2020 Democratic Nomination Process Mega-thread

[Ibanez]

Not happening - Joe done promised on TV right in front of god and anybody that his partner will be a woman. He probably doesn't remeber doing that but he did.

I think it'll be Warren, who proved to be one of the few capable of going on the offensive during the debates. She's also a policy-wonk who can intelligently detail her arguments.

And while not really progressive, she's left of Biden and helps bridge the gap between the neoliberals and progressives. There was a lot of crossover between Warren/Sanders and she'd be best equipped to bring discontent Sanders voters into the equation.

Is that the same Warren who is pretty much hated by most democrats and did quite poorly during the primaries? That would be a monumental mistake.

[GannonFan]

On WSJ.com, Lance Morrow now calls for a Biden-Cuomo ticket to beat Trump. The womyn will have to wait...again.

This just goes to show that TV appearances > actual performance....especially in a crisis.

The problem with Cuomo is, beyond the fact that he doesn't really excite the Bernie bros at all, is that picking Cuomo negates the chance to go after Trump for his response to the Covid crisis because it would open up Cuomo (and therefore Biden) to the same attacks. New York is clearly an outlier in the US when it comes to this pandemic, and I don't see that changing between now and the election. So although Cuomo has been great in press conferences, you can't then pick him and try to bash Trump for his Covid response when you have on your ticket the guy in charge of the single biggest Covid disaster in this country, with sound bites of Cuomo prior to the crisis saying everything will be okay.

And if Biden doesn't pick a woman it's going to really undercut him - he has to pick one or he can write off any chance in November.

[GannonFan]

I think it'll be Warren, who proved to be one of the few capable of going on the offensive during the debates. She's also a policy-wonk who can intelligently detail her arguments.

And while not really progressive, she's left of Biden and helps bridge the gap between the neoliberals and progressives. There was a lot of crossover between Warren/Sanders and she'd be best equipped to bring discontent Sanders voters into the equation.

Is that the same Warren who is pretty much hated by most democrats and did quite poorly during the primaries? That would be a monumental mistake.

Not to mention the Bernie camp actually blames Warren for staying in the race and undercutting Bernie when the DNC and the establishment was convincing the more moderate candidates to get out and support Biden so as not to split his votes. She's not well liked in Bernie Bros circles.

[kalm]

This just goes to show that TV appearances > actual performance....especially in a crisis.

The problem with Cuomo is, beyond the fact that he doesn't really excite the Bernie bros at all, is that picking Cuomo negates the chance to go after Trump for his response to the Covid crisis because it would open up Cuomo (and therefore Biden) to the same attacks. New York is clearly an outlier in the US when it comes to this pandemic, and I don't see that changing between now and the election. So although Cuomo has been great in press conferences, you can't then pick him and try to bash Trump for his Covid response when you have on your ticket the guy in charge of the single biggest Covid disaster in this country, with sound bites of Cuomo prior to the crisis saying everything will be okay.

And if Biden doesn't pick a woman it's going to really undercut him - he has to pick one or he can write off any chance in November.

Yep. But I still don’t think Biden will be the nominee due to health.

[GannonFan]

The problem with Cuomo is, beyond the fact that he doesn't really excite the Bernie bros at all, is that picking Cuomo negates the chance to go after Trump for his response to the Covid crisis because it would open up Cuomo (and therefore Biden) to the same attacks. New York is clearly an outlier in the US when it comes to this pandemic, and I don't see that changing between now and the election. So although Cuomo has been great in press conferences, you can't then pick him and try to bash Trump for his Covid response when you have on your ticket the guy in charge of the single biggest Covid disaster in this country, with sound bites of Cuomo prior to the crisis saying everything will be okay.

And if Biden doesn't pick a woman it's going to really undercut him - he has to pick one or he can write off any chance in November.

Yep. But I still don’t think Biden will be the nominee due to health.

That's certainly a possibility, but that would make for one heckuva cluster for the Dems at this point. With the real possibility that you end up with a virtual convention, how would they be able to spin whomever the nominee is as being the person the party is really behind? Bernie is clearly the runner-up in the party, but it's also a party that closed ranks behind Biden just to make sure Bernie isn't the nominee - how do they come back from that and say yeah, we're good with Bernie now? And almost anybody else you pick has already lost to Bernie, so vaulting them ahead of Bernie will keep the Bernie Bros on the sideline come November. if Joe can't make it to the election the Dems are considerable trouble.

[89Hen]

I think it makes sense to just cancel the election this year.

