The Great Social Media Political Fuckshow

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I forward all of the shit I know is a lie because people like Mangeoff suckle from the fountain of disintellect

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[kalm]

I get what you're saying. A personal referral is always better than a cold call. But folks that consistently give you shitty advice I would hope would be met with more skepticism. If I have a trusted source I am more likely to believe what they've sent. Like Gil used to be here.

I fully agree and follow the same practice.

But most people don't bother to double check things they hear/read, they blindly accept what they receive as input. Combine that with peoples short memories and you get the situation were misinformation is spread. Also take into account the fact that how many people know how/where to find unbiased information or take the time to research a particular bit of information to find out the truth? People tend to be lazy or prioritize other tasks, plus most of us have many things vying for our time and we can't fact check every bit of information that we are presented with. Which is why critical thinking is so huge, as it allows a person to bypass the things that are obviously false and concentrate only on the most important items or areas where one doesn't know as much.

People on this board already are outside of some of the normal patterns, mainly due to the amount of debating that goes on at any given time where any point/fact can and will be discussed.

This board is a solid kick to the nut(s) which I sincerely appreciate.

[CID1990]

I watched 30 seconds and based on a hunch but without fact checking suggested it was heavily edited and that he research it.

You watched all 30 seconds of a 23 second video?

The first 7 seconds was klam trying to figure out how to hit play on his infernal internet contraption thing


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[CID1990]

My wife and I were talking about this exact thing last night. Social media (or the internet in general) has basically created a "glitch" in the human psyche, in that we have the ability to be inundated with bad, false, misleading or dangerous info on an almost constant basis, with very little capability to determine which is real, which is true vs the designed misinformation campaigns.

It's like a global "mental illness", and there's no putting the genie back in the bottle....

The book "Enders Game" talked about the same phenomenon (with the brother still on Earth, not Ender actually). If you can dominate social media you wield a great deal of power, and not necessarily for the good.

That’s an excellent trilogy.

I thought they did a decent job with the movie - would like to see them try with the other two books but I doubt anyone will


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[SDHornet]

My wife and I were talking about this exact thing last night. Social media (or the internet in general) has basically created a "glitch" in the human psyche, in that we have the ability to be inundated with bad, false, misleading or dangerous info on an almost constant basis, with very little capability to determine which is real, which is true vs the designed misinformation campaigns.

It's like a global "mental illness", and there's no putting the genie back in the bottle....

The book "Enders Game" talked about the same phenomenon (with the brother still on Earth, not Ender actually). If you can dominate social media you wield a great deal of power, and not necessarily for the good.

Yup. Facebook just created a group that essentially sensors "fake" news. I wonder which side of the aisle will be impacted more....hhhmmmm....

[houndawg]

Traditional media at least has legal departments, ombudsman, and editors that (mostly) shut that shit down. That’s what makes Chuck Todd’s example all that more egregious.

What disappoints me is the how many educated and successful people like my friend are so easily duped.

That's what happens when you only watch one news source.

Try the BBC

[houndawg]

The book "Enders Game" talked about the same phenomenon (with the brother still on Earth, not Ender actually). If you can dominate social media you wield a great deal of power, and not necessarily for the good.

Yup. Facebook just created a group that essentially sensors "fake" news. I wonder which side of the aisle will be impacted more....hhhmmmm....

censors -verb

sensors - noun

[houndawg]

According to Snopes, it's been spliced from this

Leaders and dignitaries of the European Union; representatives of our NATO Alliance; distinguished guests: We meet here at a moment of testing for Europe and the United States, and for the international order that we have worked for generations to build.

Throughout human history, societies have grappled with fundamental questions of how to organize themselves, the proper relationship between the individual and the state, the best means to resolve inevitable conflicts between states. And it was here in Europe, through centuries of struggle — through war and Enlightenment, repression and revolution — that a particular set of ideals began to emerge: The belief that through conscience and free will, each of us has the right to live as we choose. The belief that power is derived from the consent of the governed, and that laws and institutions should be established to protect that understanding. And those ideas eventually inspired a band of colonialists across an ocean, and they wrote them into the founding documents that still guide America today, including the simple truth that all men — and women — are created equal.

But those ideals have also been tested — here in Europe and around the world. Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power. This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign. Often, this alternative vision roots itself in the notion that by virtue of race or faith or ethnicity, some are inherently superior to others, and that individual identity must be defined by “us” versus “them,” or that national greatness must flow not by what a people stand for, but by what they are against.

So thats where it came from - right now this quote is being spread around FB as having been said by Obama.

[houndawg]

The book "Enders Game" talked about the same phenomenon (with the brother still on Earth, not Ender actually). If you can dominate social media you wield a great deal of power, and not necessarily for the good.

That’s an excellent trilogy.

I thought they did a decent job with the movie - would like to see them try with the other two books but I doubt anyone will


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I meant to read the others way back in the day after reading Enders Game when it was serialized in Omni magazine. Orson Scott card is probably my favorite bigot after LBJ.

[CID1990]

That’s an excellent trilogy.

I thought they did a decent job with the movie - would like to see them try with the other two books but I doubt anyone will


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I meant to read the others way back in the day after reading Enders Game when it was serialized in Omni magazine. Orson Scott card is probably my favorite bigot after LBJ.

Let me spoil them for you...

Ender cryo-sleeps his way around the galaxy, as a “Speaker for the Dead”... a kind of galactic boomer, guilt ridden about what he did to the Buggers. He also finds a place for the Bugger Queen (who talks to him) to create her new hive.

There is also a really good story about an alien culture where the beings have two-phased lives... first as little pig looking animals, then as trees after they die

It is a grand epistle on cultural understanding

And it is high fiction because 99.693 percent of humans would never get it

[CID1990]

That’s an excellent trilogy.

