That’s not the only defining factor for extremism. I don’t agree with getting rid of it either, but that doesn’t make me terrified of Trips opinions.
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Plus...Jesus preceded the constitution, silly.
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So now he's a hero to you. Check.

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I think he was probably a righteous dude.

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For reference:
Go read the last 4 pages.
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Being randomly born in a place and being forced to agree with an idea (Constitution) is not exactly an enlightenment stance. Someone disagreeing with the Constitution doesn't mean they hate America. In fact, the Constitution is not America; the people are America. If I hate the people around me, then I fall into the trap of hating America.
The Constitution is imagined reality; humans are flesh and blood. I interact with my neighbor; I don't interact with ideas.
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You couldn’t be more wrong. People are people. The United States of America is an IDEA. An idea outlined and framed in the words of the Constitution. An idea that, although it’s framework has morphed somewhat and changed through the years, is still defined by said framework.∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:52 amBeing randomly born in a place and being forced to agree with an idea (Constitution) is not exactly an enlightenment stance. Someone disagreeing with the Constitution doesn't mean they hate America. In fact, the Constitution is not America; the people are America. If I hate the people around me, then I fall into the trap of hating America.
The Constitution is just an inanimate piece of our imagined reality; humans are flesh and blood.
You’d like to burn that framework to the ground and start over.
I suggest you go do that someplace where they’re ripe for ideas like yours.....like Somalia...or Yemen....or Sudan....or Palestine.
Those kind of places could really use your kind of enlightenment....because there, if you disagree with the governing process, you end up face down in a ditch with a bullet in the back of your skull.
Go sow your knowledge, all the expertise you’ve gained in your 30 years on this planet, to those places most in need.
America ain’t it.
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No thanks; I like the people here. They're the Americans I love, and the US is the idea which needs to be improved.
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I'm not terrified of Trip's opinions. I respect the fact that he wants to make the country better. I completely and utterly disagree with his opinion of better and what he's willing to do to get there. I also find it hypocritical that he wants to make changes that he knows will incite violence and then blame the violence on those that are defending something they hold dear.
The changes he is advocating for are not improvements to our way of life they are changes to the very fabric of American culture. If he believes our country is that flawed that it can't be improved without risking destroying it and there are other countries that are much closer to his ideal then yes, he should move to one of those countries. Otherwise he is being selfish and will share in the responsibility for any violence that does occur.
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Absolutely nailed it with the bolded part!AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:00 amYou couldn’t be more wrong. People are people. The United States of America is an IDEA. An idea outlined and framed in the words of the Constitution. An idea that, although it’s framework has morphed somewhat and changed through the years, is still defined by said framework.∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:52 am
Being randomly born in a place and being forced to agree with an idea (Constitution) is not exactly an enlightenment stance. Someone disagreeing with the Constitution doesn't mean they hate America. In fact, the Constitution is not America; the people are America. If I hate the people around me, then I fall into the trap of hating America.
The Constitution is just an inanimate piece of our imagined reality; humans are flesh and blood.
You’d like to burn that framework to the ground and start over.
I suggest you go do that someplace where they’re ripe for ideas like yours.....like Somalia...or Yemen....or Sudan....or Palestine.
Those kind of places could really use your kind of enlightenment....because there, if you disagree with the governing process, you end up face down in a ditch with a bullet in the back of your skull.
Go sow your knowledge, all the expertise you’ve gained in your 30 years on this planet, to those places most in need.
America ain’t it.
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GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:43 amTruth be told, that is the truth that needs to be told over and over on this. It's a shame that people have such an aversion to all things Trump that they'll even turn away from the truth on the rare occasions that Trump utters a truth - but China needs to continue to be spotlighted for first allowing this virus to take hold in their own country, and then to be as irresponsible as they were to allow it to escalate into the pandemic that it did. Once it went global thousands were going to die no matter what other countries did, and until we get a vaccine, plenty more will die as well. It didn't have to be like this but that's what you get with the state of where China is at this moment. Anyone carrying their water right now should be called out for it.

