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dbackjon wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:28 am
Chizzang wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:24 am seems like a legit point of discussion to me...

:nod:

Businesses should be allowed to refuse service
based on a few simple guidelines - gay wedding cakes included
There is a huge difference between requiring a mask vs discrimination based on race/sexual orientation/gender.

You can put on a mask, and take it off. No harm, no foul. You can't change your gender/race/sexual orientation. This are actually pretty insulting comparisons. And of course it is easy for straight, white males that have never been discriminated against to pontificate about discrimination.
Can anyone actually discriminate against gender these days? Impossible to tell if somebody adheres to a particular gender.
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dbackjon wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:28 am
Chizzang wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:24 am seems like a legit point of discussion to me...

:nod:

Businesses should be allowed to refuse service
based on a few simple guidelines - gay wedding cakes included
There is a huge difference between requiring a mask vs discrimination based on race/sexual orientation/gender.

You can put on a mask, and take it off. No harm, no foul. You can't change your gender/race/sexual orientation. This are actually pretty insulting comparisons. And of course it is easy for straight, white males that have never been discriminated against to pontificate about discrimination.
Are you kidding? Straight white males — especially older ones— are regularly discriminated against by the Left. :ohno:
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dbackjon wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:28 am
Chizzang wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:24 am seems like a legit point of discussion to me...

:nod:

Businesses should be allowed to refuse service
based on a few simple guidelines - gay wedding cakes included
There is a huge difference between requiring a mask vs discrimination based on race/sexual orientation/gender.

You can put on a mask, and take it off. No harm, no foul. You can't change your gender/race/sexual orientation. This are actually pretty insulting comparisons. And of course, it is easy for straight, white males that have never been discriminated against to pontificate about discrimination.
Settle down mister grumpy pants...
this is a worthy topic and a powerful line of demarcation that divides a huge segment of American society today

I have reaped the benefits of being straight white and male
as well as being healthy, not deformed or disabled in any way other than being "emotionally handicapped"
depending on who you talk to

AZ and Ivy (The banker and the lawyer) will explain how awful its been in America for them being white and male and all

I'll let them take it from here: Go ! AZ
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Chizzang wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 10:27 am
dbackjon wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:28 am
There is a huge difference between requiring a mask vs discrimination based on race/sexual orientation/gender.

You can put on a mask, and take it off. No harm, no foul. You can't change your gender/race/sexual orientation. This are actually pretty insulting comparisons. And of course, it is easy for straight, white males that have never been discriminated against to pontificate about discrimination.
Settle down mister grumpy pants...
this is a worthy topic and a powerful line of demarcation that divides a huge segment of American society today

I have reaped the benefits of being straight white and male
as well as being healthy, not deformed or disabled in any way other than being "emotionally handicapped"
depending on who you talk to

AZ and Ivy (The banker and the lawyer) will explain how awful its been in America for them being white and male and all

I'll let them take it from here: Go ! AZ
Are you saying that straight, white males can't be discriminated against?

I once applied for a job with an organization where the leadership were all minorities and the majority of the employees were African-American and Latinos made up the 2nd highest number. I didn't see a single white employee while I was in their office. I could sense during the interview process that the leadership was uncomfortable with me. I don't know for sure but it is possible that I was discriminated against.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:16 am
Chizzang wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 10:27 am

Settle down mister grumpy pants...
this is a worthy topic and a powerful line of demarcation that divides a huge segment of American society today

I have reaped the benefits of being straight white and male
as well as being healthy, not deformed or disabled in any way other than being "emotionally handicapped"
depending on who you talk to

AZ and Ivy (The banker and the lawyer) will explain how awful its been in America for them being white and male and all

I'll let them take it from here: Go ! AZ
Are you saying that straight, white males can't be discriminated against?

