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CID1990 wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 8:41 pm
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I think whats-his-name from SC that saved Biden's ass in the primary gets to pick the VP.
Clyburn is not picking the VP because he would go with the romance novel author from GA and she’s already a proven loser

At this point in time I think Klobuchar’s star is rising... which is surprising to me, but there it is

BTW- Clyburn didn’t save Biden in SC. That primary vote was written in stone


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Like I said here long ago: she's a work horse among show ponies and would be a shoe-in if she weren't white.

Clyburn may not pick the VP but I can't believe he won't have huge input.
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CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote: fucker is already drooling in his porridge.


I think whats-his-name from SC that saved Biden's ass in the primary gets to pick the VP.
Clyburn is not picking the VP because he would go with the romance novel author from GA and she’s already a proven loser

At this point in time I think Klobuchar’s star is rising... which is surprising to me, but there it is

BTW- Clyburn didn’t save Biden in SC. That primary vote was written in stone


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Not for nothing but exit polls and interviews following the S.C. primary did have a lot of blacks saying they made their decision following Clyburns announcement.


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CID1990 wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 8:41 pm
houndawg wrote:
fucker is already drooling in his porridge.


I think whats-his-name from SC that saved Biden's ass in the primary gets to pick the VP.
Clyburn is not picking the VP because he would go with the romance novel author from GA and she’s already a proven loser

At this point in time I think Klobuchar’s star is rising... which is surprising to me, but there it is

BTW- Clyburn didn’t save Biden in SC. That primary vote was written in stone


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I posted this in the Biden gaffe thread, but I guess it belongs here instead. Here is Biden not asking Abrams to be VP on national TV, and you can see her soul crushed in real time. If she was going to be ask to run as VP, it would have happened here.

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SDHornet wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:11 pm If she was going to be ask to run as VP, it would have happened here.
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No... Has a POTUS candidate ever randomly popped the VP question during an interview?

I suppose there's a first for everything... but, if Biden made his announcement off the cuff on a 10 pm ecbt show... I'd be more worried about dementia.
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CID1990 wrote: Sat May 23, 2020 8:41 pm
Clyburn is not picking the VP because he would go with the romance novel author from GA and she’s already a proven loser

At this point in time I think Klobuchar’s star is rising... which is surprising to me, but there it is

BTW- Clyburn didn’t save Biden in SC. That primary vote was written in stone


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I posted this in the Biden gaffe thread, but I guess it belongs here instead. Here is Biden not asking Abrams to be VP on national TV, and you can see her soul crushed in real time. If she was going to be ask to run as VP, it would have happened here.

I was sure she was out, but the Biden campaign may need to go into pander mode for the black vote

I ultimately think that the VP pick needs to be an acceptable President, and Klobuchar runs away with that one

Even Kamala Harris is more qualified than Abrams


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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:46 pm
SDHornet wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 6:11 pm If she was going to be ask to run as VP, it would have happened here.
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No... Has a POTUS candidate ever randomly popped the VP question during an interview?

I suppose there's a first for everything... but, if Biden made his announcement off the cuff on a 10 pm ecbt show... I'd be more worried about dementia.
If he's desperate enough to cover for his racist gaffe, then sure.
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CID1990 wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 7:04 pm
SDHornet wrote:
I posted this in the Biden gaffe thread, but I guess it belongs here instead. Here is Biden not asking Abrams to be VP on national TV, and you can see her soul crushed in real time. If she was going to be ask to run as VP, it would have happened here.

I was sure she was out, but the Biden campaign may need to go into pander mode for the black vote

I ultimately think that the VP pick needs to be an acceptable President, and Klobuchar runs away with that one

Even Kamala Harris is more qualified than Abrams


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Yeah but Kamala doesn't deliver the black vote, Abrams would do a better job at that.

And agree with you on Klobachar. People should consider that Biden's VP will essentially be running everything once his dimentia fully sets in.
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CID1990 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: I posted this in the Biden gaffe thread, but I guess it belongs here instead. Here is Biden not asking Abrams to be VP on national TV, and you can see her soul crushed in real time. If she was going to be ask to run as VP, it would have happened here.

I was sure she was out, but the Biden campaign may need to go into pander mode for the black vote

I ultimately think that the VP pick needs to be an acceptable President, and Klobuchar runs away with that one

Even Kamala Harris is more qualified than Abrams


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Kwadgo Campbell is more qualified.


