Coronavirus COVID-19

[GannonFan]

Restaurants - They're already cooking and packaging food to go. Just seat every other table or remove every other table; servers wear masks and gloves, sanitize between sittings, remove condiments and provide prepackaged condiments on request.

Movie theatres - keep one/two seats empty between groups living in same household. Servers wear masks & gloves. Sell only prepackaged foods and sodas at the food counter

Car lots - sanitize vehicles after test drives. social distance during sales pitch. plastic guards at customer-facing desks; keep doors open so they don't have to be touched.

Athletics Events - go without spectators if they need to....or social distance like movie theatres with designated empty seats. Test players & coaches prior to events

Golf Courses - require everyone to have their own cart (unless already living in same house); no cart girl service

Fishing, hunting, hiking, camping, boating, etc. - get back to normal; these should be no brainers

Hospitals - Get back to elective surgeries & get doctors & nurses back to work. Test patients prior to hospital entry

Schools - Split shifts (7-12; 12:30-5:30) with half-sized classes to social distance. We did this in 3rd/4th/5th grade in Florence, MT due to class size overload. It ain't perfect but it would allow social distancing inside the classroom. Test kids prior to entry at the school. Hand sanitizer, gloves, masks, etc.

Grocery stores - keep doing what they're doing, it's working

If you work in an office environment and have your own office, you should be perfectly fine at work. Hell, even if you work in a cube farm you're still at least six-eight feet from the nearest person. Hand sanitizer, gloves, masks, minimize meeting sizes, take advantage of electronic forms of communication, etc....

Send home people who develop symptoms, have depressed immune systems or other high risk factors and let's get the fuck on with living.

This shit ain't rocket science.

AZ's right here - these are going to be the parameters going forward, no reason to wait 7 more weeks (in addition to the 4 weeks we've already had in shutdown) to put these out. Start letting businesses get ready for this now - things like plexiglass are in short supply right now as businesses currently open are sucking up those inventories. It'll take weeks for these places to ramp back up, get all these protections in place, and be ready to do business. If we wait another 7 weeks to wave the green flag, it'll be even weeks after that before things really get moving. Get the guidelines out, let these businesses start setting up shop and get things ready, and we go from there. Let's get to the new normal as soon as we can - where we are right now is just a holding pattern.

[BDKJMU]

I am a conservative. But this is yet another example of things that have happened in recent years such that the general reaction of people identifying as conservatives makes conservatism look ignorant. There's a conspiracy to exaggerate deaths. It's not really a big deal. It's a conspiracy to get Trump. It's not as bad as the seasonal flu. On and on.

At this point I'd have to say that there's a reason why Republicans have been losing by significant margins among more educated people and why the gap has been increasing.

And yes I know that early on I thought it was not going to be as bad as the seasonal flu. But there was a point at which it was time to change that belief based on the reality indicated by the data coming in. And by "data" i include looking at data on responses of various jurisdictions. In many cases there was resistance to reacting early on but eventually leadership had to change its position. Stuff like the Russians shutting Moscow down. Like that would happen if this was much ado about nothing.

Also knowing that when CDC does its final estimate on the death toll so that we have an "apples to apples" comparison on how the death toll compares to the seasonal flu the estimate is going to indicate a higher number than the count numbers we are seeing now. Probably substantially higher.

This is not like the seasonal flu.

I am a black, Hispanic, Asian, Jewish, lesbian female..

[BDKJMU]

I posted here at the time that I think that when the Trump Administration used that 100,000 to 200,000 deaths projection they were aiming high so they could come back later and say what a great job they did. The University of Washington Model did not predict that. I know that people have criticized it for its predictions on hospital beds. When I've seen that they have not been looking at the uncertainty intervals, which means the assessments haven't been fair. But haven't really looked into that question yet.