I once applied for a job with an organization where the leadership were all minorities and the majority of the employees were African-American and Latinos made up the 2nd highest number. I didn't see a single white employee while I was in their office. I could sense during the interview process that the leadership was uncomfortable with me. I don't know for sure but it is possible that I was discriminated against.
um... no sir
I think affirmative action proves that out

What I'm saying is something like:
If you're a straight white male in America and you're complaining that you have it tough because of discrimination...
you might be missing the bigger picture

Kinda like Christians claiming "persecution" here in America

Virtually every door has been kicked wide open for these two groups
occasionally there will be an obstacle - very occasionally
at that point crying foul that 100% of all doors haven't been absolutely blown off their hinges for you
seems a little myopic
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Chizzang wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:22 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:16 am

Are you saying that straight, white males can't be discriminated against?

I once applied for a job with an organization where the leadership were all minorities and the majority of the employees were African-American and Latinos made up the 2nd highest number. I didn't see a single white employee while I was in their office. I could sense during the interview process that the leadership was uncomfortable with me. I don't know for sure but it is possible that I was discriminated against.
um... no sir
I think affirmative action proves that out

What I'm saying is something like:
If you're a straight white male in America and you're complaining that you have it tough because of discrimination...
you might be missing the bigger picture

Kinda like Christians claiming "persecution" here in America

Virtually every door has been kicked wide open for these two groups
occasionally there will be an obstacle - very occasionally
at that point crying foul that 100% of all doors haven't been absolutely blown off their hinges for you
seems a little myopic
‘I’m not saying that straight white males are better. I’m saying BEING a straight white male is clearly better! Seriously...if you’re not a SWM you are missing out because this shit is thoroughly good!’
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FWIW, had my son checked the box for Hispanic (he's more Hispanic than Warren is Native American) he would have gotten in to every school to which he applied and probably had most of his tuition covered.
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Chizzang wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:22 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:16 am
Are you saying that straight, white males can't be discriminated against?

I once applied for a job with an organization where the leadership were all minorities and the majority of the employees were African-American and Latinos made up the 2nd highest number. I didn't see a single white employee while I was in their office. I could sense during the interview process that the leadership was uncomfortable with me. I don't know for sure but it is possible that I was discriminated against.
um... no sir
I think affirmative action proves that out

What I'm saying is something like:
If you're a straight white male in America and you're complaining that you have it tough because of discrimination...
you might be missing the bigger picture

Kinda like Christians claiming "persecution" here in America

Virtually every door has been kicked wide open for these two groups
occasionally there will be an obstacle - very occasionally
at that point crying foul that 100% of all doors haven't been absolutely blown off their hinges for you
seems a little myopic
I think the playing field has leveled somewhat. I might have started on 1st base because of advantages that my parents and grandparents enjoyed but those advantages were less of a factor for me in my career and are/will be even less so for my kids. My first job out of college was with a Fortune 500 company where I did reasonably well but they wanted to improve their management diversity so they sought out and promoted minorities and females who had achieved less than me. I'm not saying this to b!tch, I understand that they were trying to make up for the past when the playing field wasn't level and someone had to pay the price. My two sons did well in high school and got into good colleges with good financial aid packages but if they were female and/or minority they would have gotten into even better colleges and gotten even better financial aid packages.

I don't think it's because of discrimination but being a white male is far from the golden ticket that it used to be.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:42 am
Chizzang wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:22 am

um... no sir
I think affirmative action proves that out

What I'm saying is something like:
If you're a straight white male in America and you're complaining that you have it tough because of discrimination...
you might be missing the bigger picture

Kinda like Christians claiming "persecution" here in America

Virtually every door has been kicked wide open for these two groups
occasionally there will be an obstacle - very occasionally
at that point crying foul that 100% of all doors haven't been absolutely blown off their hinges for you
seems a little myopic
I think the playing field has leveled somewhat. I might have started on 1st base because of advantages that my parents and grandparents enjoyed but those advantages were less of a factor for me in my career and are/will be even less so for my kids. My first job out of college was with a Fortune 500 company where I did reasonably well but they wanted to improve their management diversity so they sought out and promoted minorities and females who had achieved less than me. I'm not saying this to b!tch, I understand that they were trying to make up for the past when the playing field wasn't level and someone had to pay the price. My two sons did well in high school and got into good colleges with good financial aid packages but if they were female and/or minority they would have gotten into even better colleges and gotten even better financial aid packages.

I don't think it's because of discrimination but being a white male is far from the golden ticket that it used to be.
No doubt...

