Coronavirus COVID-19

[CID1990]

Young people and their concerns are legit. But they aren't parading some random teen up there. Greta is symbol. She's there for her work on climate change. Not b/c she's the average 17 yr old.

Exactly, she's one of the most (if not most) prominent voices of her generation. It makes sense to have her in a global town hall.

And here I was thinking it was the right that was at war with “experts”

Given the choice of expertise here I can see why

Maybe we can find an appropriately indoctrinated 18 year old SecState

Or head of NASA that’d be good


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[CAA Flagship]

Exactly, she's one of the most (if not most) prominent voices of her generation. It makes sense to have her in a global town hall.

And here I was thinking it was the right that was at war with “experts”

Given the choice of expertise here I can see why

Maybe we can find an appropriately indoctrinated 18 year old SecState

Or head of NASA that’d be good


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[UNI88]

Young people and their concerns are legit. But they aren't parading some random teen up there. Greta is symbol. She's there for her work on climate change. Not b/c she's the average 17 yr old.

She's there for the same reason why there's been this many posts about her being on there - she's a lightning rod and brings in viewers. The details and information don't matter - tv ratings do matter. That is all.

Sounds like a Kardashian to me.

[∞∞∞]

Exactly, she's one of the most (if not most) prominent voices of her generation. It makes sense to have her in a global town hall.

And here I was thinking it was the right that was at war with “experts”

Given the choice of expertise here I can see why

Maybe we can find an appropriately indoctrinated 18 year old SecState

Or head of NASA that’d be good


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Again, it's a town hall. Why is the format so difficult to understand?

No one from CNN (or the left) said she's an expert. She's a prominent, activist voice of her generation.

[CID1990]

And here I was thinking it was the right that was at war with “experts”

Given the choice of expertise here I can see why

Maybe we can find an appropriately indoctrinated 18 year old SecState

Or head of NASA that’d be good


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Again, it's a town hall. Why is the format so difficult to understand?

No one from CNN (or the left) said she's an expert.

She has nothing to add other than drama and huffing and puffing

She doesn’t even know what the Van Allen belts or the Ionosphere are

go follow half baked auto-didact children somewhere else


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[∞∞∞]

Again, it's a town hall. Why is the format so difficult to understand?

No one from CNN (or the left) said she's an expert.

She has nothing to add other than drama and huffing and puffing

She doesn’t even know what the Van Allen belts or the Ionosphere are

go follow half baked auto-didact children somewhere else

Dude, she's a 17yo activist, not a f*cking scientist.

The role of activism is to make an emotional and moral case for a cause, in a simple manner which reaches more people.

She's succeeding. And way too many adults (like this forum) are hilariously uncomfortable with this young woman.

[GannonFan]

She has nothing to add other than drama and huffing and puffing

She doesn’t even know what the Van Allen belts or the Ionosphere are

go follow half baked auto-didact children somewhere else

Dude, she's a 17yo activist, not a f*cking scientist.

The role of activism is to make an emotional and moral case for a cause, in a simple manner which reaches more people.

She's succeeding. And way too many adults (like this forum) are hilariously uncomfortable with this young woman.

Again, that's why she's there - it will translate to viewers, both for and against her. Lightning rods attract lightning, and the brief part of this thread from this morning demonstrates that.

[AZGrizFan]

And here I was thinking it was the right that was at war with “experts”

Given the choice of expertise here I can see why

Maybe we can find an appropriately indoctrinated 18 year old SecState

Or head of NASA that’d be good


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Again, it's a town hall. Why is the format so difficult to understand?

No one from CNN (or the left) said she's an expert. She's a prominent, activist voice of her generation.

so any activist will do, eh?

[kalm]

Again, it's a town hall. Why is the format so difficult to understand?

No one from CNN (or the left) said she's an expert. She's a prominent, activist voice of her generation.

so any activist will do, eh?

Pretty much. It’s CNN. It’s infotainment. Think a left equivalent of a slightly less mature Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson.

[89Hen]

Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson.

Ben is nowhere close to a Tucker. You should have used Hannity or Ingraham.

