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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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mainejeff wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:57 am

We really are the dumbest "developed" cuntry in the world. :ohno:
I can't understand how these people look at nations mandating masks in public - some boasting a 90% decrease in transmission rates - and still have the audacity to think this way. It's an act of consideration to your fellow man, not a threat to your freedom.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:12 am

I can't understand how these people look at nations mandating masks in public - some boasting a 90% decrease in transmission rates - and still have the audacity to think this way. It's an act of consideration to your fellow man, not a threat to your freedom.
At least one conk seems to get it...

:notworthy:

“Dear friends, I am currently hangry and it has been a long week, both of which are signs that I should step away from the keyboard. But I’m not. I would like to go on a profanity laced tirade. I apologize in advance
When did the conservative movement get filled with a bunch of whiny little bitches? Muh freedom! They are making me wear a mask. OMG I can’t go get drunk at my favorite restaurant. Give me liberty or give me coronavirus. Good grief. You people are grifty whiners.
You just managed to stack up the whole of the federal judiciary with a bunch of liberty loving judges. If you really think you’re rights are being violated, file a fucking lawsuit and the odds are really damn good you’ll get in front of one of those liberty loving Trump judges.
But nope. You’d rather get on social media and declare the country has come to an end, our freedoms are gone, and you’re forced to stay inside. Get a grip. There’s a global pandemic and the same president whose leg you like to hump has wanted you to shelter in place“

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258 ... 21857.html

will this go down as "The famous kalm mothers day massacre rant"

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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Chizzang wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 4:01 pm
kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm

At least one conk seems to get it...

:notworthy:

“Dear friends, I am currently hangry and it has been a long week, both of which are signs that I should step away from the keyboard. But I’m not. I would like to go on a profanity laced tirade. I apologize in advance
When did the conservative movement get filled with a bunch of whiny little bitches? Muh freedom! They are making me wear a mask. OMG I can’t go get drunk at my favorite restaurant. Give me liberty or give me coronavirus. Good grief. You people are grifty whiners.
You just managed to stack up the whole of the federal judiciary with a bunch of liberty loving judges. If you really think you’re rights are being violated, file a fucking lawsuit and the odds are really damn good you’ll get in front of one of those liberty loving Trump judges.
But nope. You’d rather get on social media and declare the country has come to an end, our freedoms are gone, and you’re forced to stay inside. Get a grip. There’s a global pandemic and the same president whose leg you like to hump has wanted you to shelter in place“

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258 ... 21857.html

will this go down as "The famous kalm mothers day massacre rant"

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It’s not my rant, homey. But if you’d like I can go on one.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:12 am

I can't understand how these people look at nations mandating masks in public - some boasting a 90% decrease in transmission rates - and still have the audacity to think this way. It's an act of consideration to your fellow man, not a threat to your freedom.
At least one conk seems to get it...

:notworthy:

“Dear friends, I am currently hangry and it has been a long week, both of which are signs that I should step away from the keyboard. But I’m not. I would like to go on a profanity laced tirade. I apologize in advance
When did the conservative movement get filled with a bunch of whiny little bitches? Muh freedom! They are making me wear a mask. OMG I can’t go get drunk at my favorite restaurant. Give me liberty or give me coronavirus. Good grief. You people are grifty whiners.
You just managed to stack up the whole of the federal judiciary with a bunch of liberty loving judges. If you really think you’re rights are being violated, file a fucking lawsuit and the odds are really damn good you’ll get in front of one of those liberty loving Trump judges.
But nope. You’d rather get on social media and declare the country has come to an end, our freedoms are gone, and you’re forced to stay inside. Get a grip. There’s a global pandemic and the same president whose leg you like to hump has wanted you to shelter in place“

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258 ... 21857.html
Another fake conk who has zero clue as to what the protests are really about.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:27 pm
kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 1:44 pm

At least one conk seems to get it...

:notworthy:

“Dear friends, I am currently hangry and it has been a long week, both of which are signs that I should step away from the keyboard. But I’m not. I would like to go on a profanity laced tirade. I apologize in advance
When did the conservative movement get filled with a bunch of whiny little bitches? Muh freedom! They are making me wear a mask. OMG I can’t go get drunk at my favorite restaurant. Give me liberty or give me coronavirus. Good grief. You people are grifty whiners.
You just managed to stack up the whole of the federal judiciary with a bunch of liberty loving judges. If you really think you’re rights are being violated, file a fucking lawsuit and the odds are really damn good you’ll get in front of one of those liberty loving Trump judges.
But nope. You’d rather get on social media and declare the country has come to an end, our freedoms are gone, and you’re forced to stay inside. Get a grip. There’s a global pandemic and the same president whose leg you like to hump has wanted you to shelter in place“

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258 ... 21857.html
Another fake conk who has zero clue as to what the protests are really about.
What are they about and how do they help?
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:07 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:27 pm

Another fake conk who has zero clue as to what the protests are really about.
What are they about and how do they help?
They are about the fact that we have an unfortunately large number of people in this country who are ignorant conspiracy theorists. And they don't help at all.