What I have been looking at is deaths projections. When the Administration made that 100,000 to 200,000 prediction the University of Washington model was predicting that as of today, April 14, there would be in the range of 22,018 through 37,646 deaths. As I type the deaths total at Worldometer for the United States is 25,975. So the Model as it was on March 31 was successful; at least i terms of reported deaths. The CDC will estimate death totals at some point and they will be higher.

How much higher it will be for any given period is hard to say because they are going to use an under-reporting factor. It suspect it'll be lower than that used for influenza. But the counts we're seeing now are of cases such that lab tests have been positives and the estimate is going to consider the fact that there have been many deaths associated with cases that were never confirmed through lab testing.

The effects are not being exaggerated. To me no sane person could think that when they look at what's going on around the world. Like Russia has shut down Moscow. and is using a digital tracking system to enforce it: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/world/mo ... index.html .

When is the last time you heard of Russia shutting down a major city due to an illness outbreak? I don't know about you, but for me the answer is "never." I'm sure it must've happened. But it's not a common thing.

When you see things like that maybe it's time to admit that this is a real threat. Russia didn't do that because the media were exaggerating the situation.

Here’s the UW model predicting 2609 deaths per day by today. This was put out on 4/1. We peaked almost 1,000 deaths per day BELOW that number.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUntq32WoAQ ... ame=medium

Once again, the absolute bottom of their predictive range ends up being a lot closer to actuality. That bears out almost without exception in their model. Pick a state, any state, and the actual curve will mirror or be below the lowest of their ranges.

The UW model had over 3k deaths per day peak just a couple of days before that..

[CID1990]

I love articles like this ....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ts-wrapper

Here's a fun game - go into the comments section and pick out the Chinese bots

Hint - they're indistinguishable from run of the mill liberals

[Gil Dobie]

Restaurants - They're already cooking and packaging food to go. Just seat every other table or remove every other table; servers wear masks and gloves, sanitize between sittings, remove condiments and provide prepackaged condiments on request.

Movie theatres - keep one/two seats empty between groups living in same household. Servers wear masks & gloves. Sell only prepackaged foods and sodas at the food counter

Car lots - sanitize vehicles after test drives. social distance during sales pitch. plastic guards at customer-facing desks; keep doors open so they don't have to be touched.

Athletics Events - go without spectators if they need to....or social distance like movie theatres with designated empty seats. Test players & coaches prior to events

Golf Courses - require everyone to have their own cart (unless already living in same house); no cart girl service

Fishing, hunting, hiking, camping, boating, etc. - get back to normal; these should be no brainers

Hospitals - Get back to elective surgeries & get doctors & nurses back to work. Test patients prior to hospital entry

Schools - Split shifts (7-12; 12:30-5:30) with half-sized classes to social distance. We did this in 3rd/4th/5th grade in Florence, MT due to class size overload. It ain't perfect but it would allow social distancing inside the classroom. Test kids prior to entry at the school. Hand sanitizer, gloves, masks, etc.

Grocery stores - keep doing what they're doing, it's working

If you work in an office environment and have your own office, you should be perfectly fine at work. Hell, even if you work in a cube farm you're still at least six-eight feet from the nearest person. Hand sanitizer, gloves, masks, minimize meeting sizes, take advantage of electronic forms of communication, etc....

Send home people who develop symptoms, have depressed immune systems or other high risk factors and let's get the fuck on with living.

This shit ain't rocket science.

AZ's right here - these are going to be the parameters going forward, no reason to wait 7 more weeks (in addition to the 4 weeks we've already had in shutdown) to put these out. Start letting businesses get ready for this now - things like plexiglass are in short supply right now as businesses currently open are sucking up those inventories. It'll take weeks for these places to ramp back up, get all these protections in place, and be ready to do business. If we wait another 7 weeks to wave the green flag, it'll be even weeks after that before things really get moving. Get the guidelines out, let these businesses start setting up shop and get things ready, and we go from there. Let's get to the new normal as soon as we can - where we are right now is just a holding pattern.