[AZGrizFan]

so any activist will do, eh?

Pretty much. It’s CNN. It’s infotainment. Think a left equivalent of a slightly less mature Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson.

More like a left equivalent of this guy:

[SDHornet]

Go back to where? Not diminishing your points here, but we seem to be about as far off from herd immunity numbers as total testing. And that’s assuming we know all there is to know about herd immunity not to mention the long term health effects of survivors and those related economic costs.

Wrong choice of words - not go back, but go forward with what we know. We know that we're not going to have any of those questions answered that you're asking - herd immunity, long term health effects, etc. Even what we knew previously has been altered or disproven as we learn more. That's going to keep happening going forward. We've only had this virus around for 4-5 months, it's going to take a lot longer than that to perfect our understanding of it.

The go forward is that we can't just sit around and pretend that we will perfect our understanding of it anytime soon. We know the precautions that need to be taken to minimize the threat - implement those now everywhere and move on. Any business should be open, any school should be open, etc. Heck, I'd even put people back into stadiums, with plenty of precautions in place. That's the new normal going forward, so pretending that we're going to have all of the answers with a few more weeks is disingenuous. Lay out the precautions that need to be in place and move forward.

Nailed it with your last 2 posts, and it's what I've been harping on. Nothing will change until treatments/vaccines are developed. Nothing. It's long past time to open everything up, with the proper protocols in place of course. Any other stance than that is a de facto "stay shutdown until a vaccine" stance.

[kalm]

Pretty much. It’s CNN. It’s infotainment. Think a left equivalent of a slightly less mature Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson.

More like a left equivalent of this guy:

I actually thought about him after I posted.

[kalm]

Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson.

Ben is nowhere close to a Tucker. You should have used Hannity or Ingraham.

The reason I used the first two is they’re youthful in appearance and/or voice and at least attempt sometimes to shift thinking beyond a partisan hack level by mumbling freedom and taking a contrarian view against the establishment.

[kalm]

Wrong choice of words - not go back, but go forward with what we know. We know that we're not going to have any of those questions answered that you're asking - herd immunity, long term health effects, etc. Even what we knew previously has been altered or disproven as we learn more. That's going to keep happening going forward. We've only had this virus around for 4-5 months, it's going to take a lot longer than that to perfect our understanding of it.

The go forward is that we can't just sit around and pretend that we will perfect our understanding of it anytime soon. We know the precautions that need to be taken to minimize the threat - implement those now everywhere and move on. Any business should be open, any school should be open, etc. Heck, I'd even put people back into stadiums, with plenty of precautions in place. That's the new normal going forward, so pretending that we're going to have all of the answers with a few more weeks is disingenuous. Lay out the precautions that need to be in place and move forward.

Nailed it with your last 2 posts, and it's what I've been harping on. Nothing will change until treatments/vaccines are developed. Nothing. It's long past time to open everything up, with the proper protocols in place of course. Any other stance than that is a de facto "stay shutdown until a vaccine" stance.

Nothing will change is as vapid as wishing to go back (which Ganny gracefully corrected)

Things are changing daily whether it’s relaxing of restrictions and reopenings to better scientific understanding.

The argument has always been about risk tolerance of the disease within an economic framework.

The all or nothing or fuck it approach is what I take it issue with.

[89Hen]

Ben is nowhere close to a Tucker. You should have used Hannity or Ingraham.

The reason I used the first two is they’re youthful in appearance and/or voice and at least attempt sometimes to shift thinking beyond a partisan hack level by mumbling freedom and taking a contrarian view against the establishment.

I disagree. I'm no fan of Tucker, but I am a big fan of Shapiro.

[kalm]

The reason I used the first two is they’re youthful in appearance and/or voice and at least attempt sometimes to shift thinking beyond a partisan hack level by mumbling freedom and taking a contrarian view against the establishment.

I disagree. I'm no fan of Tucker, but I am a big fan of Shapiro.

I’m sorry.

Actually, I’ve listened to Shapiro numerous times and like I said he sometimes makes some valid points but he can also be wildly illogical...especially when it comes to religion.