They also contribute to a continuing trend whereby the conservative movement is seen more and more as the movement of ignoramuses.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:07 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:27 pm

Another fake conk who has zero clue as to what the protests are really about.
What are they about and how do they help?
If you don’t see the slippery slope this country is on I can’t help you. People willingly giving up freedom for the illusion of safety provided by a benevolent government.

Thanks but no thanks.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Now for a positive: The Worldometers site recorded only 750 USA deaths during the last recent Universal Time day that ended a bit over an hour ago. That is the first time the site recorded less than 1,000 USA deaths in a day since March 30. I am still hoping for a seasonal decline.

Without going into much detail I will say that I deal with viral outbreaks pretty regularly. Different type of thing. Not nearly as potentially serious. Mostly has to do with being wed to the toilet and discharging from both ends for a while. But the "season" in the Southeast is basically November through April. I think that most pathogenic viruses do tend to do better during the colder season. I think increased ultraviolet light is hostile to them. I also think higher temperature is. In other words you can see that they survive for longer in the environment, all other things being equal, when there is more intense sunlight. Also, you can see the same thing when temperatures are higher. Even when sunlight is excluded so that you know ultraviolet light is not a factor.

Could be completely different with this virus. But I am hoping not. And if my hope if realized we will start seeing something soon as we are now moving into the hostile season.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:26 pm
kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:07 pm

What are they about and how do they help?
If you don’t see the slippery slope this country is on I can’t help you. People willingly giving up freedom for the illusion of safety provided by a benevolent government.

Thanks but no thanks.
Why would you think I’m not aware of the slippery slope?

I just wish the caliber of protestor was a little greater. Bubbas with their rifles standing shoulder to shoulder is a self fulfilling prophecy for staying shut down.

I want to open sooner not later. Sorry you disagree.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:50 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:26 pm

If you don’t see the slippery slope this country is on I can’t help you. People willingly giving up freedom for the illusion of safety provided by a benevolent government.

Thanks but no thanks.
Why would you think I’m not aware of the slippery slope?

I just wish the caliber of protestor was a little greater. Bubbas with their rifles standing shoulder to shoulder is a self fulfilling prophecy for staying shut down.

I want to open sooner not later. Sorry you disagree.
Well who’s going to do it? You? Starbucks baristas? No people like you and Starbucks baristas would rather just sit and bitch about the “caliber of protestor”.

“He who would give up freedom for safety will have neither.”

You claim to understand the slippery slope and then bitch about those who would do something about it? I don’t get it....
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:57 pm
kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:50 pm

Why would you think I’m not aware of the slippery slope?

I just wish the caliber of protestor was a little greater. Bubbas with their rifles standing shoulder to shoulder is a self fulfilling prophecy for staying shut down.

I want to open sooner not later. Sorry you disagree.
Well who’s going to do it? You? Starbucks baristas? No people like you and Starbucks baristas would rather just sit and bitch about the “caliber of protestor”.

“He who would give up freedom for safety will have neither.”

You claim to understand the slippery slope and then bitch about those who would do something about it? I don’t get it....
1). Have you gone to a protest yet?

2). Did you display your gun?

3). Did you practice social distancing?

4). Did you wear a mask?
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:13 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:57 pm

Well who’s going to do it? You? Starbucks baristas? No people like you and Starbucks baristas would rather just sit and bitch about the “caliber of protestor”.

“He who would give up freedom for safety will have neither.”

You claim to understand the slippery slope and then bitch about those who would do something about it? I don’t get it....
1). Have you gone to a protest yet?

2). Did you display your gun?

3). Did you practice social distancing?

4). Did you wear a mask?
None of those are remotely relevant. What I have NOT done is bitch about the “quality of protestor” who are willing to put themselves out there and defend our freedoms that most Americans seem more than willing to give up under the guise of “safety”.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:28 pm Now for a positive: The Worldometers site recorded only 750 USA deaths during the last recent Universal Time day that ended a bit over an hour ago. That is the first time the site recorded less than 1,000 USA deaths in a day since March 30. I am still hoping for a seasonal decline.

Without going into much detail I will say that I deal with viral outbreaks pretty regularly. Different type of thing. Not nearly as potentially serious. Mostly has to do with being wed to the toilet and discharging from both ends for a while. But the "season" in the Southeast is basically November through April. I think that most pathogenic viruses do tend to do better during the colder season. I think increased ultraviolet light is hostile to them. I also think higher temperature is. In other words you can see that they survive for longer in the environment, all other things being equal, when there is more intense sunlight. Also, you can see the same thing when temperatures are higher. Even when sunlight is excluded so that you know ultraviolet light is not a factor.

Could be completely different with this virus. But I am hoping not. And if my hope if realized we will start seeing something soon as we are now moving into the hostile season.
Numbers have been down on Sundays, only to rise again on Monday. The rise has been less each week, so hope for the best.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Gil Dobie wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:20 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 6:28 pm Now for a positive: The Worldometers site recorded only 750 USA deaths during the last recent Universal Time day that ended a bit over an hour ago. That is the first time the site recorded less than 1,000 USA deaths in a day since March 30. I am still hoping for a seasonal decline.