More fear mongering and hyperbole. Many, many small companies and businesses go under each year. I throw out a random end of May comment and it goes viral like it's been decided by someone. I could see the lockdown going to the end of April too. Next I'll hear, decide what you want. Well I didn't say I wanted either, just said I could see it happening. There is a very good unemployment plan out there for the jobless this year. Many will be temporary, like Casino's, and chain restaurants (64% of the market). According to you guys, you are going from a state sponsored lockdown, to even more supposed state sponsored rules which could become laws, wtf. Who's going to enforce all this crap about where to sit, where to stand bs. I would rather just hunker down and let the cluster fuck begin. Just make sure I have enough popcorn. Think it's time to take my money out of the 401K's and secure it when they release the idiots.

[AZGrizFan]

Go to their twitter feed and look at their tweets. That’s what I did.

Show your work.

It’s in their twitter feed on 3/31-4/1.

[AZGrizFan]

AZ's right here - these are going to be the parameters going forward, no reason to wait 7 more weeks (in addition to the 4 weeks we've already had in shutdown) to put these out. Start letting businesses get ready for this now - things like plexiglass are in short supply right now as businesses currently open are sucking up those inventories. It'll take weeks for these places to ramp back up, get all these protections in place, and be ready to do business. If we wait another 7 weeks to wave the green flag, it'll be even weeks after that before things really get moving. Get the guidelines out, let these businesses start setting up shop and get things ready, and we go from there. Let's get to the new normal as soon as we can - where we are right now is just a holding pattern.

More fear mongering and hyperbole. Many, many small companies and businesses go under each year. I throw out a random end of May comment and it goes viral like it's been decided by someone. I could see the lockdown going to the end of April too. Next I'll hear, decide what you want. Well I didn't say I wanted either, just said I could see it happening. There is a very good unemployment plan out there for the jobless this year. Many will be temporary, like Casino's, and chain restaurants (64% of the market). According to you guys, you are going from a state sponsored lockdown, to even more supposed state sponsored rules which could become laws, wtf. Who's going to enforce all this crap about where to sit, where to stand bs. I would rather just hunker down and let the cluster fuck begin. Just make sure I have enough popcorn. Think it's time to take my money out of the 401K's and secure it when they release the idiots.

I’m in no way advocating for these to become RULES. Personally I think every place should be opened back up and move along. But if people want to set customers’ minds at ease, they might consider some of these steps in the short term. It’s really not that complicated. Nor is it hyperbole. Nor is it fear mongering. GF is spot on. If they don’t lay out some guidelines NOW, to give businesses a chance to prepare, it’ll be ANOTHER 4-5 weeks AFTER they say “go” before business are actually open.

[GannonFan]

AZ's right here - these are going to be the parameters going forward, no reason to wait 7 more weeks (in addition to the 4 weeks we've already had in shutdown) to put these out. Start letting businesses get ready for this now - things like plexiglass are in short supply right now as businesses currently open are sucking up those inventories. It'll take weeks for these places to ramp back up, get all these protections in place, and be ready to do business. If we wait another 7 weeks to wave the green flag, it'll be even weeks after that before things really get moving. Get the guidelines out, let these businesses start setting up shop and get things ready, and we go from there. Let's get to the new normal as soon as we can - where we are right now is just a holding pattern.

More fear mongering and hyperbole. Many, many small companies and businesses go under each year. I throw out a random end of May comment and it goes viral like it's been decided by someone. I could see the lockdown going to the end of April too. Next I'll hear, decide what you want. Well I didn't say I wanted either, just said I could see it happening. There is a very good unemployment plan out there for the jobless this year. Many will be temporary, like Casino's, and chain restaurants (64% of the market). According to you guys, you are going from a state sponsored lockdown, to even more supposed state sponsored rules which could become laws, wtf. Who's going to enforce all this crap about where to sit, where to stand bs. I would rather just hunker down and let the cluster fuck begin. Just make sure I have enough popcorn. Think it's time to take my money out of the 401K's and secure it when they release the idiots.

