Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

[Skjellyfetti]

The Minnesotan regiments were probably given the looting and burning responsibilities en route to the sea

[BDKJMU]

Lol not even remotely close. What idiot in the government or media said that? Sherman had around 60k in his Army on his March through Georgia.

The mayor said the Minneapolis PD has 800. The entire MN State Police are less than 1k (and they can’t all be in MSP). The entire MN Nat Guard has apparently has 13.2k with 2.4k ‘activated ready to mobilize’.
https://kttc.com/2020/05/30/largest-dep ... a-history/

How many of Sherman's 60k were from Minnesota? That's the number they're talking about this force being larger than. Reading comprehension is essential.

Largest force in Minnesota history is being deployed today.

A much larger force of Minnesotians was deployed during the Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... _War_units
How many were with Sherman is irrelevant. At the time of Sherman's March to the Sea, that was just one of 3 major Union armies in the field (and smaller ones too), with Minnesotians serving in all of them.

More Minnesotians were deployed during World War I and II. Reading comprehension is essential.

[UNI88]

How many of Sherman's 60k were from Minnesota? That's the number they're talking about this force being larger than. Reading comprehension is essential.

Largest force in Minnesota history is being deployed today.

A much larger force of Minnesotians was deployed during the Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... _War_units
How many were with Sherman is irrelevant. At the time of Sherman's March to the Sea, that was just one of 3 major Union armies in the field (and smaller ones too), with Minnesotians serving in all of them.

More Minnesotians were deployed during World War I and II. Reading comprehension is essential.

Gil's post that you took issue with stated "Largest force in Minnesota history is being deployed today. Even larger than the group that marched thru Georgia with General Sherman." so he would appear to be talking about the number in a group together. How many Minnesotans were involved in total in the Civil War, WWI or WWII is irrelevant. How many were together in a single army is what matters relevant to Gil's post.

And more importantly, why do you get bent out of shape by others' hyperbole but are comfortable with Trump's continuous stream?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Jefferson

I know conservatives like to throw out this quote when they fantasize about overthrowing the fed, but in reality, it rarely applies to the complete take down of the US. Sometimes only a reminder is necessary.

I can't condone violence, but I can't blame the protestors for watering the tree either. It's a bit dry right now.

Water every single tree in this country.

I'm cool with it

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[Gil Dobie]

How many of Sherman's 60k were from Minnesota? That's the number they're talking about this force being larger than. Reading comprehension is essential.

Largest force in Minnesota history is being deployed today.

A much larger force of Minnesotians was deployed during the Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... _War_units
How many were with Sherman is irrelevant. At the time of Sherman's March to the Sea, that was just one of 3 major Union armies in the field (and smaller ones too), with Minnesotians serving in all of them.

More Minnesotians were deployed during World War I and II. Reading comprehension is essential.

The 4th Volunteer Infantry marched with Sherman. 2700 NG expected today with over 10,000 if needed.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Nothing says sticking it to da man like burning subsidized housing, small businesses (including a sports bar a black firefighter spent his life savings on), and stealing flat-screen TVs.

Eh, there will always be collateral in conflict. Happened during the Revolution, happened during the riots of 67, will happen here.

It doesn't divert from the overall point: people are angry, frustrated, poor, sick and tired of corruption in the US.

MLK:

As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action...They ask if our own nation wasn't using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today: my own government...

Wife beater....... No thanks

Hop back on the (rapist/racist) Biden wagon

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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

What happened last night? I was super busy with the first warm evening of the year, drinking Buffalo Trace, and watching the stars come out.

Just black people fighting for their rights in the Americas.

Ya know...the usual stuff for the 528 years since Columbus brought his slaves over.

Now it's 528 years? Ha ha ha ha


When do you think they will get over it if they haven't already? <- - - - - - RHETORICAL?

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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I've never come into contact with anyone from Antifa, and I'm probably as deep into left-wing networks as anyone here. I'm convinced there's no real organization to it, just small pockets who "fight" under a movement with undefined or loose goals.

It's definitely a fantastic boogeyman for the right though.

Thanks Goebbels!

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[Ivytalk]

Asshole protesters in Wilmington, DE, blocking I-95 in both directions. I was up there earlier today and missed all the excitement.

[Gil Dobie]

Peaceful protest today. After 8pm police and Natioal Guard start hunting anarchist and facist.

[AZGrizFan]

I've never come into contact with anyone from Antifa, and I'm probably as deep into left-wing networks as anyone here. I'm convinced there's no real organization to it, just small pockets who "fight" under a movement with undefined or loose goals.