Without going into much detail I will say that I deal with viral outbreaks pretty regularly. Different type of thing. Not nearly as potentially serious. Mostly has to do with being wed to the toilet and discharging from both ends for a while. But the "season" in the Southeast is basically November through April. I think that most pathogenic viruses do tend to do better during the colder season. I think increased ultraviolet light is hostile to them. I also think higher temperature is. In other words you can see that they survive for longer in the environment, all other things being equal, when there is more intense sunlight. Also, you can see the same thing when temperatures are higher. Even when sunlight is excluded so that you know ultraviolet light is not a factor.

Could be completely different with this virus. But I am hoping not. And if my hope if realized we will start seeing something soon as we are now moving into the hostile season.
Numbers have been down on Sundays, only to rise again on Monday. The rise has been less each week, so hope for the best.
A number of counties, states, and countries are no longer reporting on Sundays. Some aren’t reporting on weekends.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:18 pm
kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:13 pm

1). Have you gone to a protest yet?

2). Did you display your gun?

3). Did you practice social distancing?

4). Did you wear a mask?
None of those are remotely relevant. What I have NOT done is bitch about the “quality of protestor” who are willing to put themselves out there and defend our freedoms that most Americans seem more than willing to give up under the guise of “safety”.
So I assume you’ve done none of those things. I wouldn’t either.

The article is describing you to a T, just like I can be called out for hypocrisy on some issues as well.

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kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:25 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:18 pm

None of those are remotely relevant. What I have NOT done is bitch about the “quality of protestor” who are willing to put themselves out there and defend our freedoms that most Americans seem more than willing to give up under the guise of “safety”.
So I assume you’ve done none of those things. I wouldn’t either.

The article is describing you to a T, just like I can be called out for hypocrisy on some issues as well.

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It only makes me a hypocrite if I try to badger someone ELSE to do those things when I won’t do them myself. And BTW, your assumption (as usual) is wrong.
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Possible 72 positive test from people participating in the Wisconsin protest.

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On Friday, the state Department of Health Services said there have been 1,986 confirmed cases since the weekend of the rally. Of those, 72 people reported having attended a large gathering, according to The Progressive. However, people who tested positive were not asked specifically if they had attended the protest in Madison.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:34 pm
kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:25 pm

So I assume you’ve done none of those things. I wouldn’t either.

The article is describing you to a T, just like I can be called out for hypocrisy on some issues as well.

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It only makes me a hypocrite if I try to badger someone ELSE to do those things when I won’t do them myself. And BTW, your assumption (as usual) is wrong.
So how many of those 4 things have you done and where?
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:48 pm Possible 72 positive test from people participating in the Wisconsin protest.

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On Friday, the state Department of Health Services said there have been 1,986 confirmed cases since the weekend of the rally. Of those, 72 people reported having attended a large gathering, according to The Progressive. However, people who tested positive were not asked specifically if they had attended the protest in Madison.
Case counts are meaningless.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:09 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:48 pm Possible 72 positive test from people participating in the Wisconsin protest.

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On Friday, the state Department of Health Services said there have been 1,986 confirmed cases since the weekend of the rally. Of those, 72 people reported having attended a large gathering, according to The Progressive. However, people who tested positive were not asked specifically if they had attended the protest in Madison.
Case counts are meaningless.
I think traceable cases are important for studying the spread of the virus.
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kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:05 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:34 pm

It only makes me a hypocrite if I try to badger someone ELSE to do those things when I won’t do them myself. And BTW, your assumption (as usual) is wrong.
So how many of those 4 things have you done and where?
None of your business. Your assumption is wrong and I’ll leave it at that.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:09 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:48 pm Possible 72 positive test from people participating in the Wisconsin protest.

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On Friday, the state Department of Health Services said there have been 1,986 confirmed cases since the weekend of the rally. Of those, 72 people reported having attended a large gathering, according to The Progressive. However, people who tested positive were not asked specifically if they had attended the protest in Madison.
Case counts are meaningless.
Yeah.....

No.

They’re not everything but saying they’re meaningless is like saying this the flu.

Its like saying death counts are meaningless after locking down ad/or voluntary social distancing for 2 months.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:58 pm
kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:05 pm

So how many of those 4 things have you done and where?
None of your business. Your assumption is wrong and I’ll leave it at that.
So zero. Got it. :lol:
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kalm wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 9:01 pm
SDHornet wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:09 pm

Case counts are meaningless.
Yeah.....

No.

They’re not everything but saying they’re meaningless is like saying this the flu.

Its like saying death counts are meaningless after locking down ad/or voluntary social distancing for 2 months.
Yeah

no.

Death counts and cases in ICU matter. Everything else doesn't. We know the demographics of those highest at risk (old people and those with underlying health issues). Everyone else has a very small chance of dying from the Chinese Flu.


Time to open everything back up. :coffee:
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Testing numbers are up................that really the only number that has a chance of being accurate. All the other numbers are a pile of bullshit so big Pelosi and Schumer have taken note and are mildly impressed
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