:nod:

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89Hen wrote:
dbackjon wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:28 am There is a huge difference between requiring a mask vs discrimination based on race/sexual orientation/gender.

You can put on a mask, and take it off. No harm, no foul. You can't change your gender/race/sexual orientation. This are actually pretty insulting comparisons. And of course it is easy for straight, white males that have never been discriminated against to pontificate about discrimination.
Can anyone actually discriminate against gender these days? Impossible to tell if somebody adheres to a particular gender.
Especially when we’re told that gender is a human construct that doesn’t really exist - which allows for the “gender fluid”.



Or something batshit crazy like that


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Ibanez wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 12:57 pm
89Hen wrote: Can anyone actually discriminate against gender these days? Impossible to tell if somebody adheres to a particular gender.
Especially when we’re told that gender is a human construct that doesn’t really exist - which allows for the “gender fluid”.



Or something batshit crazy like that


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Pretty sure gender is (at least mostly) a human construct and it I think it’s safe to acknowledge it can in fact be fluid.

And you know what? I don’t care.

“I don’t care” is simultaneously the best and worst thing you can to say people who are emotionally passionate about a subject and how they would prefer society deals with it.

Try it on for size...

“America is a Christian nation!” I don’t care.
“I’m gay!” I don’t care
“Lincoln was a tyrant!” I don’t care.
“I’m ________race!” I don’t care.
“Artificial turf should be green!” I don’t care.

I had a meeting with married gay woman over some legal issues awhile back. At one point she semi-apologetically pointed out her sexual orientation and started down the ‘associating with her might hurt my reputation road. I cut her off and said “I don’t care”

She said “thank you for that.”
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Artificial turf IS GREEN motherfucker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 1:27 pm Pretty sure gender is (at least mostly) a human construct and it I think it’s safe to acknowledge it can in fact be fluid.

And you know what? I don’t care.
Bully for you. :coffee: If you reply, you do care.

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:07 am I don't disagree on the gay wedding cakes.

Discrimination by sexual orientation is legal because it wasn't included in the Civil Rights Act. I think it should be updated, but it's not.
So the intent of the Civil Rights Act is to permit "activists" to bring spurious (and expensive) lawsuits against business owners who are doing nothing more than exercising their constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion? Is it really the government's prerogative to penalize the free exercise of religion after guaranteeing the protection of the free exercise of religion in the Constitution?

I'd like to see those fags pull this crap in a bakery owned by Muslims.
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kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 1:27 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 12:57 pm
Especially when we’re told that gender is a human construct that doesn’t really exist - which allows for the “gender fluid”.



Or something batshit crazy like that


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Pretty sure gender is (at least mostly) a human construct and it I think it’s safe to acknowledge it can in fact be fluid.
Pretty sure it's a chromosomal construct.
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89Hen wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 2:01 pm
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 1:27 pm Pretty sure gender is (at least mostly) a human construct and it I think it’s safe to acknowledge it can in fact be fluid.

And you know what? I don’t care.
Bully for you. :coffee: If you reply, you do care.

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CitadelGrad wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 2:10 pm
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 1:27 pm

Pretty sure gender is (at least mostly) a human construct and it I think it’s safe to acknowledge it can in fact be fluid.
Pretty sure it's a chromosomal construct.
You’re confusing sociocultural definitions with parts. Unless transsexuals and not to mention sex changes and hormone therapies don’t exist, you’re wrong on both the biological and identity rights part. Gender is factually fluid unless you want to look under skirts and search for chromosomes. Suck it!

Again. I don’t care. :lol:
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kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 2:14 pm I’m sorry this one stings for you a little. I do care about you, 89.
How can it sting when I think you're wrong on both counts? :suspicious:
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kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 1:27 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 12:57 pm
Especially when we’re told that gender is a human construct that doesn’t really exist - which allows for the “gender fluid”.

Or something batshit crazy like that

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Pretty sure gender is (at least mostly) a human construct and it I think it’s safe to acknowledge it can in fact be fluid.

And you know what? I don’t care.

“I don’t care” is simultaneously the best and worst thing you can to say people who are emotionally passionate about a subject and how they would prefer society deals with it.