I thought they did a decent job with the movie - would like to see them try with the other two books but I doubt anyone will


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I meant to read the others way back in the day after reading Enders Game when it was serialized in Omni magazine. Orson Scott card is probably my favorite bigot after LBJ.

Let me spoil them for you...

Ender cryo-sleeps his way around the galaxy, as a “Speaker for the Dead”... a kind of galactic boomer, guilt ridden train ride about what he did to the Buggers. He also finds a place for the Bugger Queen (who talks to him) to create her new hive.

There is also a really good story about an alien culture where the beings have two-phased lives... first as little pig looking animals, then as trees after they die

It is a grand epistle on cultural understanding

And it is high fiction because 99.693 percent of humans would never get it

[kalm]

You watched all 30 seconds of a 23 second video?

The first 7 seconds was klam trying to figure out how to hit play on his infernal internet contraption thing


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Like you figuring out how to not double post? ^^^^^^

[UNI88]

Yup. Facebook just created a group that essentially sensors "fake" news. I wonder which side of the aisle will be impacted more....hhhmmmm....

censors -verb

sensors - noun

sensitive - Houndie

It's good that you realize it.


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[CID1990]

The first 7 seconds was klam trying to figure out how to hit play on his infernal internet contraption thing


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Like you figuring out how to not double post? ^^^^^^

I hit “post” once

What the internetz does after that is up to the internetz

[AZGrizFan]

According to Snopes, it's been spliced from this

Leaders and dignitaries of the European Union; representatives of our NATO Alliance; distinguished guests: We meet here at a moment of testing for Europe and the United States, and for the international order that we have worked for generations to build.

Throughout human history, societies have grappled with fundamental questions of how to organize themselves, the proper relationship between the individual and the state, the best means to resolve inevitable conflicts between states. And it was here in Europe, through centuries of struggle — through war and Enlightenment, repression and revolution — that a particular set of ideals began to emerge: The belief that through conscience and free will, each of us has the right to live as we choose. The belief that power is derived from the consent of the governed, and that laws and institutions should be established to protect that understanding. And those ideas eventually inspired a band of colonialists across an ocean, and they wrote them into the founding documents that still guide America today, including the simple truth that all men — and women — are created equal.

But those ideals have also been tested — here in Europe and around the world. Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power. This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign. Often, this alternative vision roots itself in the notion that by virtue of race or faith or ethnicity, some are inherently superior to others, and that individual identity must be defined by “us” versus “them,” or that national greatness must flow not by what a people stand for, but by what they are against.

So thats where it came from - right now this quote is being spread around FB as having been said by Obama.

Um....I believe it WAS said by Obama. Just sentences edited and taken out of context....you know, like the MSM does virtually EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. to forward their agenda.

[houndawg]

Like you figuring out how to not double post? ^^^^^^

I hit “post” once

What the internetz does after that is up to the internetz

thought you had a mouse with a bump stock on it

[89Hen]

That's what happens when you only watch one news source.

Try the BBC

I like women thank you very much.

[SDHornet]

censors -verb

sensors - noun

sensitive - Houndie

It's good that you realize it.


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Somebody's got to be a grammar Nazi around here, may as well be the guy in Southern IL.

[Chizzang]

I hit “post” once

What the internetz does after that is up to the internetz

thought you had a mouse with a bump stock on it

The old dog gets a ton of shit around here but I find him pretty funny

[89Hen]

thought you had a mouse with a bump stock on it

The old dog gets a ton of shit around here but I find him pretty funny

He does have his moments.

[Ivytalk]

censors -verb

sensors - noun

sensitive - Houndie

It's good that you realize it.


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Houndawg is as sensitive as a goddam toilet seat.

What famous novel is that from? Most tenth graders at good schools can answer that question without Googling it.

[AshevilleApp]

It's good that you realize it.


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Houndawg is as sensitive as a goddam toilet seat.

What famous novel is that from? Most tenth graders at good schools can answer that question without Googling it.

Ooh! Ooh! Mr. Kotter! Mr. Kotter! I know! I know!

[UNI88]

It's good that you realize it.

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Houndawg is as sensitive as a goddam toilet seat.

What famous novel is that from? Most tenth graders at good schools can answer that question without Googling it.

* goddamn

Well, I'm not a tenth grader and I didn't go to a good goddamn school. I did read that book a long, long time ago but didn't remember that detail so I had to google it. And Houndawg isn't as sensitive as a goddamn toilet seat, he's as tough as a goddamn virus that is sitting on a gas station toilet seat. So thhhhbbbttt!

[kalm]

Houndawg is as sensitive as a goddam toilet seat.

What famous novel is that from? Most tenth graders at good schools can answer that question without Googling it.

* goddamn

Well, I'm not a tenth grader and I didn't go to a good goddamn school. I did read that book a long, long time ago but didn't remember that detail so I had to google it. And Houndawg isn't as sensitive as a goddamn toilet seat, he's as tough as a goddamn virus that is sitting on a gas station toilet seat. So thhhhbbbttt!

You went to the Harvard of the gawd damn Red Cedar River. Hold your head up high, man!

[Ivytalk]

* goddamn

Well, I'm not a tenth grader and I didn't go to a good goddamn school. I did read that book a long, long time ago but didn't remember that detail so I had to google it. And Houndawg isn't as sensitive as a goddamn toilet seat, he's as tough as a goddamn virus that is sitting on a gas station toilet seat. So thhhhbbbttt!

You went to the Harvard of the gawd damn Red Cedar River. Hold your head up high, man!

Did he get a tenth-grade education there?