So now you're flexible on the end of May? How generous of you.

I know it's easy to discount all of this by just calling it hyperbole and fear mongering and moving on, but who pays all of these great unemployment plans when state governments start to have trouble generating money? The city of Philadelphia is looking at a $2B hole as they aren't going to be able to pull in wage taxes now from people working from home (i.e. out of the city) or just not working at all. That's like at least 50% of the city's budget. When they can't afford to pay cops and fire fighters and social services and everything else, who's covering that? The federal government can print money, the states can't. The unexpected knock-down effects (like hospitals now furloughing staff due to underuse) are becoming more severe. I'm sure we can handle a few more weeks, but like I said, throwing out the end of May as you did is 7 weeks - that's a huge amount of time.

And yes, there are going to be more draconian laws - where to sit, what to wear, etc. I'm sure you might be fine hunkering down for 12-18 months, but to quote the far left, maybe you need to check your hunkering-down privilege at the door and think of those who can't just eat popcorn and watch people suffer for 12-18 months. We're already doing a lot of the rules you claim are bs because it's what has to be done. Factories and stores and offices that are open now are already doing these things. Yes, we'll have to keep on doing them until we can find a vaccine or treatment for this virus. Just can't ignore reality, that's why you need to adapt and overcome. Or, hide in your house for a year or so I suppose. If you have enough popcorn that is.

[Gil Dobie]

More fear mongering and hyperbole. Many, many small companies and businesses go under each year. I throw out a random end of May comment and it goes viral like it's been decided by someone. I could see the lockdown going to the end of April too. Next I'll hear, decide what you want. Well I didn't say I wanted either, just said I could see it happening. There is a very good unemployment plan out there for the jobless this year. Many will be temporary, like Casino's, and chain restaurants (64% of the market). According to you guys, you are going from a state sponsored lockdown, to even more supposed state sponsored rules which could become laws, wtf. Who's going to enforce all this crap about where to sit, where to stand bs. I would rather just hunker down and let the cluster fuck begin. Just make sure I have enough popcorn. Think it's time to take my money out of the 401K's and secure it when they release the idiots.

I’m in no way advocating for these to become RULES. Personally I think every place should be opened back up and move along. But if people want to set customers’ minds at ease, they might consider some of these steps in the short term. It’s really not that complicated. Nor is it hyperbole. Nor is it fear mongering. GF is spot on. If they don’t lay out some guidelines NOW, to give businesses a chance to prepare, it’ll be ANOTHER 4-5 weeks AFTER they say “go” before business are actually open.

There's a lot of people ignoring the current rules. It will be just as loose once things are back open. Testing and tracing is the best option I've seen. Works in S Korea.

[Gil Dobie]

More fear mongering and hyperbole. Many, many small companies and businesses go under each year. I throw out a random end of May comment and it goes viral like it's been decided by someone. I could see the lockdown going to the end of April too. Next I'll hear, decide what you want. Well I didn't say I wanted either, just said I could see it happening. There is a very good unemployment plan out there for the jobless this year. Many will be temporary, like Casino's, and chain restaurants (64% of the market). According to you guys, you are going from a state sponsored lockdown, to even more supposed state sponsored rules which could become laws, wtf. Who's going to enforce all this crap about where to sit, where to stand bs. I would rather just hunker down and let the cluster fuck begin. Just make sure I have enough popcorn. Think it's time to take my money out of the 401K's and secure it when they release the idiots.

So now you're flexible on the end of May? How generous of you.

I know it's easy to discount all of this by just calling it hyperbole and fear mongering and moving on, but who pays all of these great unemployment plans when state governments start to have trouble generating money? The city of Philadelphia is looking at a $2B hole as they aren't going to be able to pull in wage taxes now from people working from home (i.e. out of the city) or just not working at all. That's like at least 50% of the city's budget. When they can't afford to pay cops and fire fighters and social services and everything else, who's covering that? The federal government can print money, the states can't. The unexpected knock-down effects (like hospitals now furloughing staff due to underuse) are becoming more severe. I'm sure we can handle a few more weeks, but like I said, throwing out the end of May as you did is 7 weeks - that's a huge amount of time.

