33 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:14 am

The wanted to get rid of the constitution?
That’s not the only defining factor for extremism. I don’t agree with getting rid of it either, but that doesn’t make me terrified of Trips opinions.
Who is "terrified"? Or is this another fake threat? :lol:
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89Hen wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:40 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:01 am

Ok fine. Trip is an extremist as were Bolton, Cheney, Reagan, Friedman, Lenny Bruce, FDR, Lincoln, Jefferson, and Jesus.

You got me! :lol:
So now he's a hero to you. Check.
I think he was probably a righteous dude. :nod:
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89Hen wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:41 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:33 am

That’s not the only defining factor for extremism. I don’t agree with getting rid of it either, but that doesn’t make me terrified of Trips opinions.
Who is "terrified"? Or is this another fake threat? :lol:
For reference:

Go read the last 4 pages.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:43 am
89Hen wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:41 am

Who is "terrified"? Or is this another fake threat? :lol:
For reference:

Go read the last 4 pages.
Please point out the "terror".
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Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:14 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:01 am

Ok fine. Trip is an extremist as were Bolton, Cheney, Reagan, Friedman, Lenny Bruce, FDR, Lincoln, Jefferson, and Jesus.

You got me! :lol:
The wanted to get rid of the constitution?
Being randomly born in a place and being forced to agree with an idea (Constitution) is not exactly an enlightenment stance. Someone disagreeing with the Constitution doesn't mean they hate America. In fact, the Constitution is not America; the people are America. If I hate the people around me, then I fall into the trap of hating America.

The Constitution is imagined reality; humans are flesh and blood. I interact with my neighbor; I don't interact with ideas.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:52 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:14 am

The wanted to get rid of the constitution?
Being randomly born in a place and being forced to agree with an idea (Constitution) is not exactly an enlightenment stance. Someone disagreeing with the Constitution doesn't mean they hate America. In fact, the Constitution is not America; the people are America. If I hate the people around me, then I fall into the trap of hating America.

The Constitution is just an inanimate piece of our imagined reality; humans are flesh and blood.
You couldn’t be more wrong. People are people. The United States of America is an IDEA. An idea outlined and framed in the words of the Constitution. An idea that, although it’s framework has morphed somewhat and changed through the years, is still defined by said framework.

You’d like to burn that framework to the ground and start over.

I suggest you go do that someplace where they’re ripe for ideas like yours.....like Somalia...or Yemen....or Sudan....or Palestine.

Those kind of places could really use your kind of enlightenment....because there, if you disagree with the governing process, you end up face down in a ditch with a bullet in the back of your skull.

Go sow your knowledge, all the expertise you’ve gained in your 30 years on this planet, to those places most in need.

America ain’t it.
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No thanks; I like the people here. They're the Americans I love, and the US is the idea which needs to be improved.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:33 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:14 am
The wanted to get rid of the constitution?
That’s not the only defining factor for extremism. I don’t agree with getting rid of it either, but that doesn’t make me terrified of Trips opinions.
I'm not terrified of Trip's opinions. I respect the fact that he wants to make the country better. I completely and utterly disagree with his opinion of better and what he's willing to do to get there. I also find it hypocritical that he wants to make changes that he knows will incite violence and then blame the violence on those that are defending something they hold dear.

The changes he is advocating for are not improvements to our way of life they are changes to the very fabric of American culture. If he believes our country is that flawed that it can't be improved without risking destroying it and there are other countries that are much closer to his ideal then yes, he should move to one of those countries. Otherwise he is being selfish and will share in the responsibility for any violence that does occur.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:00 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:52 am
Being randomly born in a place and being forced to agree with an idea (Constitution) is not exactly an enlightenment stance. Someone disagreeing with the Constitution doesn't mean they hate America. In fact, the Constitution is not America; the people are America. If I hate the people around me, then I fall into the trap of hating America.

The Constitution is just an inanimate piece of our imagined reality; humans are flesh and blood.
You couldn’t be more wrong. People are people. The United States of America is an IDEA. An idea outlined and framed in the words of the Constitution. An idea that, although it’s framework has morphed somewhat and changed through the years, is still defined by said framework.

You’d like to burn that framework to the ground and start over.

I suggest you go do that someplace where they’re ripe for ideas like yours.....like Somalia...or Yemen....or Sudan....or Palestine.

Those kind of places could really use your kind of enlightenment....because there, if you disagree with the governing process, you end up face down in a ditch with a bullet in the back of your skull.

Go sow your knowledge, all the expertise you’ve gained in your 30 years on this planet, to those places most in need.

America ain’t it.
Absolutely nailed it with the bolded part!
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:43 am
CID1990 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:35 am

It’s just the flu, fellas

No worries

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Truth be told, that is the truth that needs to be told over and over on this. It's a shame that people have such an aversion to all things Trump that they'll even turn away from the truth on the rare occasions that Trump utters a truth - but China needs to continue to be spotlighted for first allowing this virus to take hold in their own country, and then to be as irresponsible as they were to allow it to escalate into the pandemic that it did. Once it went global thousands were going to die no matter what other countries did, and until we get a vaccine, plenty more will die as well. It didn't have to be like this but that's what you get with the state of where China is at this moment. Anyone carrying their water right now should be called out for it.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:08 am No thanks; I like the people here. They're the Americans I love, and the US is the idea which needs to be improved.
You live in the bubble that is DC. What do you really know about the people of America?
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93henfan wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:29 am
89Hen wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:25 am

Just check out all the comments by De Blasio in the early stages.
Yep. For some reason the MSM chooses not to focus on all of his "New Yorkers, please continue to go about your business" comments. Their bias is astounding.
Came from the NYC Health Dept as well.

