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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:00 pm
Ibanez wrote: I have no idea. I think it's kinda stupid to renounce white privilege. What will you gain? Anyone that will extend it to you doesn't know you have renounced it. Are you going to start every interaction with a disclaimer? It seems like a very hollow gesture.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:00 pm It seems a lot like vegans, gays and people who do cross fit

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:42 pm :roll:

Stolen from a friend on FB...

“If we have riots and unrest in every state, then how is ANTIFA managing to bus everyone in from out of state to protest? Can’t they just stay at their home protest?”
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kalm wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:33 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:42 pm :roll:

Stolen from a friend on FB...

“If we have riots and unrest in every state, then how is ANTIFA managing to bus everyone in from out of state to protest? Can’t they just stay at their home protest?”
Does antifa protest? I thought they were looting and rioting, giving peaceful protesters a bad name.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:52 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:33 pm

Stolen from a friend on FB...

“If we have riots and unrest in every state, then how is ANTIFA managing to bus everyone in from out of state to protest? Can’t they just stay at their home protest?”
Does antifa protest? I thought they were looting and rioting, giving peaceful protesters a bad name.
Oh yeah...that’s right. The mostly highly organized anarchist group around!
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Those damn skinheads!!!

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First terrorism charges coming from the protests? Boogaloos
Three Nevada men with ties to a loose movement of right-wing extremists advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government have been arrested on terrorism-related charges in what authorities say was a conspiracy to spark violence during recent protests in Las Vegas.
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In an extraordinary rebuke, former defense secretary Jim Mattis on Wednesday denounced President Donald Trump’s heavy-handed use of military force to quell protests and said his former boss was setting up a “false conflict” between the military and civilian society.

“I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled,” Mattis wrote.

The criticism was all the more remarkable because Mattis has generally kept a low profile since retiring as defense secretary in December 2018 to protest Trump’s Syria policy. He had declined to speak out against Trump, saying he owed the nation public silence while his former boss remained in office.

Mattis had a scathing description of Trump’s walk to a historic nearby church Monday to pose with a Bible after law enforcement forcibly cleared Lafayette Park of mostly peaceful protesters.

He said he never dreamed troops “would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens — much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.”

“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people —does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us,” Mattis wrote in a statement published by The Atlantic. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership.”

Mattis called on Americans to “unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.”

Mattis said of the protesters that Americans should not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. He said they are rightly demanding that the country follow the words of “Equal Justice Under Law” that are on display at the U.S. Supreme Court.

“The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values — our values as people and our values as a nation,” Mattis said.

Mattis took particular issue with the use of force to move back protesters so Trump could visit St. John’s Church the day after it was damaged by fire during protests.

“We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution,” Mattis said.
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:51 pm :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I just :lol: again as much as watching it earlier on here. I could picture that guy being Trip, Jelly, Jearf, Dback...
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:19 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:55 am

I can do that. What about the Leave It To Beaver and Full House collections? I'm not sure I can part with them.

Seriously, if someone or some institution is going to give me an advantage because of the color of my skin how do I force them not to?
I was pulled over last year. I didn't have proof of insurance and the cop said, " You're good. I'm sure you have it" and let me off with a warning.

I'm positive if I weren't a white man, there would've been a different ending. I recognize that I probably got preferential treatment b/c I'm white. I'm not going to apologize for it. Nor am I going to go into every interaction thinking, " how am I benefiting from this based on my race?".
I’ve watched several seasons of Live PD, mostly red state departments, and have seen lots of people on traffic stops, including blacks, get off with warnings, or not getting a ticket for every violation (esp those who were somewhat respectful).
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:48 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:19 am

I was pulled over last year. I didn't have proof of insurance and the cop said, " You're good. I'm sure you have it" and let me off with a warning.

I'm positive if I weren't a white man, there would've been a different ending. I recognize that I probably got preferential treatment b/c I'm white. I'm not going to apologize for it. Nor am I going to go into every interaction thinking, " how am I benefiting from this based on my race?".
I’ve watched several seasons of Live PD, mostly red state departments, and have seen lots of people on traffic stops, including blacks, get off with warnings, or not getting a ticket for every violation (esp those who were somewhat respectful).
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Skjellyfetti wrote:First terrorism charges coming from the protests? Boogaloos
Three Nevada men with ties to a loose movement of right-wing extremists advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government have been arrested on terrorism-related charges in what authorities say was a conspiracy to spark violence during recent protests in Las Vegas.
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Chizzang wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:58 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:48 pm
I’ve watched several seasons of Live PD, mostly red state departments, and have seen lots of people on traffic stops, including blacks, get off with warnings, or not getting a ticket for every violation (esp those who were somewhat respectful).
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm
Chizzang wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:58 pm

Oh thank god... everything is fixed now - everybody is now equal

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Why are you being even more obtuse and annoying than usual? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
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WTF. Absolute pandemonium!! Light em up!!

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:13 pm WTF. Absolute pandemonium!! Light em up!!

To quote Chizzy: “Oh thank god, everything is fixed now.” We can all go home.
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Chizzang wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:10 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm

Why are you being even more obtuse and annoying than usual? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
I'm entertaining myself

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Understatement of the year, right there. :lol:
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The other 3 officers were charged:
The three former officers, Tou Thao, Thomas Lane and J. Alexander Kueng, were charged with aiding and abetting murder, according to criminal complaints filed by the state of Minnesota. The murder charge against the fourth, Derek Chauvin, was also elevated to second-degree, from third-degree.
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My question is, how are you going to find 12 person juries in Minnesota who aren’t aware of the case, much less haven’t formed opinions on it?
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:33 pm The other 3 officers were charged:
The three former officers, Tou Thao, Thomas Lane and J. Alexander Kueng, were charged with aiding and abetting murder, according to criminal complaints filed by the state of Minnesota. The murder charge against the fourth, Derek Chauvin, was also elevated to second-degree, from third-degree.
https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/3-more-m ... 41628.html

My question is, how are you going to find 12 person juries in Minnesota who aren’t aware of the case, much less haven’t formed opinions on it?
That could be said about any high profile case. They’ll have the same problem in Georgia....but they’ll seat juries anyway.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm
Chizzang wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:58 pm
Oh thank god... everything is fixed now - everybody is now equal

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Why are you being even more obtuse and annoying than usual? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:58 pm
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