It's definitely a fantastic boogeyman for the right though.

Thanks Goebbels!

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But hey, Alpha, he’s “convinced”, so we don’t need to worry anymore.

[houndawg]

In the past I would have been on the other side but at this point - I'm with you on it.

What's left to try to get something done? Republicans already despise non white christians. Police policies are created, largely, by that group. The enforcement of said policies are done largely by that group.

They get killed for running through neighborhoods and looking at houses under construction. Cops choke them to death while filmed with no repercussions. Black and Mexican reporters live on television are arrested while the white reporter across the street is ignored by police.

Silent protests do nothing.
Marching for change does nothing
Trying to get laws/policies changed does nothing

I don't condone burning businesses to the ground. I don't condone looting. HOWEVER, at this point? I fucking get it.

Obama was in office for 8 years and offered zero substantive ideas. The problem with any social justice person-minded person trying to mentally parse the issue is that you have to complain that police exams and the requirements are racist while also complaining cops are blockheads who need more rigorous training.

Body cams were a step in the right direction, but you could also probably looking at changing the rules of engagement and changing how officers are held accountable. What's definitely not going to do damn thing is to make it a racial issue and destroying businesses that have no control over policy.

[89Hen]

I'm probably as deep into left-wing networks as anyone here.

Nonsense. You're middle of the road here. Right kalm?

[houndawg]

What happened last night? I was super busy with the first warm evening of the year, drinking Buffalo Trace, and watching the stars come out.

MPD Chief said everybody arrested last night was from out of town. These riots have been a godsend for the cops.


Buffalo Trace!

Dogfish Head Beer, CA homegrown, and watching the fireflies come out here.......I think those blinky lights are fireflies

[houndawg]

Thanks Goebbels!

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But hey, Alpha, he’s “convinced”, so we don’t need to worry anymore.

The POlice have been using provocateurs at protests for as long as their have been protests.

[Baldy]

What happened last night? I was super busy with the first warm evening of the year, drinking Buffalo Trace, and watching the stars come out.

MPD Chief said everybody arrested last night was from out of town. These riots have been a godsend for the cops.

Oops....

Jail records show most arrested in Minneapolis riots have Minnesota addresses

MINNEAPOLIS (FOX 9) - The overwhelming majority of people arrested in connection with the Minneapolis unrest have Minnesota addresses, a search of the online Hennepin County Jail log shows.

Of the 45 people arrested for rioting, unlawful assembly, stolen property, burglary or robbery on May 29 and May 30 so far, 38 had Minnesota addresses, according to publicly available jail records reviewed by FOX 9.

Oh well, there goes that narrative.

[kalm]

I'm probably as deep into left-wing networks as anyone here.

Nonsense. You're middle of the road here. Right kalm?

When did I say he was middle of the road here?

[∞∞∞]

Nonsense. You're middle of the road here. Right kalm?

When did I say he was middle of the road here?

Nothing new here. It's not the first time cons see what they want to see.

You'd think a bunch of Constitutionalists would support Americans risking bodily harm and a deadly virus in order to send a message to the governments which continually murder them; it shows you the tree of liberty is alive and well.

But we know the reason they won't support it. Send out the troops...those people deserve it.

[mainejeff]

[AZGrizFan]

When did I say he was middle of the road here?

Nothing new here. It's not the first time cons see what they want to see.

You'd think a bunch of Constitutionalists would support Americans risking bodily harm and a deadly virus in order to send a message to the governments which continually murder them; it shows you the tree of liberty is alive and well.

But we know the reason they won't support it. Send out the troops...those people deserve it.

What message are they sending when they burn and loot their own fucking neighborhoods? That they’re fucking retarded?

Brilliant.

[Skjellyfetti]

Da Fuq?

[mainejeff]

Nothing new here. It's not the first time cons see what they want to see.

You'd think a bunch of Constitutionalists would support Americans risking bodily harm and a deadly virus in order to send a message to the governments which continually murder them; it shows you the tree of liberty is alive and well.

But we know the reason they won't support it. Send out the troops...those people deserve it.

What message are they sending when they burn and loot their own fucking neighborhoods? That they’re fucking retarded?

Brilliant.

What message has MAGA been sending for the last 3+ years?

[AZGrizFan]

What message are they sending when they burn and loot their own fucking neighborhoods? That they’re fucking retarded?

Brilliant.

What message has MAGA been sending for the last 3+ years?

Stay on topic.

[mainejeff]

What message has MAGA been sending for the last 3+ years?

Stay on topic.

I am on topic.

[AZGrizFan]

Stay on topic.

I am on topic.

Nope.