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SDHornet wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 7:08 pm
CID1990 wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 7:04 pm
I was sure she was out, but the Biden campaign may need to go into pander mode for the black vote

I ultimately think that the VP pick needs to be an acceptable President, and Klobuchar runs away with that one

Even Kamala Harris is more qualified than Abrams

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Yeah but Kamala doesn't deliver the black vote, Abrams would do a better job at that.

And agree with you on Klobachar. People should consider that Biden's VP will essentially be running everything once his dimentia fully sets in.
Is Kamala black enough? Will her history as a prosecutor and mixed-race background keep her from energizing the African American vote? Abrahms might energize the the African American vote but will she cost Biden blue-collar Democrats in Wisconsin and Michigan or Latinos in Nevada or Arizona?

Biden really needed to energize the African American vote on his own so he could pick a VP that could help him in battleground states and with the gravitas to give people the confidence they could step up to the job if needed.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 8:13 pm
SDHornet wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 7:08 pm

Yeah but Kamala doesn't deliver the black vote, Abrams would do a better job at that.

And agree with you on Klobachar. People should consider that Biden's VP will essentially be running everything once his dimentia fully sets in.
Is Kamala black enough? Will her history as a prosecutor and mixed-race background keep her from energizing the African American vote? Abrahms might energize the the African American vote but will she cost Biden blue-collar Democrats in Wisconsin and Michigan or Latinos in Nevada or Arizona?

Biden really needed to energize the African American vote on his own so he could pick a VP that could help him in battleground states and with the gravitas to give people the confidence they could step up to the job if needed.
They’d be dumb to go the subversive route at this point with the polling numbers in their favor. Trump is in trouble.
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I hope Klobuchar is the pick. Her stances and policy's as a prosecutor are going to be hard to sweep away, especially to the AA vote. She has the same problem that Kamala Harris has/had.

She will bring the votes of the Twin Cites (not exactly a stellar quality considering all it takes to win there is a D by ones name) and probably the Iron Range in Minnesota but not much else of the state will be voting for her. Outside of a couple of groups she is not well liked.

That said, she is probably the best bet for Biden left.
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Winterborn wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 6:01 am I hope Klobuchar is the pick. Her stances and policy's as a prosecutor are going to be hard to sweep away, especially to the AA vote. She has the same problem that Kamala Harris has/had.

She will bring the votes of the Twin Cites (not exactly a stellar quality considering all it takes to win there is a D by ones name) and probably the Iron Range in Minnesota but not much else of the state will be voting for her. Outside of a couple of groups she is not well liked.

That said, she is probably the best bet for Biden left.
In all seriousness, it really comes down to which one has the most pleasant hair to sniff, doesn’t it?
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kalm wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 6:45 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 6:01 am I hope Klobuchar is the pick. Her stances and policy's as a prosecutor are going to be hard to sweep away, especially to the AA vote. She has the same problem that Kamala Harris has/had.

She will bring the votes of the Twin Cites (not exactly a stellar quality considering all it takes to win there is a D by ones name) and probably the Iron Range in Minnesota but not much else of the state will be voting for her. Outside of a couple of groups she is not well liked.

That said, she is probably the best bet for Biden left.
In all seriousness, it really comes down to which one has the most pleasant hair to sniff, doesn’t it?
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kalm wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 6:45 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 6:01 am I hope Klobuchar is the pick. Her stances and policy's as a prosecutor are going to be hard to sweep away, especially to the AA vote. She has the same problem that Kamala Harris has/had.

She will bring the votes of the Twin Cites (not exactly a stellar quality considering all it takes to win there is a D by ones name) and probably the Iron Range in Minnesota but not much else of the state will be voting for her. Outside of a couple of groups she is not well liked.

That said, she is probably the best bet for Biden left.
In all seriousness, it really comes down to which one has the most pleasant hair to sniff, doesn’t it?
And the correct height for resting ones hands on their shoulders.
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Winterborn wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 6:01 am I hope Klobuchar is the pick. Her stances and policy's as a prosecutor are going to be hard to sweep away, especially to the AA vote. She has the same problem that Kamala Harris has/had.

