Counter-urbanization

[Chizzang]

I thought I did a nice job there...
it was clearly a love tap on your part and I fully enjoyed the opportunity to retort my drivel



and BTW I'm still waiting for anybody on this political board
to seriously defend the idea that this entire thing isn't Left & Right rhetoric
with pretend centrist playing the logical discourse card over and over again

Are you telling me that the honeymoon ended before you two even got a room and consummated the relationship? What a letdown!

It's not that this entire thing isn't Left & Right rhetoric (although I am hurt that you think I'm a pretend centrist), it's that while your outlook and posts were typically liberal you could be relied upon to take an occasional shot at the hypocrisy of left as well. Those shots have disappeared and your cynicism and disdain appears to be aimed solely at the right.

Obama was not the end of the republic that Conks thought he would be and Trump won't be the end of the republic that Donks think he will be. Despite Jon and Trip's protestations to the contrary, we will survive this and hopefully be better for it.

I miss the old Cleets who wasn't so bitter and didn't take sh!t so seriously.

we're all trying to "make our points"
and I'll swing back to the right when we start talking about guns or federal tax revenue or privatizing the TSA
there are a dozen or so areas where I'm solid Conservative

That said, this is a political rhetoric site... (The end)
I took enough college debate classes and philosophy to recognize it when I'm standing in it

[houndawg]

There are road projects in Texas (as I am sure you are aware of) that have been going on for decades. My brother was telling me about one section of overpass in I believe it was Dallas, that was tore down before it ever was driven on due to plans changing.

And dback can correct me if I'm wrong, but I distinctly remember the road crews in AZ working 3 shifts, 24 hrs a day, mostly (as it was explained to me) because of the cost of the heavy equipment and that it was too expensive to have sitting idle.

Here in TX, they work ONE shift. 8-5. So all roads being worked on are shut down during peak traffic hours. Brilliant.

States that aren't as backwards as texas do highway work at night when its coooler and there is less traffic

[kalm]

Are you telling me that the honeymoon ended before you two even got a room and consummated the relationship? What a letdown!

It's not that this entire thing isn't Left & Right rhetoric (although I am hurt that you think I'm a pretend centrist), it's that while your outlook and posts were typically liberal you could be relied upon to take an occasional shot at the hypocrisy of left as well. Those shots have disappeared and your cynicism and disdain appears to be aimed solely at the right.

Obama was not the end of the republic that Conks thought he would be and Trump won't be the end of the republic that Donks think he will be. Despite Jon and Trip's protestations to the contrary, we will survive this and hopefully be better for it.

I miss the old Cleets who wasn't so bitter and didn't take sh!t so seriously.

we're all trying to "make our points"
and I'll swing back to the right when we start talking about guns or federal tax revenue or privatizing the TSA
there are a dozen or so areas where I'm solid Conservative

That said, this is a political rhetoric site... (The end)
I took enough college debate classes and philosophy to recognize it when I'm standing in it

I took down your argument in another thread.

But otherwise, I want you to know... I still think you're the bee's knees.

[kalm]

I thought I did a nice job there...
it was clearly a love tap on your part and I fully enjoyed the opportunity to retort my drivel



and BTW I'm still waiting for anybody on this political board
to seriously defend the idea that this entire thing isn't Left & Right rhetoric
with pretend centrist playing the logical discourse card over and over again

Are you telling me that the honeymoon ended before you two even got a room and consummated the relationship? What a letdown!

It's not that this entire thing isn't Left & Right rhetoric (although I am hurt that you think I'm a pretend centrist), it's that while your outlook and posts were typically liberal you could be relied upon to take an occasional shot at the hypocrisy of left as well. Those shots have disappeared and your cynicism and disdain appears to be aimed solely at the right.

Obama was not the end of the republic that Conks thought he would be and Trump won't be the end of the republic that Donks think he will be. Despite Jon and Trip's protestations to the contrary, we will survive this and hopefully be better for it.

I miss the old Cleets who wasn't so bitter and didn't take sh!t so seriously.

The politics during a time of true crisis is interesting. It’s a time when limited government, states rights, and objectivism take a beating both on a local and federal level. This has a chance to be the perfect storm for the Republican Party as their leadership flaws are getting exposed. Trump is not helping in that regard.

And yes I’m fully aware of the threats inherent in that so calm the fuck down, ‘88, CID, and Ivy.

[Ivytalk]

Are you telling me that the honeymoon ended before you two even got a room and consummated the relationship? What a letdown!

It's not that this entire thing isn't Left & Right rhetoric (although I am hurt that you think I'm a pretend centrist), it's that while your outlook and posts were typically liberal you could be relied upon to take an occasional shot at the hypocrisy of left as well. Those shots have disappeared and your cynicism and disdain appears to be aimed solely at the right.

Obama was not the end of the republic that Conks thought he would be and Trump won't be the end of the republic that Donks think he will be. Despite Jon and Trip's protestations to the contrary, we will survive this and hopefully be better for it.

I miss the old Cleets who wasn't so bitter and didn't take sh!t so seriously.

The politics during a time of true crisis is interesting. It’s a time when limited government, states rights, and objectivism take a beating both on a local and federal level. This has a chance to be the perfect storm for the Republican Party as their leadership flaws are getting exposed. Trump is not helping in that regard.

And yes I’m fully aware of the threats inherent in that so calm the fuck down, ‘88, CID, and Ivy.

I’m probably the calmest person in the room right now.

But not the kalmest.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Gross

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[UNI88]

What is more of a "wasteland?"
- wide open hills, fields or desert
- blighted urban neighborhoods
- miles of tract housing and strip malls you find in suburbia

Poll question ... hmmm ...