And yes, there are going to be more draconian laws - where to sit, what to wear, etc. I'm sure you might be fine hunkering down for 12-18 months, but to quote the far left, maybe you need to check your hunkering-down privilege at the door and think of those who can't just eat popcorn and watch people suffer for 12-18 months. We're already doing a lot of the rules you claim are bs because it's what has to be done. Factories and stores and offices that are open now are already doing these things. Yes, we'll have to keep on doing them until we can find a vaccine or treatment for this virus. Just can't ignore reality, that's why you need to adapt and overcome. Or, hide in your house for a year or so I suppose. If you have enough popcorn that is.

Look back at my original statement. Didn't say I wanted end of May did I, you took that date and ran with it all day long. I'll go along with what Dr Fauci says.

[UNI88]

So now you're flexible on the end of May? How generous of you.

I know it's easy to discount all of this by just calling it hyperbole and fear mongering and moving on, but who pays all of these great unemployment plans when state governments start to have trouble generating money? The city of Philadelphia is looking at a $2B hole as they aren't going to be able to pull in wage taxes now from people working from home (i.e. out of the city) or just not working at all. That's like at least 50% of the city's budget. When they can't afford to pay cops and fire fighters and social services and everything else, who's covering that? The federal government can print money, the states can't. The unexpected knock-down effects (like hospitals now furloughing staff due to underuse) are becoming more severe. I'm sure we can handle a few more weeks, but like I said, throwing out the end of May as you did is 7 weeks - that's a huge amount of time.

And yes, there are going to be more draconian laws - where to sit, what to wear, etc. I'm sure you might be fine hunkering down for 12-18 months, but to quote the far left, maybe you need to check your hunkering-down privilege at the door and think of those who can't just eat popcorn and watch people suffer for 12-18 months. We're already doing a lot of the rules you claim are bs because it's what has to be done. Factories and stores and offices that are open now are already doing these things. Yes, we'll have to keep on doing them until we can find a vaccine or treatment for this virus. Just can't ignore reality, that's why you need to adapt and overcome. Or, hide in your house for a year or so I suppose. If you have enough popcorn that is.

Look back at my original statement. Didn't say I wanted end of May did I, you took that date and ran with it all day long. I'll go along with what Dr Fauci says.

Dr. Fauci is a physician and immunologist. He isn't qualified to understand the sociological and economic impacts of shelter-in-place, physical distancing, etc. Why don't we get someone with expertise in those fields involved and trust their opinion as well?

[Skjellyfetti]

Kushner and Ivanka are on it. We should be good.

[Ivytalk]

Kushner and Ivanka are on it. We should be good.

Both of them?

[mainejeff]

Restaurants - They're already cooking and packaging food to go. Just seat every other table or remove every other table; servers wear masks and gloves, sanitize between sittings, remove condiments and provide prepackaged condiments on request.

Movie theatres - keep one/two seats empty between groups living in same household. Servers wear masks & gloves. Sell only prepackaged foods and sodas at the food counter

Car lots - sanitize vehicles after test drives. social distance during sales pitch. plastic guards at customer-facing desks; keep doors open so they don't have to be touched.

Athletics Events - go without spectators if they need to....or social distance like movie theatres with designated empty seats. Test players & coaches prior to events

Golf Courses - require everyone to have their own cart (unless already living in same house); no cart girl service

Fishing, hunting, hiking, camping, boating, etc. - get back to normal; these should be no brainers

Hospitals - Get back to elective surgeries & get doctors & nurses back to work. Test patients prior to hospital entry

Schools - Split shifts (7-12; 12:30-5:30) with half-sized classes to social distance. We did this in 3rd/4th/5th grade in Florence, MT due to class size overload. It ain't perfect but it would allow social distancing inside the classroom. Test kids prior to entry at the school. Hand sanitizer, gloves, masks, etc.