She will bring the votes of the Twin Cites (not exactly a stellar quality considering all it takes to win there is a D by ones name) and probably the Iron Range in Minnesota but not much else of the state will be voting for her. Outside of a couple of groups she is not well liked.

That said, she is probably the best bet for Biden left.
Is MN really in play? Isn't it a solid blue state? I mean if Biden needs Kloduchar to bolster MN, that's not a good sign.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:13 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 6:01 am I hope Klobuchar is the pick. Her stances and policy's as a prosecutor are going to be hard to sweep away, especially to the AA vote. She has the same problem that Kamala Harris has/had.

She will bring the votes of the Twin Cites (not exactly a stellar quality considering all it takes to win there is a D by ones name) and probably the Iron Range in Minnesota but not much else of the state will be voting for her. Outside of a couple of groups she is not well liked.

That said, she is probably the best bet for Biden left.
Is MN really in play? Isn't it a solid blue state? I mean if Biden needs Kloduchar to bolster MN, that's not a good sign.
It is for the most part solid blue, completely due to the Twin Cities population (the Iron Range used to be solid blue but that has steadily eroded the past couple of decades and is more purplish now). The rest of the state (rural) is red.

He will carry MN but that is only due to the voting block of the Twin Cities. In the last election Minnesota voted the most Republican since 1952, it also has the largest turnout out at 75%.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:13 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 6:01 am I hope Klobuchar is the pick. Her stances and policy's as a prosecutor are going to be hard to sweep away, especially to the AA vote. She has the same problem that Kamala Harris has/had.

She will bring the votes of the Twin Cites (not exactly a stellar quality considering all it takes to win there is a D by ones name) and probably the Iron Range in Minnesota but not much else of the state will be voting for her. Outside of a couple of groups she is not well liked.

That said, she is probably the best bet for Biden left.
Is MN really in play? Isn't it a solid blue state? I mean if Biden needs Kloduchar to bolster MN, that's not a good sign.
He wouldn't be picking her to bolster MN, he's picking her for President. He has to be careful, he needs Berners and blacks to turn out in big numbers
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The Dems will invoke the 25th Amendment on Biden before his term is over, if he doesn't die first. Optimally they'll wait 2 years, until his term doesn't count against the VP taking over, but does give her the advantage of running as an incumbent and be able to serve 2 full terms of her own.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 7:35 am
kalm wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 6:45 am

In all seriousness, it really comes down to which one has the most pleasant hair to sniff, doesn’t it?
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houndawg wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 8:03 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:13 am

Is MN really in play? Isn't it a solid blue state? I mean if Biden needs Kloduchar to bolster MN, that's not a good sign.
He wouldn't be picking her to bolster MN, he's picking her for President. He has to be careful, he needs Berners and blacks to turn out in big numbers
Well, it looks like picking a white person from Minnesota is pretty much out of the question now. Klobuchar's chances have literally dropped to zero just overnight through no fault of her own.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 8:47 am
houndawg wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 8:03 pm

He wouldn't be picking her to bolster MN, he's picking her for President. He has to be careful, he needs Berners and blacks to turn out in big numbers
Well, it looks like picking a white person from Minnesota is pretty much out of the question now. Klobuchar's chances have literally dropped to zero just overnight through no fault of her own.
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I have been reading that Biden hopes to pick a VP by the first of August which seems a bit late to me. One would think that having two people on the campaign trail drumming up support early would help out more so than waiting till later.
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Winterborn wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 10:40 am I have been reading that Biden hopes to pick a VP by the first of August which seems a bit late to me. One would think that having two people on the campaign trail drumming up support early would help out more so than waiting till later.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 10:43 am
Winterborn wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 10:40 am I have been reading that Biden hopes to pick a VP by the first of August which seems a bit late to me. One would think that having two people on the campaign trail drumming up support early would help out more so than waiting till later.
:suspicious: Campaign Trail? What campaign trail?
They will be out campaigning. After all they are not like us common folk that the rules apply to. :coffee:
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Winterborn wrote:I have been reading that Biden hopes to pick a VP by the first of August which seems a bit late to me. One would think that having two people on the campaign trail drumming up support early would help out more so than waiting till later.
The first of August is when his basement remodel into 2 campaign spaces is scheduled to be completed. Until then there is no campaign trail for a VP candidate.


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