[HI54UNI]

I think it makes sense to just cancel the election this year.

I thought dictator Trump already did that????

[89Hen]

I think it makes sense to just cancel the election this year.

I thought dictator Trump already did that????

I think HuffPo reported that last week.

[UNI88]

I think it'll be Warren, who proved to be one of the few capable of going on the offensive during the debates. She's also a policy-wonk who can intelligently detail her arguments.

And while not really progressive, she's left of Biden and helps bridge the gap between the neoliberals and progressives. There was a lot of crossover between Warren/Sanders and she'd be best equipped to bring discontent Sanders voters into the equation.

Is that the same Warren who is pretty much hated by most democrats and did quite poorly during the primaries? That would be a monumental mistake.

Trip might be right. There is not perfect choice for Biden and Warren checks some boxes and leaves some blank just like the other possibilities.

A key factor will be whether his handlers think Biden will actually be the candidate for the general election or whether he'll step aside due to health reasons. If he's the candidate, I think it will be someone like Tammy Baldwin (WI) or Gretchen Whitmer (MI). Checks the woman box and helps in a battleground state. If there's a decent chance that he won't be the candidate you need someone who can step up - Kamala, Klobuchar, etc.

Here’s an early look at the list of women from whom Biden is likely choosing.

[HI54UNI]

Is that the same Warren who is pretty much hated by most democrats and did quite poorly during the primaries? That would be a monumental mistake.

Trip might be right. There is not perfect choice for Biden and Warren checks some boxes and leaves some blank just like the other possibilities.

A key factor will be whether his handlers think Biden will actually be the candidate for the general election or whether he'll step aside due to health reasons. If he's the candidate, I think it will be someone like Tammy Baldwin (WI) or Gretchen Whitmer (MI). Checks the woman box and helps in a battleground state. If there's a decent chance that he won't be the candidate you need someone who can step up - Kamala, Klobuchar, etc.

Here’s an early look at the list of women from whom Biden is likely choosing.

IMO Whitmer crashed and burned this week with her stupidity on Michigan's various virus bans.

[kalm]

Yep. But I still don’t think Biden will be the nominee due to health.

That's certainly a possibility, but that would make for one heckuva cluster for the Dems at this point. With the real possibility that you end up with a virtual convention, how would they be able to spin whomever the nominee is as being the person the party is really behind? Bernie is clearly the runner-up in the party, but it's also a party that closed ranks behind Biden just to make sure Bernie isn't the nominee - how do they come back from that and say yeah, we're good with Bernie now? And almost anybody else you pick has already lost to Bernie, so vaulting them ahead of Bernie will keep the Bernie Bros on the sideline come November. if Joe can't make it to the election the Dems are considerable trouble.

Great points, Ganny!

[BDKJMU]

Not happening - Joe done promised on TV right in front of god and anybody that his partner will be a woman. He probably doesn't remeber doing that but he did.

I think it'll be Warren, who proved to be one of the few capable of going on the offensive during the debates. She's also a policy-wonk who can intelligently detail her arguments.

And while not really progressive, she's left of Biden and helps bridge the gap between the neoliberals and progressives. There was a decent crossover between Warren/Sanders and she's best equipped to bring discontent Sanders supporters into the equation.

Pocahontas would be awesome

[SDHornet]

Good lord, SD. Cuck? Full retard conk level 1 achieved.....


On another note:


“Dozens of former staffers from Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign were reportedly invited to a Zoom video call Wednesday to celebrate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) dropping out of the 2020 Democratic primary, BuzzFeed News reported.

"Invitation: Bye, bye Bernard (HFA celebration toast)," the email to the former Clinton staffers read Wednesday, less than an hour after Sanders told supporters he was ending his campaign, according to screenshots provided by two people to the outlet.

"He's finally gone (again!). Join for a celebratory toast if you can! And yes, you can loop," the message continued for the event that was set for 4 p.m.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.co ... ping%3famp

He cucked last time, no? Or was that a Bernie double that started shilling for hildog after he got ass raped by the DNC?

Give it time, Bernie will start shilling for Biden in no time. So yeah, "cuck" is the exact word that plays here.

Bump. Bernie cuck is confirmed. Now Bernie is a Biden bitchboi. What were you Leftists claiming about Bernie's principles?

The only thing left to find out now is how much Bernie cashed in on.

(CNN)Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden for president, pledging to help him defeat President Donald Trump in the general election as the two agreed to launch a series of task forces to work jointly on policy matters.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/politics ... index.html

[SDHornet]

Not happening - Joe done promised on TV right in front of god and anybody that his partner will be a woman. He probably doesn't remeber doing that but he did.