Grocery stores - keep doing what they're doing, it's working

If you work in an office environment and have your own office, you should be perfectly fine at work. Hell, even if you work in a cube farm you're still at least six-eight feet from the nearest person. Hand sanitizer, gloves, masks, minimize meeting sizes, take advantage of electronic forms of communication, etc....

Send home people who develop symptoms, have depressed immune systems or other high risk factors and let's get the fuck on with living.

This shit ain't rocket science.

AZ's right here - these are going to be the parameters going forward, no reason to wait 7 more weeks (in addition to the 4 weeks we've already had in shutdown) to put these out. Start letting businesses get ready for this now - things like plexiglass are in short supply right now as businesses currently open are sucking up those inventories. It'll take weeks for these places to ramp back up, get all these protections in place, and be ready to do business. If we wait another 7 weeks to wave the green flag, it'll be even weeks after that before things really get moving. Get the guidelines out, let these businesses start setting up shop and get things ready, and we go from there. Let's get to the new normal as soon as we can - where we are right now is just a holding pattern.

Where are the fucking tests?

[mainejeff]

More fear mongering and hyperbole. Many, many small companies and businesses go under each year. I throw out a random end of May comment and it goes viral like it's been decided by someone. I could see the lockdown going to the end of April too. Next I'll hear, decide what you want. Well I didn't say I wanted either, just said I could see it happening. There is a very good unemployment plan out there for the jobless this year. Many will be temporary, like Casino's, and chain restaurants (64% of the market). According to you guys, you are going from a state sponsored lockdown, to even more supposed state sponsored rules which could become laws, wtf. Who's going to enforce all this crap about where to sit, where to stand bs. I would rather just hunker down and let the cluster fuck begin. Just make sure I have enough popcorn. Think it's time to take my money out of the 401K's and secure it when they release the idiots.

[mainejeff]

I’m in no way advocating for these to become RULES. Personally I think every place should be opened back up and move along. But if people want to set customers’ minds at ease, they might consider some of these steps in the short term. It’s really not that complicated. Nor is it hyperbole. Nor is it fear mongering. GF is spot on. If they don’t lay out some guidelines NOW, to give businesses a chance to prepare, it’ll be ANOTHER 4-5 weeks AFTER they say “go” before business are actually open.

There's a lot of people ignoring the current rules. It will be just as loose once things are back open. Testing and tracing is the best option I've seen. Works in S Korea.

[mainejeff]

So now you're flexible on the end of May? How generous of you.

I know it's easy to discount all of this by just calling it hyperbole and fear mongering and moving on, but who pays all of these great unemployment plans when state governments start to have trouble generating money? The city of Philadelphia is looking at a $2B hole as they aren't going to be able to pull in wage taxes now from people working from home (i.e. out of the city) or just not working at all. That's like at least 50% of the city's budget. When they can't afford to pay cops and fire fighters and social services and everything else, who's covering that? The federal government can print money, the states can't. The unexpected knock-down effects (like hospitals now furloughing staff due to underuse) are becoming more severe. I'm sure we can handle a few more weeks, but like I said, throwing out the end of May as you did is 7 weeks - that's a huge amount of time.

And yes, there are going to be more draconian laws - where to sit, what to wear, etc. I'm sure you might be fine hunkering down for 12-18 months, but to quote the far left, maybe you need to check your hunkering-down privilege at the door and think of those who can't just eat popcorn and watch people suffer for 12-18 months. We're already doing a lot of the rules you claim are bs because it's what has to be done. Factories and stores and offices that are open now are already doing these things. Yes, we'll have to keep on doing them until we can find a vaccine or treatment for this virus. Just can't ignore reality, that's why you need to adapt and overcome. Or, hide in your house for a year or so I suppose. If you have enough popcorn that is.