[GannonFan]

Nailed it with your last 2 posts, and it's what I've been harping on. Nothing will change until treatments/vaccines are developed. Nothing. It's long past time to open everything up, with the proper protocols in place of course. Any other stance than that is a de facto "stay shutdown until a vaccine" stance.

Nothing will change is as vapid as wishing to go back (which Ganny gracefully corrected)

Things are changing daily whether it’s relaxing of restrictions and reopenings to better scientific understanding.

The argument has always been about risk tolerance of the disease within an economic framework.

The all or nothing or fuck it approach is what I take it issue with.

Other than some whackos toting weapons and marching in groups of a 100 people strong, maybe, on state capitols, does anyone truly tout the all or nothing idea of opening things up with no restrictions (no masks, no checks, no cleanings, just head back out there)? And I'd argue that we give voice to that small minority of whackos by governors and others who don't take the practical and logical steps to move forward that are already out there. When you tout "let's listen to science" and then do things that don't agree with the science, you're undermining your own message and letting the whackos with the guns get a foot in the door.

Over in Jersey we had signs on the beaches last weekend that allowed surfing but forbade swimming. Yeah, I know, less people surf (or what amounts to surfing on the east coast) than swim so you'd get less crowds, but that's not how the message went out. It just sounded like the governor (Murphy in this case) said surfing was safe but swimming wasn't. That just sounds dumb. And you still have to deal with the image that you've let Walmart be in business throughout this whole thing while smaller businesses that do or sell things very similar to Walmart couldn't be open. And even on top of that, in PA, like other states, "life-essential" businesses have been open the whole time while those not having that classification haven't. What made the list for life-essential, however, was far and wide, especially if you had connections and needed to lobby for it. And in the end, some people have been working right through all of this just taking the measures and precautions that we'll adopt everywhere in just a few weeks. Hopefully we'll get that chance.

The more we stubbornly cling to the notion that we can't open up, or that advocating opening up goes against science, for whatever "science" is supposed to mean in that argument, the more we embolden recklessness by those who are frustrated that those making decisions are weakening their own credibility with capricious and arbitrary decision making.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

And here I was thinking it was the right that was at war with “experts”

Given the choice of expertise here I can see why

Maybe we can find an appropriately indoctrinated 18 year old SecState

Or head of NASA that’d be good


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Again, it's a town hall. Why is the format so difficult to understand?

No one from CNN (or the left) said she's an expert. She's a prominent, activist voice of her generation.

She's a voice of CNN not her generation.

She's a retard

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[Ibanez]

And here I was thinking it was the right that was at war with “experts”

Given the choice of expertise here I can see why

Maybe we can find an appropriately indoctrinated 18 year old SecState

Or head of NASA that’d be good


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Again, it's a town hall. Why is the format so difficult to understand?

No one from CNN (or the left) said she's an expert. She's a prominent, activist voice of her generation.

A town hall is a discussion with experts on an issue (or range of issue). You have experts for that. Not amateurs. Regardless of the format, do you think CNN would have a town hall, interview, debate with people that have no education, no training, no experience doing something.

"Stay Tuned for an expose by a newborn on what it's like growing up during a pandemic." give me a break.

[Ibanez]

The reason I used the first two is they’re youthful in appearance and/or voice and at least attempt sometimes to shift thinking beyond a partisan hack level by mumbling freedom and taking a contrarian view against the establishment.

I disagree. I'm no fan of Tucker, but I am a big fan of Shapiro.

I'm not a fan of either but i'll listen to Shapiro over Tucker. Shapiro seems to at least try to use logic and reason.

[Baldy]

Let this sink in for a moment...CNN is going to have a Corona virus townhall, and one of their four experts is...

[Gil Dobie]

Let this sink in for a moment...CNN is going to have a Corona virus townhall, and one of their four experts is...

The are looking into Facts and Fears.

[kalm]

Let this sink in for a moment...CNN is going to have a Corona virus townhall, and one of their four experts is...

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I would like to grab Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson by the head and smash their faces together so hard that shit would leach out of their skull cavities.

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