Try it on for size...

“America is a Christian nation!” I don’t care.
“I’m gay!” I don’t care
“Lincoln was a tyrant!” I don’t care.
“I’m ________race!” I don’t care.
“Artificial turf should be green!” I don’t care.

I had a meeting with married gay woman over some legal issues awhile back. At one point she semi-apologetically pointed out her sexual orientation and started down the ‘associating with her might hurt my reputation road. I cut her off and said “I don’t care”

She said “thank you for that.”
Is gender a human construct or is gender identity a human construct? I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people are born biologically male or female. Someone's gender doesn't change if I "look under skirts and search for chromosomes." Their gender identity "can in fact be fluid" and I don't have a problem with that if it helps them feel right about themselves. People should feel comfortable being themselves.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:19 pm
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 1:27 pm

Pretty sure gender is (at least mostly) a human construct and it I think it’s safe to acknowledge it can in fact be fluid.

And you know what? I don’t care.

“I don’t care” is simultaneously the best and worst thing you can to say people who are emotionally passionate about a subject and how they would prefer society deals with it.

Try it on for size...

“America is a Christian nation!” I don’t care.
“I’m gay!” I don’t care
“Lincoln was a tyrant!” I don’t care.
“I’m ________race!” I don’t care.
“Artificial turf should be green!” I don’t care.

I had a meeting with married gay woman over some legal issues awhile back. At one point she semi-apologetically pointed out her sexual orientation and started down the ‘associating with her might hurt my reputation road. I cut her off and said “I don’t care”

She said “thank you for that.”
Is gender a human construct or is gender identity a human construct? I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people are born biologically male or female. Someone's gender doesn't change if I "look under skirts and search for chromosomes." Their gender identity "can in fact be fluid" and I don't have a problem with that if it helps them feel right about themselves. People should feel comfortable being themselves.
I think what you mean by "gender identity" is gender and what you mean by "gender" is sex.

Sex is biological, gender is cultural.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:22 pm Sex is biological, gender is cultural.
And by cultural, you mean what we accept as the truth as a culture. A person with a penis is not female nor a woman. That is culturally true.

FTR, I don't care what somebody calls themselves. It's only when we are forced to ignore cultural norms that it becomes a problem. It really is no difference than me wanting to be called a unicorn.
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89Hen wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:37 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:22 pm Sex is biological, gender is cultural.
And by cultural, you mean what we accept as the truth as a culture. A person with a penis is not female nor a woman. That is culturally true.

FTR, I don't care what somebody calls themselves. It's only when we are forced to ignore cultural norms that it becomes a problem. It really is no difference than me wanting to be called a unicorn.
A person who identifies female, or pan sexual, or trans sexual or whatever the hell they call it is free to do so within our culture and I don’t need to know if they have a penis. Hence...I don’t care.

See the difference?

(Meant for both you and ‘88)
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:22 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:19 pm
Is gender a human construct or is gender identity a human construct? I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people are born biologically male or female. Someone's gender doesn't change if I "look under skirts and search for chromosomes." Their gender identity "can in fact be fluid" and I don't have a problem with that if it helps them feel right about themselves. People should feel comfortable being themselves.
I think what you mean by "gender identity" is gender and what you mean by "gender" is sex.

Sex is biological, gender is cultural.
What if I think of sex and gender as essentially interchangeable and have chosen to use gender identity as the qualifier that allows for fluidity? Are you telling me that I have to change my definitions to fit with what others in society think is right?
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kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:46 pm
89Hen wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 4:37 pm

And by cultural, you mean what we accept as the truth as a culture. A person with a penis is not female nor a woman. That is culturally true.

FTR, I don't care what somebody calls themselves. It's only when we are forced to ignore cultural norms that it becomes a problem. It really is no difference than me wanting to be called a unicorn.
A person who identifies female, or pan sexual, or trans sexual or whatever the hell they call it is free to do so within our culture and I don’t need to know if they have a penis. Hence...I don’t care.

See the difference?

(Meant for both you and ‘88)
And I'm free to want to be called a unicorn. You're a tool on this topic.
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