Look back at my original statement. Didn't say I wanted end of May did I, you took that date and ran with it all day long. I'll go along with what Dr Fauci says.

Hopefully he doesn't disappear in the middle of the night.

[mainejeff]

Look back at my original statement. Didn't say I wanted end of May did I, you took that date and ran with it all day long. I'll go along with what Dr Fauci says.

Dr. Fauci is a physician and immunologist. He isn't qualified to understand the sociological and economic impacts of shelter-in-place, physical distancing, etc. Why don't we get someone with expertise in those fields involved and trust their opinion as well?

I think that he understand perfectly. He would tell you straight up expect more spreading of the virus and more human death....pretty simple.

I find it pretty telling that the Party of Life wants everyone to get back to work. The President of the United States should lead the way.....let him, Pence and the rest of his inner circle (his family)...... do a tour of states that open and go into the factories, stores and restaurants to support the people on the front lines.

[Gil Dobie]

Looking at the graphs, the US might be on just over the peak, if number continue to be consistent. If they can orchestrate a good testing and tracing program after the numbers get down to a certain point, they could open things up.

4/6 - 1259 deaths
4/7 - 1973
4/8 - 1943
4/9 - 1901
4/10 - 2035
4/11 - 1830
4/12 - 1528
4/13 - 1535

WorldoMeter Link

So much for being over the hump, 2500+ deaths yesterday. What's an acceptable number of death per day that the economy saviors need to take away shelter in home?

[kalm]

Good news. Finally got approved for our PPP relief. 75% must go to payroll and 25% to utilities. It has to be used in 8 weeks. Still have to get clarification on what constitutes “utilities” other than the obvious. Fuel? Parts for the limping JD 8800 rough mower? Comcast? If guidelines are met, its 100% forgiven.

Still waiting on approval from SBA and state emergency funding.

All 3 of our leasing companies and our insurance company are providing at least 3 months deferment of payments.

[grizzaholic]

Anyone heard from bobby? Maybe on social media or something?

It's Bob dammit!

Day 2- just had a tele-visit with my doc. She asked me to come in to test for flu, strep, and coronavirus. Results in 72 hours for the big one.

Well keep us posted.

[CAA Flagship]

Good news. Finally got approved for our PPP relief. 75% must go to payroll and 25% to utilities. It has to be used in 8 weeks. Still have to get clarification on what constitutes “utilities” other than the obvious. Fuel? Parts for the limping JD 8800 rough mower? Comcast? If guidelines are met, its 100% forgiven.

Still waiting on approval from SBA and state emergency funding.

All 3 of our leasing companies and our insurance company are providing at least 3 months deferment of payments.

I'm guessing it won't be a problem exhausting the money on the obvious answers. But maybe you got more?
I'm interested to know how you have to prove any of the spending. Do you have to file payroll reports, utilities bills, etc. and account for every dime spent?

[kalm]

Good news. Finally got approved for our PPP relief. 75% must go to payroll and 25% to utilities. It has to be used in 8 weeks. Still have to get clarification on what constitutes “utilities” other than the obvious. Fuel? Parts for the limping JD 8800 rough mower? Comcast? If guidelines are met, its 100% forgiven.

Still waiting on approval from SBA and state emergency funding.

All 3 of our leasing companies and our insurance company are providing at least 3 months deferment of payments.

I'm guessing it won't be a problem exhausting the money on the obvious answers. But maybe you got more?
I'm interested to know how you have to prove any of the spending. Do you have to file payroll reports, utilities bills, etc. and account for every dime spent?

Yes, and the processing goes through regular lenders.

[kalm]

It feels good to be able to put at least some of my staff back to work. There also might be some opportunities to more efficiently and affordably bang out some projects like wall to wall aeration and redefining fairway and approach cuts while there’s no one on the course. Get them out of the way without disruption.

[HI54UNI]

Anybody else have their stimulus check hit their bank account today?