But Trumps fault though.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:55 pm
But go ahead and keep Monday morning quarterbacking. And it will work out and have a good ending. We’ll get therapeutics, then a vaccine, and the disease will be defeated.
That's all the Left has at this point. They don't have any of their own plans to point to, or actions they would have taken to mitigate. Just look at how the lambasted Trump when he announced travel restrictions from China and Europe. The Left is a complete joke. :coffee:
Oh bullshit.

The Trumptards are the ones that are a complete joke. You can't even grasp what the complaint about the travel restrictions were - Trump only restricted Chinese nationals on Direct flights.

He didn't restrict Americans coming back (which is how it got to Washington State). He didn't restrict Chinese coming via another country. It was a worthless travel ban.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:35 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:33 am

That’s not the only defining factor for extremism. I don’t agree with getting rid of it either, but that doesn’t make me terrified of Trips opinions.
Plus...Jesus preceded the constitution, silly.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:35 am Trip is a threat to this country bigger than the Coronavirus

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:27 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:08 am No thanks; I like the people here. They're the Americans I love, and the US is the idea which needs to be improved.
You live in the bubble that is DC. What do you really know about the people of America?
Enough to know that we have way too many cultural and political differences and we shouldn't be sharing a federal government.
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dbackjon wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:29 am
SDHornet wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm

That's all the Left has at this point. They don't have any of their own plans to point to, or actions they would have taken to mitigate. Just look at how the lambasted Trump when he announced travel restrictions from China and Europe. The Left is a complete joke. :coffee:
Oh bullshit.

The Trumptards are the ones that are a complete joke. You can't even grasp what the complaint about the travel restrictions were - Trump only restricted Chinese nationals on Direct flights.

He didn't restrict Americans coming back (which is how it got to Washington State). He didn't restrict Chinese coming via another country. It was a worthless travel ban.
Yet it was called “racist” and “draconian” by the left. Go figure....
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:24 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:00 am

You couldn’t be more wrong. People are people. The United States of America is an IDEA. An idea outlined and framed in the words of the Constitution. An idea that, although it’s framework has morphed somewhat and changed through the years, is still defined by said framework.

You’d like to burn that framework to the ground and start over.

I suggest you go do that someplace where they’re ripe for ideas like yours.....like Somalia...or Yemen....or Sudan....or Palestine.

Those kind of places could really use your kind of enlightenment....because there, if you disagree with the governing process, you end up face down in a ditch with a bullet in the back of your skull.

Go sow your knowledge, all the expertise you’ve gained in your 30 years on this planet, to those places most in need.

America ain’t it.
Absolutely nailed it with the bolded part!
Close.

I think you’re both confusing “founded on idea” with the beneficiaries of the idea.
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dbackjon wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:29 am
SDHornet wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm

That's all the Left has at this point. They don't have any of their own plans to point to, or actions they would have taken to mitigate. Just look at how the lambasted Trump when he announced travel restrictions from China and Europe. The Left is a complete joke. :coffee:
Oh bullshit.

The Trumptards are the ones that are a complete joke. You can't even grasp what the complaint about the travel restrictions were - Trump only restricted Chinese nationals on Direct flights.

He didn't restrict Americans coming back (which is how it got to Washington State). He didn't restrict Chinese coming via another country. It was a worthless travel ban.
Oh I can only imagine the uproar from the Leftards if he did a wholesale border closure across the board. There would have been mass skyscreaming in effect. :rofl:
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:33 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:24 am

Absolutely nailed it with the bolded part!
Close.

I think you’re both confusing “founded on idea” with the beneficiaries of the idea.
WE are the beneficiaries of the idea.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:00 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:52 am
Being randomly born in a place and being forced to agree with an idea (Constitution) is not exactly an enlightenment stance. Someone disagreeing with the Constitution doesn't mean they hate America. In fact, the Constitution is not America; the people are America. If I hate the people around me, then I fall into the trap of hating America.

The Constitution is just an inanimate piece of our imagined reality; humans are flesh and blood.
You couldn’t be more wrong. People are people. The United States of America is an IDEA. An idea outlined and framed in the words of the Constitution. An idea that, although it’s framework has morphed somewhat and changed through the years, is still defined by said framework.

You’d like to burn that framework to the ground and start over.

I suggest you go do that someplace where they’re ripe for ideas like yours.....like Somalia...or Yemen....or Sudan....or Palestine.

Those kind of places could really use your kind of enlightenment....because there, if you disagree with the governing process, you end up face down in a ditch with a bullet in the back of your skull.

Go sow your knowledge, all the expertise you’ve gained in your 30 years on this planet, to those places most in need.

America ain’t it.
Interesting that you just listed 4 conk countries.... :coffee:
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∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:08 am No thanks; I like the people here. They're the Americans I love, and the US is the idea which needs to be improved.
And again, your version of “improved” is to fix a cracked windshield with a sledgehammer. In your perfect world, if you could redesign the way the country operated, what aspects of America do you love, and would you keep and what aspects would you do away with? Every time someone posts what they have gleaned from your rantings you usually respond with “that’s not what I want at all”....

Well, what IS it that you want, then? And be specific. :coffee:
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