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You live in the bubble that is DC. What do you really know about the people of America?
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Oh bullshit.SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pmThat's all the Left has at this point. They don't have any of their own plans to point to, or actions they would have taken to mitigate. Just look at how the lambasted Trump when he announced travel restrictions from China and Europe. The Left is a complete joke.![]()
The Trumptards are the ones that are a complete joke. You can't even grasp what the complaint about the travel restrictions were - Trump only restricted Chinese nationals on Direct flights.
He didn't restrict Americans coming back (which is how it got to Washington State). He didn't restrict Chinese coming via another country. It was a worthless travel ban.

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No, that is Trump and anyone that still supports him.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:35 am Trip is a threat to this country bigger than the Coronavirus
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Enough to know that we have way too many cultural and political differences and we shouldn't be sharing a federal government.
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Yet it was called “racist” and “draconian” by the left. Go figure....dbackjon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:29 amOh bullshit.SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm
That's all the Left has at this point. They don't have any of their own plans to point to, or actions they would have taken to mitigate. Just look at how the lambasted Trump when he announced travel restrictions from China and Europe. The Left is a complete joke.![]()
The Trumptards are the ones that are a complete joke. You can't even grasp what the complaint about the travel restrictions were - Trump only restricted Chinese nationals on Direct flights.
He didn't restrict Americans coming back (which is how it got to Washington State). He didn't restrict Chinese coming via another country. It was a worthless travel ban.
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Close.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:24 amAbsolutely nailed it with the bolded part!AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:00 am
You couldn’t be more wrong. People are people. The United States of America is an IDEA. An idea outlined and framed in the words of the Constitution. An idea that, although it’s framework has morphed somewhat and changed through the years, is still defined by said framework.
You’d like to burn that framework to the ground and start over.
I suggest you go do that someplace where they’re ripe for ideas like yours.....like Somalia...or Yemen....or Sudan....or Palestine.
Those kind of places could really use your kind of enlightenment....because there, if you disagree with the governing process, you end up face down in a ditch with a bullet in the back of your skull.
Go sow your knowledge, all the expertise you’ve gained in your 30 years on this planet, to those places most in need.
America ain’t it.
I think you’re both confusing “founded on idea” with the beneficiaries of the idea.
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Oh I can only imagine the uproar from the Leftards if he did a wholesale border closure across the board. There would have been mass skyscreaming in effect.dbackjon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:29 amOh bullshit.SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm
That's all the Left has at this point. They don't have any of their own plans to point to, or actions they would have taken to mitigate. Just look at how the lambasted Trump when he announced travel restrictions from China and Europe. The Left is a complete joke.![]()
The Trumptards are the ones that are a complete joke. You can't even grasp what the complaint about the travel restrictions were - Trump only restricted Chinese nationals on Direct flights.
He didn't restrict Americans coming back (which is how it got to Washington State). He didn't restrict Chinese coming via another country. It was a worthless travel ban.

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WE are the beneficiaries of the idea.
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Interesting that you just listed 4 conk countries....AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:00 amYou couldn’t be more wrong. People are people. The United States of America is an IDEA. An idea outlined and framed in the words of the Constitution. An idea that, although it’s framework has morphed somewhat and changed through the years, is still defined by said framework.∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:52 am
Being randomly born in a place and being forced to agree with an idea (Constitution) is not exactly an enlightenment stance. Someone disagreeing with the Constitution doesn't mean they hate America. In fact, the Constitution is not America; the people are America. If I hate the people around me, then I fall into the trap of hating America.
The Constitution is just an inanimate piece of our imagined reality; humans are flesh and blood.
You’d like to burn that framework to the ground and start over.
I suggest you go do that someplace where they’re ripe for ideas like yours.....like Somalia...or Yemen....or Sudan....or Palestine.
Those kind of places could really use your kind of enlightenment....because there, if you disagree with the governing process, you end up face down in a ditch with a bullet in the back of your skull.
Go sow your knowledge, all the expertise you’ve gained in your 30 years on this planet, to those places most in need.
America ain’t it.

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And again, your version of “improved” is to fix a cracked windshield with a sledgehammer. In your perfect world, if you could redesign the way the country operated, what aspects of America do you love, and would you keep and what aspects would you do away with? Every time someone posts what they have gleaned from your rantings you usually respond with “that’s not what I want at all”....
Well, what IS it that you want, then? And be specific.

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