I think it'll be Warren, who proved to be one of the few capable of going on the offensive during the debates. She's also a policy-wonk who can intelligently detail her arguments.

And while not really progressive, she's left of Biden and helps bridge the gap between the neoliberals and progressives. There was a decent crossover between Warren/Sanders and she's best equipped to bring discontent Sanders supporters into the equation.

So you actually bought into Warrens "I'm a progressive" act?!?!

You know she cost Bernie Super Tuesday, right?

[SDHornet]

I think it'll be Warren, who proved to be one of the few capable of going on the offensive during the debates. She's also a policy-wonk who can intelligently detail her arguments.

And while not really progressive, she's left of Biden and helps bridge the gap between the neoliberals and progressives. There was a decent crossover between Warren/Sanders and she's best equipped to bring discontent Sanders supporters into the equation.

Pocahontas would be awesome

Yup, awesome for Trump.

[SDHornet]

Good luck to the DNC getting the genie back in the bottle.

[mainejeff]

Good luck to the DNC getting the genie back in the bottle.

Good-bye Bernie Bros! You'll fit in much better with all the MAGA man babies anyway.

[BDKJMU]

Yeah the Bernie Bros have gone from ‘Feeling the Bern‘ to getting burned, now 2x in 4 years by Cuck Sanders, who yet again got bent over and took one for the DNC. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[mainejeff]

Yeah the Bernie Bros have gone from ‘Feeling the Bern‘ to getting burned, now 2x in 4 years by Cuck Sanders, who yet again got bent over and took one for the DNC. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

They just need to make the switch to Trump. We all know they want to. This isn't about "socialism".....its about an old white dude corralling angry masses of young white men for his own political gain. Sound familiar?

[SDHornet]

Good luck to the DNC getting the genie back in the bottle.

Good-bye Bernie Bros! You'll fit in much better with all the MAGA man babies anyway.

Bernie's main demographic (young voters) doesn't vote, so I'm not sure why the DNC is even concerned with trying to woe them out anyways. I guess when Biden is your front may you have to get creative.

[AZGrizFan]

Trip might be right. There is not perfect choice for Biden and Warren checks some boxes and leaves some blank just like the other possibilities.

A key factor will be whether his handlers think Biden will actually be the candidate for the general election or whether he'll step aside due to health reasons. If he's the candidate, I think it will be someone like Tammy Baldwin (WI) or Gretchen Whitmer (MI). Checks the woman box and helps in a battleground state. If there's a decent chance that he won't be the candidate you need someone who can step up - Kamala, Klobuchar, etc.

Here’s an early look at the list of women from whom Biden is likely choosing.

IMO Whitmer crashed and burned this week with her stupidity on Michigan's various virus bans.

She’s unreal. One step from Nazi Germany there in Michigan.....

[∞∞∞]

I think it'll be Warren, who proved to be one of the few capable of going on the offensive during the debates. She's also a policy-wonk who can intelligently detail her arguments.

And while not really progressive, she's left of Biden and helps bridge the gap between the neoliberals and progressives. There was a decent crossover between Warren/Sanders and she's best equipped to bring discontent Sanders supporters into the equation.

So you actually bought into Warrens "I'm a progressive" act?!?!

You know she cost Bernie Super Tuesday, right?

Warren's not a progressive (neither is Sanders). Warren's a little right of moderate, and Sanders a little left.

[AZGrizFan]

So you actually bought into Warrens "I'm a progressive" act?!?!

You know she cost Bernie Super Tuesday, right?

Warren's not really progressive; heck I don't even think Bernie Sanders is a progressive...maybe a little left of moderate.

Define where you believe the “progressive” line to be....

[SDHornet]

Warren's not really progressive; heck I don't even think Bernie Sanders is a progressive...maybe a little left of moderate.

Define where you believe the “progressive” line to be....

No kidding. "She's not progressive but she's left of Bernie."

[∞∞∞]

Warren's not really progressive; heck I don't even think Bernie Sanders is a progressive...maybe a little left of moderate.

Define where you believe the “progressive” line to be....

A progressive would be trying to dismantle the systemic flaws in our "democracy" and economic structures, as well as push for a complete overhaul of how society is structured. Sanders is simply pushing items which should have been addressed decades ago.

Universal healthcare/education, green policies, and higher taxes on rich corps/individuals are common-sense, moderate ideas...

...except in the US.